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Women raising kids without a husband in the house.
OK, now present the statistics that show single moms live shorter lives.
Women raising kids without a husband in the house.
The first article clearly states that women trade of career work hours for household/caregiving work hours. This is not the argument that was being made.
The second argument makes the point that women who do traditionally male oriented jobs do less housework. Again, this is a trade off argument when the original argument was an addition argument.
And all still state that women still do more than men. It isn't too hard to see if you are actually doing it. Even when I work while my husband is off, much of the housework is left up to me.
If you don't believe that women do more housework than men, disproportionate to how much each work in outside jobs, then you prove otherwise. I know what I am saying is true, despite you constantly trying to nitpick that it isn't.
Tell you what, I'll stay home and you buy me nice things.
Baby, if you do all the housekeeping for the rest of our lives, I'll buy you the Moon.
What?.....What does that have to do with the current topic? Oh! It was a sad attempt at being inflammatory.Really, because they are fat? Not because they aren't religious? I dunno seems like a fishy answer to me, didn't Noah live to be like 900? Its right there in the Bible.
Switzerland or Virginia?
Both.
In which case they have to go through a court anyways and they get half as well as court mandated child support payments. Divorced women raising their kids isn't 0.1% of the problem we are referring to here.
OK, now present the statistics that show single moms live shorter lives.
First, I do not remember making that statement. I simply said that women having to both work and raise children and do the household chores is taking a toll on them.
Second, since the social development of the modern single mother is a recent one, we do not yet have reliable statistics over any suitable length of time to make that firm determination. But them, you probably knew that which is why you also probably asked a question that you knew did not have the evidence you requested.
Like it's women's fault that so many men are immature, so do not take any responsibility for their fatherhood?
Short answer... They're not.LowDown said:Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?
Word. My grand-aunt is 102 years old and is but a shadow of the formidable woman she used to be. Stuck in a wheelchair, almost totally deaf, she spends most of her days staring out into space and drooling. It's sad...
Well in all fairness if the kid is under-aged, Hell yes, it should be the responsibility of the parents of the daughter and the parents of the under-aged sperm donor. And if the sperm donor is legally an adult then we have a whole new set of circumstances .Where her parents left off?
What - if my daughter is pregnant I'm supposed to support her and the child?
I think any mother with half a heart feels the same.I WILL - but that's because, when I was in that same position, my parent's DIDN'T. If a kid is so stupid that they are in that type of situation then they are not capable of being on their own. The kid (child) will only suffer.
Oh I am all for encouraging wise decision making but due to the state of our society too many no longer believe in personal responsibility so that pretty well nixes that one.It's not a requirement, though . . . what we really should do is encourage wise decision making, improved values of self worth, reducing risky behaviors, and other such things that create the situation to begin with.
Instead, when you suggest to people that we should start to push against promiscuous sex, etc, they get defensive. They'll argue that "sex is natural and we shouldn't discourage it, because that won't work anyway, they'll do what they want."
Well, it might not have worked for me, but it worked for my sisters.
But I'd rather such mothers be on government assistance than in a **** marriage. That's what happened to me and it was hell to escape from.
really?!?!!? You simply dismiss the impact of divorce on women and children!?!?!?!? :shock::doh what is the problem that "we" are referring to here?
YOu made that point as an explanation why the women's life expectancy if decreasing. In context it very much sounds like you were making the point that single moms live shorter lives.
Are you serious? There have been a whole passel of single mothers following every America war, and birth out of wedlock is as old as history. There is easily enough examples of single motherhood since WWII to do the proper statistics.
Feel free to present verifiable evidence on both your allegations and claims. And that includes my previous posts which you apparently feel free to interpret and characterize but are fairly powerless to quote.
And then tell us how the role of the American woman and mother has not changed drastically since the last world war that you referred to. I would love to see that information.
What?.....What does that have to do with the current topic? Oh! It was a sad attempt at being inflammatory.
:failpail:
You have asked me to prove a negative. You are the one who made the positive claim, you are supposed to verify it. Since you refuse to we can accept that your claim is gratuitous and can be refuted with an equally gratuitous assertion... here goes: NUH UH!
Aren't debate rules marvelous?
It was pretty weak. Usually the point of sarcasm is to reference something someone said regarding the current topic. I've said nothing regarding Christianity.I was sarcastically arguing against you.
What positive claim did I make? My point was that now there are more women in the workforce working jobs and they still have their previous roles as wives and mothers as well.
Do you dispute that reality?
Women in the workforce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Women in the workforce: Female power | The Economist
http://www.thelaborsite.com/women1.cfm
http://www.dol.gov/wb/info_about_wb/interwb.htm
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2002/05/art2full.pdf
The History of Women in the Workplace [Infographic]
Online Guide to Women in the Workforce: Past and Present - OnlineMBA.com
you wanted evidence. Dive in.
and data on single parenthood and how it impacts women four times more than men
Single parent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What positive claim did I make? My point was that now there are more women in the workforce working jobs and they still have their previous roles as wives and mothers as well.
Do you dispute that reality?
Women in the workforce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Women in the workforce: Female power | The Economist
http://www.thelaborsite.com/women1.cfm
http://www.dol.gov/wb/info_about_wb/interwb.htm
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2002/05/art2full.pdf
The History of Women in the Workplace [Infographic]
Online Guide to Women in the Workforce: Past and Present - OnlineMBA.com
you wanted evidence. Dive in.
and data on single parenthood and how it impacts women four times more than men
Single parent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You aren't proving the point. Nobody is arguing that there aren't more women working. You are trying to prove that the more women working means overall work burden is higher for women and that that is contributing to declining longevity. You are only proving the point nobody disagrees with.