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Zimmerman Defense Motion To Unseal Settlement Details: Claim TM Parents Biased

Paperview said:
Has the trial happened yet and no one told us about it?

Seems like it, the way some people are carrying on about the alleged murderer's actions they are certain the alleged murderer told the truth about.
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The person who attempted to murder another is dead.
 
sharon said:
Its not in the case file....
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allow me to use YOUR post to expose YOUR lie
sharon said:
The HOA was liable because of George.



Read about it here:

Trayvon Martin's parents settle with Fla. HOA

Under the terms of the settlement, Trayvon Martin's parents and his estate agreed to set aside their wrongful-death claim and claims for pain and suffering, loss of earnings and expenses, the Sentinel reported.

According to a cover page attached to the settlement that was placed in Zimmerman's criminal case file, copies of the settlement were given Thursday to Zimmerman's attorney, as well as to the prosecutor and the judge, the newspaper reported.

Crump has previously said he intends to file suit later against Zimmerman, and the settlement specified that Zimmerman was not part of the homeowner association's deal.
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sharon said:
There have been several threads on the HOA liability over the past 10 months. The endorsed Zimmerman for their NW program.. they should have kept both at arm's length or at least called their attorney.

George was NOT supposed to carry a gun ..... He killed an innocent, unarmed teen who was a guest..

If they had gone to a civil trial it might have cost them 2 million plus a half million in legal fees.. plus damages for pain, suffering, etc.

Their lawyers and insurance carrier advised to to settle without admitting guilt. So they did. Nobody wants to be tangled up with George... and the HOA won't makes that mistake again. George was NOT a member of the HOA.. Just a renter.. so his liability in wrongful death is separate.
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Another non answer.
So let me ask one more time, "As a parent, would you not want the HOA found guilty rather than settle out of court with no decision other than you got some dollars?

Simple yes or no (with an explanation) will do.

My point stands, it less about guilt and more about money.
 
mike2810 said:
Another non answer.
So let me ask one more time, "As a parent, would you not want the HOA found guilty rather than settle out of court with no decision other than you got some dollars?

Simple yes or no (with an explanation) will do.

My point stands, it less about guilt and more about money.
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Why? Do you understand that the HOA was NOT found guilty? Why do you think they carry liability insurance? Why does anyone????
 
sharon said:
Why? Do you understand that the HOA was NOT found guilty? Why do you think they carry liability insurance? Why does anyone????
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Legally, the HOA admitted no guilt.

Sharon. If you have not gotten it. My line of questioning is not about the HOA action in settling out of court but TM parents actions in taken the money without a judgement.

Clear enough for you.
 
mike2810 said:
Legally, the HOA admitted no guilt.

Sharon. If you have not gotten it. My line of questioning is not about the HOA action in settling out of court but TM parents actions in taken the money without a judgement.

Clear enough for you.
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You don't understand the law or the issue.

Why don't you go to google and read up on HOA law?
 
JackFrost said:
I knew this would come. It has backfired for the defense. They are playing with fire, and will be burned as a result.
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OMara certainly is a strange one.......... I thought he went into this for fame and fortune.... to become a household name.
 
JackFrost said:
I knew this would come. It has backfired for the defense. They are playing with fire, and will be burned as a result.
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what backfire was experienced? i missed it
 
sharon said:
You don't understand the law or the issue.

Why don't you go to google and read up on HOA law?
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What does that have to do with the question.
Your failure to answer leads me to believe you would take the money like the TM family has done rather than have a court find someone guilty.
Got it.
 
mike2810 said:
What does that have to do with the question.
Your failure to answer leads me to believe you would take the money like the TM family has done rather than have a court find someone guilty.
Got it.
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Do you understand a wrongful death civil suit? You don't punish people.... you take their MONEY. Proving the HOA guilty would be meaningless.

I know its confusing.. and I am not explaining it well.. but OMara and West are making a mess. OMara is a general practitioner.. NOT a criminal defense lawyer.. He's out of his depth.

George is NOT part of the HOA settlement.. He will be sued separately... after his trial.. guilty or not.
 
sharon said:
Do you understand a wrongful death civil suit? You don't punish people.... you take their MONEY. Proving the HOA guilty would be meaningless.

I know its confusing.. and I am not explaining it well.. but OMara and West are making a mess. OMara is a general practitioner.. NOT a criminal defense lawyer.. He's out of his depth.

George is NOT part of the HOA settlement.. He will be sued separately... after his trial.. guilty or not.
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if you say so Sharon, if you say so.

I under stand wrongful death civil suits. So you just admited the family was out for money and it is meaningless to find the HOA guilty. In the end the reason the HOA and insurance settled is it was cheaper than to have it drag out though the courts.

Thanks for proving my point the family only wanted money.

Bet the TM family lawyer is just laughing all the way to the bank, easy money on his part.
 
mike2810 said:
if you say so Sharon, if you say so.

I under stand wrongful death civil suits. So you just admited the family was out for money and it is meaningless to find the HOA guilty. In the end the reason the HOA and insurance settled is it was cheaper than to have it drag out though the courts.

Thanks for proving my point the family only wanted money.
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There is NOTHING wrong with taking the money.. If my child had been killed under such circumstances.. I would sue the pants off them. NOT because the money will bring back a child but because sticking it to them in the pocketbook will make them more careful.

If you slip and fall on wet lettuce in the grocery store.. YOU SUE.

If an automaker puts out a dangerous car or a doctor doesn't follow highest and best practice and causes harm.. YOU SUE.. That's the remedy in our society..
 
sharon said:
There is NOTHING wrong with taking the money.. If my child had been killed under such circumstances.. I would sue the pants off them. NOT because the money will bring back a child but because sticking it to them in the pocketbook will make them more careful.

If you slip and fall on wet lettuce in the grocery store.. YOU SUE.

If an automaker puts out a dangerous car or a doctor doesn't follow highest and best practice and causes harm.. YOU SUE.. That's the remedy in our society..
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I figured that was your attitude.
Welcome to the United States of Litigation.
Justice can go by the wayside. Sue, Sue, Sue.:mrgreen:
 
mike2810 said:
I figured that was your attitude.
Welcome to the United States of Litigation.
Justice can go by the wayside. Sue, Sue, Sue.:mrgreen:
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I think you are very naive...

If someone was responsible for killing your child thru negligence.. would you slink away?

Money is not much... but after the death of my brother the family was able to fund a full ride scholarship to one of the top engineering schools in the country in his name .... in perpetuity.

So you let someone hurt your family and take away your loved one.. and walk away concerned about what you call greed.

If liability were NOT an issue.. buildings would be collapsing and planes would be crashing because there would be NO incentive to respect human life and take reasonable precautions.

Now quit dogging me.. I am over your "righteousness"..........
 
Sharon.
No I would not slink away. I would wait until the criminal trial is done. I would not settle out of court. I would want to ensure the party is guilty. (We disagree on the gullty/liablity of the HOA). Nothing was resolved, other than the lawyer and the family got money from the HOA.
 
mike2810 said:
Sharon.
No I would not slink away. I would wait until the criminal trial is done. I would not settle out of court. I would want to ensure the party is guilty. (We disagree on the gullty/liablity of the HOA). Nothing was resolved, other than the lawyer and the family got money from the HOA.
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Put your money where your mouth is and prove it bruh:lol:
 
sharon said:
There is NOTHING wrong with taking the money..
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Yes there is sharon.
They are totally motivated by greed.

There is no question that they know that the voice screaming is Zimmerman's as it doesn't even sound like Trayvon.
Yet they perpetuate that false narrative to receive ill-gotten gains.



sharon said:
If my child had been killed under such circumstances.. I would sue the pants off them.
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The problem here is that those circumstance do not exist. It is a fabrication that they know is a fabrication.



sharon said:
If you slip and fall on wet lettuce in the grocery store.. YOU SUE.
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No sharon you do not.
You thinking it is ok just to do so, is a problem.



But in this case at hand mike2810 is correct in what he said in the following.
mike2810 said:
I would not settle out of court. I would want to ensure the party is guilty. (We disagree on the gullty/liablity of the HOA). Nothing was resolved, other than the lawyer and the family got money from the HOA.
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It was clearly nothing but the greed of Trayvon's parents.
 
JackFrost said:
Put your money where your mouth is and prove it bruh:lol:
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What a stupid statement JF.
How can I prove it broh my kid is still alive?

So quit being a jerk :mrgreen:
 
mike2810 said:
What a stupid statement JF.
How can I prove it broh my kid is still alive?

So quit being a jerk :mrgreen:
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Exactly:lol:

So easy to type some words on the internet. "I would do it this way", "I would instead do it like this".

It's game time bruh. Back up your mouth:lol:
 
sharon said:
Even if George is acquitted, he can and will be sued civilly. The Liability carrier for the HOA and the mgmt company decided to settle. George was NOT a homeowner.
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The "Stand Your Ground" and "Castle Doctrine" laws were originally intended to prevent just that. It was felt that no one should be faced with financial ruin for justifiably defending themselves. If he is found not guilty under "Stand Your Ground", he cannot be held civilly liable here in Florida.
 
sharon said:
George was NOT a police officer. He was NOT supposed to follow anyone.. He is just too stupid to follow NW protocols.
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Regardless of what GZ was supposed to do, the moment he was struck and knocked to the ground, that all became irrelevant. At what point during the attack was he supposed to assume TM was not going to kill him? Was he supposed to evaluate each and every blow in order to determine the attackers intent? Really? No one has the right to strike someone, knock them to the ground and then begin beating them. TM is the one who should have waited for the police.
 
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