Psst...those first two knives are made for killing and/or defense. Not cutting up cow.
Yet they can be used for both, unlike a gun that has only one use. Oh, and they are not made for killing people, they are made to look cool which is why most people wouldn't ever use them to do real utility work. That doesn't mean they can't, it just means they will use their non pretty knife to actually do something with. Do you get tired of being wrong all the time, or do you just get angry about it? Oh wait, don't let me say you are wrong, let me prove it to you with a question. Why can't you cut cow with those knives?
But not all speech is useful and can be very harmful. How about we ban that? Do you believe in limiting what a person can say? Going by your anti-gun propaganda and if you don't want to be hypocritical then you would have to say yes.
Actually, no going by the gun propaganda when you cannot make a point that supports your argument you change the subject and do something stupid. I can talk at you all day long and you won't die from it. unless I can shoot in Morse Code I pretty much cannot communicate with a gun. Sorry, but guns are not speech no matter how much you wish they were so your argument wasn't crap.
In which case I'm sure that you would love to ban that part of speech huh?
You wish i did because you are trying to put words in my mouth. That is because you cannot argue with what i am saying. i don't get tired of being right.
They also use knives in wars.
yeah, even soldiers have to cut things.
Utility is irrelevent. You're talking about people not NEEDING guns. You don't NEED a car. You have two feet to get where you need to go and hands to carry things with.
no, it is the reason we do not ban other things while we do ban guns. You can keep pretending a gun is like all these other things, but simply guns do not have any other purpose aside from shooting things. Your argument is still crap no matter how many times you repeat it. You don't need a gun to survive, but many people would find themselves in deep trouble if they did not have transportation.
No actually you don't. Use a sharp rock to get the skin off and use a fire pit to cook.
A sharp rock which is pretty much an unrefined knife? Like I said your gun simply won't do the job. But if you want to eat your food with rocks go ahead.
You're arguement was about "need". You need none of those things. You just want those things because it makes your life easier. You should understand the difference between "need" and "want". You NEED air to survive. You don't NEED a car.
No my argument is about utility and use. You dragged it down the road of need. What is worse you dragged it down a road that doesn't even help your argument.
Do you understand the difference between a pocket knife or kitchen knife and the knives that I showed you? Obviously not. Two of those knives are designed for killing. The other is designed for skinning and since you said we don't NEED to hunt then that (and those others), by your own logic, should be banned.
You see, you need to leave the logic to those that are not a train wreck. Those knives can all be used for other purposes. You do not have to use the knife only for it's intended purpose. Unlike a gun which becomes pretty pointless when you are not shooting things. Please do explain why you cannot use those knives for the purposes they are not optimized for. I remember years ago a guy cut his own leg off to get himself free of a tree with a pocket knife. I am pretty sure they do not make pocket knives for cutting your leg off. I am alsop pretty sure if he had a gun the best he could have done in that case was to give himself a painless death which he avoided because he had a knife.
Can you tell the future? Are you some sort of psychic? Having a gun for self defense isn't about killing. It is about survival. And it matters not how often one has used it. But last I heard the amount of people in the US that have used a gun for self defense far outweighs how many people have been killed with one.
Ok, how many times have you used your gun to survive? yeah, the argument fails even when you drop the self defense rhetoric and swap to survival. I can tell you right now if it is about survival and you have a choice between a gun and a knife you take the knife, or you die much quicker. if it is really down to that point that survival is your goal, a knife can do so much more. Not to mention you cannot run out of bullets with a knife. Once you have no more bullets, like in the case of an actual survival scenario, your gun doesn't do anything else. It is a big awkward rock at that point. How do you make your arguments worse?
If you had actually been there and didn't use a gun then you would be dead. There were only two outcomes in my question. Death. Or using the gun to save your life. Try again.
Sorry, but I was there, and no i am not dead. Quite to your dismay. Then again i guess i seem to be able to figure out how to survive a lot better than you can. I am not the guy who is going to shoot an animal, then cook it whole over a campfire that would be easier to make if you has an object that could cut, and get the meat off the bones with a sharp rock. When i say it again like that it gives me a good chuckle. if there is ever an apocalypse you totally have to live next to me.
Funny how you went from "a gun is meant for killing people" to "an object that is only meant to shoot things and do nothing else". Are you conceding that there are other uses for guns other than killing people (your original arguement)?
People keep bringing up playing with their guns as something useful. yes, you can shoot a target, I am just not sure how it as useful as cutting things, but I figured i would give you that point as crappy as it was. unfortunately even in the land of playing a gun is not nearly as versatile as a ball. Let me try to explain this. You spend a thousand dollars on a gun and then you have to buy the bullets. Then you can go out and shoot targets for fun and in your imaginary world perhaps protect yourself someday, oh and shoot a deer you will have to eat whole. I could take that couple of grand for bullets and a gun and buy every ball walmart has, a set of steak knives, and enough food for a picnic and still have money left over. You can have your fake penis, I will take the balls, a party, and a bunch of knives. I am going to have more fun than you, and I am going to survive better.
I will give you one point. i am pretty sure in 2 decades on the internet i have never been countered with use sharp rocks to cut your food. i am going to be giggling about that one for days.