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Fox News Host Suggests “We Have a Coup on Our Hands in America”

bubbabgone said:
You're confused.

You're thinking of a right-wing newspaper hiring FUSION to do oppo research on Trump and others but that ended by June 2016.
The cool stuff came from Steele using Russian sources to create the dossier after that.
Steele's firm was hired by FUSION who was hired by the Clinton campaign's law firm to create the dossier ... it used Russian sources.
Christopher Steele had been ex-MI6 for years by the time he birthed the dossier for FUSION/Democrat Party.

FUSION has quite a ubiquitous presence in DC politics.
- The wife of one FBI agent who was involved with Mueller's team works for FUSION.
- It's been speculated that the phony stuff from the dossier might have been used by the FBI to get FISA warrants.
The peculiar activities of some on Mueller's team (who have been reassigned) make that seem possible.
- Remember that Russian lawyer babe, Natalia Veselnitskaya? The one who had the meeting with Junior to feed him dirt on Hillary but had nothing to deliver?
Well, FUSION worked on something that involved her and one of FUSION's co-founders met with her before and after Junior's meeting.
It looks like her real purpose for the meeting had nothing to do with dirt on Hillary but rather to influence a Law Russia wanted changed that FUSION was helping with.
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And you got all this information from.....?

I’d especially love to know how you know exactly when the Russian stuff was added to the dossier.
 
slick said:
So this Steve Schmidt is now a favorite of the Trump opposition. You call him a republican strategist, if he were that I doubt
he'd be an MSNBC commentator. The guy is constantly on with Maddow, O'Donnell & the newest to be reported sexual harasser
Matthews for one reason to bash Republicans. And you post he's a 'smart man' who didn't even graduate from college.

Schmidt headed the John McCain effort in 2008 & he wasn't very brilliant in that capacity as McCain had the lowest
electoral count of any republican candidate who never became president in 54, yes 54 years. As chief campaign strategist
he joined up with another MSNBC anchor Nicole Wallace in that disastrous campaign. MSNBC seems to be the requiem for
formerly failed republican mouthpieces and strategists. Smith & Wallace were heavy into the failed Bush & McCain decade,
& when the republicans finally found a winning candidate who thoroughly toyed with Jeb Bush in the primary & made his opinions
of McCain well known in a rather obnoxious not politically correct way these losers become incensed with Trump for dissing their
former employers. What else would you expect. Look don't refer to the likes of Schmidt or Wallace as republicans
anymore & you can add Anna Navarro of CNN to that list of so-called
Republicans who because Trump's heavy beat down of her preferred candidates 'Low Energy Jeb"
& 'Little Marco' has with her absolute scorn for Trump commentated like she is seeking the title of ' The worlds most hysterical women'
on Cable.

Just Say 'Yes' to Prosperity, Trump seems to be doing just fine! I'm sure Schmidt's commentary bothers Trump
about as much as an annoying fly bothers an elephant.
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Bolded is mine.

I feel that those in bold are more "Republican" than people these days who are excusing sexual predators and child molesters.

Sorry, slick. Your party is toast. When the dust settles, it will be divided, and Navarro, Wallace, Schmidt and others will be on one side, and you guys will be on the other.

Not sure who will retain the party name. They'll probably give it to your side. :lol: Probably don't want to be stained with that moniker any longer.
 
Dittohead not! said:
The dossier is simply an investigation. It didn't manufacture the Russian interference.
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The dossier has been used as the foundation for the Trump/Russia collusion charge.
But the story surrounding the creation of the dossier is evidence of real collusion ... if any exists.
 
bubbabgone said:
FUSION has quite a ubiquitous presence in DC politics.- The wife of one FBI agent .....
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More concerned about FUSION than about the actual NSA, CIA, FBI, and now FBI investigation into Russian meddling in the U.S. election that is a matter of fact and you know, of some national importance and relevance? Mind-boggling. How many posts do you have championing the *actual* investigation vs attacking it/Hillary, etc. at the same time? I bet I know.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Yes, Trump's actions to undermine the security of the United States via his cronies are truly disturbing, as is the brainless acceptance of the anti military, anti police, anti American agenda his followers have shown.
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:roll:

Your TDS motivated rant is irrelevent to my comments, the Op and everything else for that matter
 
Dittohead not! said:
The dossier is simply an investigation. It didn't manufacture the Russian interference.
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The dossier was a list of unverified anti-Trump allegations authored by Christopher Steele and funded by the DNC and the Hillary campaign

It was the basis for the first Russia Trump imvestigation and it was used to obtain FISA warrants to conduct covert surveillance on Trump and his campaign prior to the election


CNN from April....

FBI used Dossier to bolster Russia investigation and obtain FISA warrants
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...-donald-trump-russia-investigation/index.DONT

Also, Bruce Ohr who was assitant deputy AG under Obama was demoted for his contacts with Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS

Now if you DONT think thats a big deal just consider whether or not the Obama DOJ would have given the same type of consideration to a GOP funded anti- Hillary dossier ?

And if the dossier was legitimate intel, why was Bruce Ohr and Peter Sztrok demoted ?
Why are both under a current IG investigation ?
 
tres borrachos said:
I didn't "parrot your points". I pointed out the sheer ignorance of your post.

Who the hell is "Smith"?

And Schmidt's entry into politics was getting heavily involved in Bill Bradley's campaign? Steve Schmidt was born in 1970 and he handed out brochures for Bill Bradley's 1978 Senatorial campaign - when he was 8 years old. and living in New Jersey. How heavily involved do you think he was at 8 years old?

Every post you make shows me more and more why Trump loves the uneducated so much.
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Hey I meant Schmidt not Smith a uncharacteristic mistake. Now, now Tre no need to get hoping' mad although I think it's
hilarious that one praises the likes of Schmidt for his flawed comments. Does he now rise to the ranks of Flake, Bill Crystal or
George Will as useful uniparty faithful dinosaurs whose views are established firmly in the failed neocon Bush branch of the
party.

BTW, when I was the same age as Schmidt was when he was a Bradley Democrat I was entranced in the 52 primary between
Ike & Bob Taft. It was the best primary fight ever, in school most of the kids were chanting L/S/M/F/T the slogan of Lucky Strike
cigarettes constantly on TV which meant 'Lucky Strikes mean fine tobacco', but those for Ike picked it up and changed it to
'Lord Save Me From Taft' although everybody loved Ike when we had a ballot on who we preferred in class I think I was one of only about
3 or 4 who voted for Taft. He was dubbed at the time as 'Mr. Conservative.' I've never changed & I doubt Schmidt's mind hasn't
changed from his Bradley moderate Democratic leanings.
 
Superfly said:
I honestly love any Republican who stands up to what is happening. Show they have the stones to choose country over party. Don't see a lot of that as of late.
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:roll:

You really have no idea whats happening

" Whats happening " is that the Obama DOJ conspired with the Hillary campaign, the DNC, Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele to conduct anti-Trump opposition research ( dossier ) that was then used to obtain FISA warrants to unmask and conduct covert surveillance of Trump and is campaign staff prior to a Presential election

Here, CNN reported on this back in April..

FBI used dossier to bolster Russia investigation and obtain FISA warrants...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...-donald-trump-russia-investigation/index.html

Bruce Ohr was the assistant deputy AG under Obama and was demoted for his contacts with Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson...
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...n-gps-to-testify-before-senate-intel.amp.html
 
Dittohead not! said:
It is a fact that a hostile foreign power at least tried to influence our election.
The president of the United States does not want the FBI to investigate that influence.

Why?

Russia meddling in our national elections is a threat to democracy, pure and simple, and must be stopped. One must ask why the winner of the last election is so adamantly opposed to the FBI doing their job.
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Do you mean Chile tried to influence our election as revenge for our assassination of Allende?
 
Superfly said:
Bolded is mine.

I feel that those in bold are more "Republican" than people these days who are excusing sexual predators and child molesters.

Sorry, slick. Your party is toast. When the dust settles, it will be divided, and Navarro, Wallace, Schmidt and others will be on one side, and you guys will be on the other.

Not sure who will retain the party name. They'll probably give it to your side. :lol: Probably don't want to be stained with that moniker any longer.
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On the whole a reasonable analysis.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Do you mean Chile tried to influence our election as revenge for our assassination of Allende?
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The facts:


Salvador Allende, President of Chile, died of self-inflicted gunshot wounds on September 11, 1973 during a coup d'état led by the Chilean Army Commander-in-Chief Augusto Pinochet. After decades of suspicions that Allende might have been assassinated by the Chilean Armed Forces, a Chilean court in May 2011 authorized the exhumation and autopsy of Allende's remains. A team of international experts examined the remains and concluded that the former president had shot himself with an AK-47 assault rifle.[1]
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But sure, it's really the Chilean investigation, and that's what got Comey fired, investigating Chile. Sure, that's it.
 
slick said:
So this Steve Schmidt is now a favorite of the Trump opposition. You call him a republican strategist, if he were that I doubt
he'd be an MSNBC commentator. The guy is constantly on with Maddow, O'Donnell & the newest to be reported sexual harasser
Matthews for one reason to bash Republicans. And you post he's a 'smart man' who didn't even graduate from college.

Schmidt headed the John McCain effort in 2008 & he wasn't very brilliant in that capacity as McCain had the lowest
electoral count of any republican candidate who never became president in 54, yes 54 years. As chief campaign strategist
he joined up with another MSNBC anchor Nicole Wallace in that disastrous campaign. MSNBC seems to be the requiem for
formerly failed republican mouthpieces and strategists. Smith & Wallace were heavy into the failed Bush & McCain decade,
& when the republicans finally found a winning candidate who thoroughly toyed with Jeb Bush in the primary & made his opinions
of McCain well known in a rather obnoxious not politically correct way these losers become incensed with Trump for dissing their
former employers. What else would you expect. Look don't refer to the likes of Schmidt or Wallace as republicans
anymore & you can add Anna Navarro of CNN to that list of so-called
Republicans who because Trump's heavy beat down of her preferred candidates 'Low Energy Jeb"
& 'Little Marco' has with her absolute scorn for Trump commentated like she is seeking the title of ' The worlds most hysterical women'
on Cable.

Just Say 'Yes' to Prosperity, Trump seems to be doing just fine! I'm sure Schmidt's commentary bothers Trump
about as much as an annoying fly bothers an elephant.
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He criticized the God-Emperor, he's not a real Republican!
 
Very disappointing that a civil servant is spouting this type of BS.
 
Fenton said:
:roll:

You really have no idea whats happening

" Whats happening " is that the Obama DOJ conspired with the Hillary campaign, the DNC, Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele to conduct anti-Trump opposition research ( dossier ) that was then used to obtain FISA warrants to unmask and conduct covert surveillance of Trump and is campaign staff prior to a Presential election

Here, CNN reported on this back in April..

FBI used dossier to bolster Russia investigation and obtain FISA warrants...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...-donald-trump-russia-investigation/index.html
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So... a dossier was released that said, basically, that Trump and Co., along with Russian counterparts, tried to steal the election, by hook or by crook. I mean, that's not all the dossier says :lol: but the part we need to discuss is that Russia infiltrated our election, with the Trump campaign's help. So... the FBI gets this information, and you are surprised that they want to investigate further? That's your issue? Evidence uncovered by investigations are allowed to be used by said investigators. I have said this many times on here, but you guys keep denying it.

Bruce Ohr was the assistant deputy AG under Obama and was demoted for his contacts with Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson...
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...n-gps-to-testify-before-senate-intel.amp.html
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I will read nothing from Fox News, as it has turned into nothing more than propaganda. If you can find this information from a reputable website, I'll be glad to take the time to read it. Otherwise...
 
Mach said:
More concerned about FUSION than about the actual NSA, CIA, FBI, and now FBI investigation into Russian meddling in the U.S. election that is a matter of fact and you know, of some national importance and relevance? Mind-boggling. How many posts do you have championing the *actual* investigation vs attacking it/Hillary, etc. at the same time? I bet I know.
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You must be kidding.
I'm all for an investigation into how Russia meddled in our election.
The difference between me, and I presume you, is that it has now been shown how the meddling was accomplished and who was involved, but you sound like you might be a year behind the disclosures.
 
bubbabgone said:
You must be kidding.
I'm all for an investigation into how Russia meddled in our election.
The difference between me, and I presume you, is that it has now been shown how the meddling was accomplished and who was involved, but you sound like you might be a year behind the disclosures.
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LOL. How can anyone have missed the ****-show charade of obvious attacks of the Mueller investigation the past year, it's been a source of comedy and tears for the past year, not just on DP and the news, but all the comedy shows too.

It's been shown how Russia colluded already? The investigation is over!?! Mueller's done!? Holy ****! You guys went from denying Russian meddling, to "can't prove it", and now you say it's proven!? And the investigation is just heating up?

Oh my.
 
Fenton said:
:roll:

Your TDS motivated rant is irrelevent to my comments, the Op and everything else for that matter
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Everything I have said is based on the words and deeds of Trump and his supporters, or did you forgot, among others, his attacks on POWs?
 
Superfly said:
I will read nothing from Fox News, as it has turned into nothing more than propaganda. If you can find this information from a reputable website, I'll be glad to take the time to read it. Otherwise...
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LMMFAO... You will do anything to avoid the facts, won't you? Fox News is as credible as any other news network on cable or TV.

Since you asked though, here's stories about it from NBC News, Newsweek and more:

FBI and Justice Department Officials Might be Probed for Alleged Anti-Trump Bias
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/12/tru...tigate-the-department-of-justice-and-fbi.html
Trump's lawyer wants a special counsel to investigate DOJ official with Fusion GPS ties - CNNPolitics
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...flicts-require-second-special-counsel-n828686

Please take note that in each of those articles, Fox News is given credit for breaking the story.

.
 
Grim17 said:
LMMFAO... You will do anything to avoid the facts, won't you? Fox News is as credible as any other news network on cable or TV.

Since you asked though, here's stories about it from NBC News, Newsweek and more:

FBI and Justice Department Officials Might be Probed for Alleged Anti-Trump Bias
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/12/tru...tigate-the-department-of-justice-and-fbi.html
Trump's lawyer wants a special counsel to investigate DOJ official with Fusion GPS ties - CNNPolitics
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...flicts-require-second-special-counsel-n828686

Please take note that in each of those articles, Fox News is given credit for breaking the story.

.
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:lol:

What do each of these links have in common?

Link #1:

A member of President Donald Trump's legal team said Tuesday that it's time to create a second special counsel to start investigating the FBI and Department of Justice.

Link #2:

Trump lawyer calls for new special counsel to investigate the Department of Justice and FBI

Link #3:

Trump's lawyer wants a special counsel to investigate DOJ official with Fusion GPS ties

Link #4:

Trump attorney says FBI, DOJ ‘conflicts’ require second special counsel
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So, you give me four links that all say that Trump's lawyers are saying that they need a special prosecutor to investigate the special prosecutor. :lol:

Those same lawyers who are trying to discredit Mueller?

I'd ask if you were serious, but clearly, you are.
 
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