Who do you trust?

[ALiberalModerate]

Comparing Clinton's lying to Trump's is like comparing someone that goes out and ran a 5k once to a world class marathoner. In terms of honesty, Clinton is a typical politician and willing to obfuscate and omit key details when it comes to saving her own ass. Trump however is a pathological liar. He will lie to save his own ass. He will lie to make himself look better. He will lie when he thinks it will improve a story. He will lie to slander others. He will lie to promote hatred of certain groups (races, religions, ethnicities) He will lie for no obvious reason at all and when its obvious that he will get caught in the lie. He is easily the most dishonest major party candidate ever to seek the presidency. So between the two, I trust Clinton more. Moreover, I think its a disservice to pathological liars to compare a typical politician like Clinton to a true pathological liar like Trump.

Hearing Trump speak reminds me of the old Pathological Liars Anonymous bit on SNL in the 80s:

Watch Tommy Flanagan: Pathological Liars Anonymous From Saturday Night Live - NBC.com

Historians agree too: The Party Of Honest Abe Now Stuck With Dishonest Don

 

[ajn678]

Comparing Clinton's lying to Trump's is like comparing someone that goes out and ran a 5k once to a world class marathoner. In terms of honesty, Clinton is a typical politician and willing to obfuscate and omit key details when it comes to saving her own ass. Trump however is a pathological liar. He will lie to save his own ass. He will lie to make himself look better. He will lie when he thinks it will improve a story. He will lie to slander others. He will lie to promote hatred of certain groups (races, religions, ethnicities) He will lie for no obvious reason at all and when its obvious that he will get caught in the lie. He is easily the most dishonest major party candidate ever to seek the presidency. So between the two, I trust Clinton more. Moreover, I think its a disservice to pathological liars to compare a typical politician like Clinton to a true pathological liar like Trump.

Hearing Trump speak reminds me of the old Pathological Liars Anonymous bit on SNL in the 80s:

Watch Tommy Flanagan: Pathological Liars Anonymous From Saturday Night Live - NBC.com

Historians agree too: The Party Of Honest Abe Now Stuck With Dishonest Don

The idea that Clinton is any less a liar than Trump is downright hilarious. The lady has made a career out of lying to everyone around her. As well as the American people in regards to national security.

 

[Peter King]

Trump is one of the most successful Businessmen in US history and Hillary is a Politician/Bureaucrat who aside from selling access to foreigners has failed at everything she has ever tried. That is the choice.

Say what now? Trump one of the most successful business men in US history :lamo

What utter nonsense, he got a bit inheritance from his daddy, he got a start up capital from daddy, had several bankruptcies and is infamous for crooked deals and shortchanging people.

Compared to Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Larry Ellison, Jeff Bezos, Charles Koch, David Koch, Christy Walton, Jim Walton, Alice Walton, Robson Walton, Mike Bloomberg, etc. etc. etc.

There are some from old money and some new money but a lot of them are totally self made billionaires who did not rely on the bank of mum and dad or the inheritance of daddy, or who are famous for crooked deals. And then we are not even talking about the real successful US business men like Rockefeller, Henry Ford, Andrew Carnegie, Steve Jobs, Ross Perot, Richard Sears, Alvah Roebuck, Ray Croc, Walt Disney, Marriot, Hilton, Levi Strauss, Kellog, Hershey, etc. etc. etc.

Trump one of the most successful businessmen in history :rofl :2rofll:

Don't get me wrong, he did well for himself (and mostly himself leaving others much much much less well off) but one of the most successful businessmen in US history is just a ridiculous claim.

 

[d0gbreath]

I don't have enough faith in the system for me to do that.

The system is self guided. It's always been like this. The more things change...

 

[tres borrachos]

Okay, we're down to Sen. Clinton and Mr. Trump as the two Democrats running for President, one running as a Republican. As you might guess, I am not a Trumpkin. I've never voted for a Democrat to be president and I won't now, even if he's running as a Republican.

Now, a poll. Who do you trust? Who do you think is honest? Who do you think cares about America and would put the country's welfare above personal greed?

An easy poll.

Probably the easiest poll question I've ever answered. No thinking required. These are the two biggest con artists to ever be nominated by the major parties.

 

[Casca XV]

Say what now? Trump one of the most successful business men in US history :lamo

What utter nonsense, he got a bit inheritance from his daddy, he got a start up capital from daddy, had several bankruptcies and is infamous for crooked deals and shortchanging people.

Compared to Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Larry Ellison, Jeff Bezos, Charles Koch, David Koch, Christy Walton, Jim Walton, Alice Walton, Robson Walton, Mike Bloomberg, etc. etc. etc.

There are some from old money and some new money but a lot of them are totally self made billionaires who did not rely on the bank of mum and dad or the inheritance of daddy, or who are famous for crooked deals. And then we are not even talking about the real successful US business men like Rockefeller, Henry Ford, Andrew Carnegie, Steve Jobs, Ross Perot, Richard Sears, Alvah Roebuck, Ray Croc, Walt Disney, Marriot, Hilton, Levi Strauss, Kellog, Hershey, etc. etc. etc.

Trump one of the most successful businessmen in history :rofl :2rofll:

Don't get me wrong, he did well for himself (and mostly himself leaving others much much much less well off) but one of the most successful businessmen in US history is just a ridiculous claim.

Inheritance, sorry but Trumps Dad did not die until 2002. By then Trump was a billionaire and worth ten times more than his father ever was.

Trump has had over 550 business ventures only about 6 could be construed as failures.

Look at who you have name to compare to Trump. That actually makes my point. Unlike Trump most got rich from one business venture they were not successful with 550 like trump.

 

[cpwill]

I'm going to assume that everyone voting for anything other than the last option is being ironic.

 

[Ikari]

Okay, we're down to Sen. Clinton and Mr. Trump as the two Democrats running for President, one running as a Republican. As you might guess, I am not a Trumpkin. I've never voted for a Democrat to be president and I won't now, even if he's running as a Republican.

Now, a poll. Who do you trust? Who do you think is honest? Who do you think cares about America and would put the country's welfare above personal greed?

An easy poll.

They are both dishonest dirtbags.

 

[Absentglare]

I trust neither Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

They both have proven themselves to be untrustworthy, corrupt, lying candidates.

I think we can trust Hillary to do less damage than Trump.

 

[Surrealistik]

I'm going to assume that everyone voting for anything other than the last option is being ironic.

Noting the posting history of those voting for the first two categories (with several being essentially de facto shills), that unfortunately is not the case.

 

[Ikari]

I think we can trust Hillary to do less damage than Trump.

Maybe on some relative scale, if you zoom in close enough, there can be some distinction between the two. But on the absolute scale, it's neigh identical.

 

[Absentglare]

Maybe on some relative scale, if you zoom in close enough, there can be some distinction between the two. But on the absolute scale, it's neigh identical.

Case in point : Hillary isn't asking why we don't use nukes.

It's one of those, if you have to ask, you won't understand the answer anyways types of questions.

 

[Ikari]

Case in point : Hillary isn't asking why we don't use nukes.

It's one of those, if you have to ask, you won't understand the answer anyways types of questions.

Hillary doesn't need to use Nukes, Like Clinton then Bush then Obama before her, she can bomb the **** out of places just as well with conventional bombs. Trump will do the same. They're both interested in perpetuating our Infinity War.

 

[Absentglare]

Hillary doesn't need to use Nukes, Like Clinton then Bush then Obama before her, she can bomb the **** out of places just as well with conventional bombs. Trump will do the same. They're both interested in perpetuating our Infinity War.

That's at least partially true, but i don't know, i view Hillary as a lot more predictable than Trump...

 

[Ikari]

That's at least partially true, but i don't know, i view Hillary as a lot more predictable than Trump...

Only in that she's a standard Corporate Republocrat, out for the highest-bidder and looking to maintain the status quo. Not in the sense that it's a positive quality.

 

[Patrickt]

I think we can trust Hillary to do less damage than Trump.

Really? They both have a history of doing damage but only one in the government.

If you consider Sen. Clinton predictable then you would have to expect her to fire government employees to install her friends as in Travelgate and you would predict that she would have thousands of dollars going to Bill Clinton while she issues unprecedented Presidential Pardons as in Marc Rich and you would expect Sen. Clinton to be as honest and straightforward as she'd been on Benghazi or the email fiasco.

You would have to predict Sen. Clinton taking us to a war unapproved by Congress as in Libya. With Sen. Clinton and the Clinton Foundation we would predict that her guiding principle will continue to be, if the money's there, I do not care.

But, don't consider me a Trumpkin. Mr. Trump is at least as bad, perhaps worse. Sen. Clinton has a terrible record in government and Mr. Trump has a terrible record in the private sector.

 

[Casca XV]

Why? You aren't capable of using Google? Trump University? Three money-making bankruptcies? Polish illegal immigrants not paid? Improper loans from daddy for which there was a $30,000 fine? How about Donald's bragging that he bribes politicians? I'm sure you're shocked that the 70-year old man who obsesses on the size of his hands and who said all the women on The Apprentice flirted with him had to pull a Clinton and settle a lawsuit for sexual harassment. And we all know why he didn't have to face the draft. He said he had a high draft number. It had nothing to do with the son of a multimillionaire, an outstanding athlete being classified as unfit for military service.

Trump University is pretty much the weakest civil suit US history Its only being kept alive by a DNC lap dog Law Firm and a Judge that is an Illegal Alien advocate. The entire purpose of this lawsuit is to hurt Trump Politically.

The Clinton Foundation on the other hand is still under criminal investigation. Imagine a charity organization that give less than 10% of the donations it receives to charity, well that is the Clinton foundation?

Trump has had over 550 business ventures only about 6 could be construed as failures. That record pretty much makes him the most successful business man in US history.

Trump made his money by producing/investing in good and services people want. The Clinton's made 300 million dollars exploiting public office.

Over the last 40 years there have been 20 women who have openly accused Bill Clinton of rape or sexual assault. This number doesn’t include consensual affairs like Lewinsky. First known case: In 1969 he was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford he never completed the program because he was kicked out after rape allegations made by 19 year old English woman Eileen Wellstone. In later cases many of the women who came forward claim they were victimized by Hillary almost as bad as Bill: Threats against themselves and their children, pets being killed.

The allegations Trump have almost all been proven BS. Trumps X wife admitted her allegations in divorce court were a lie.

Trump has employed tens of thousands of people, that the DNC can only find about 20 who were unhappy says it all.

Trump is not perfect. Go this hard core into anyone's background and you will find a lot of $hlt. But compared to the Clinton's Trump is Christ walking on water.

 

[Absentglare]

Really? They both have a history of doing damage but only one in the government.

Trump has zero experience in government.

If you consider Sen. Clinton predictable then you would have to expect her to fire government employees to install her friends as in Travelgate and you would predict that she would have thousands of dollars going to Bill Clinton while she issues unprecedented Presidential Pardons as in Marc Rich and you would expect Sen. Clinton to be as honest and straightforward as she'd been on Benghazi or the email fiasco.

Even if that were coherent, i expect that it would not be accurate.

Officials often appoint their own administrators.

President Bill Clinton is her husband and it is not uncommon to issue pardons.

She was pretty straightforward on Benghazi, pretty much all of the right wings lies were exposed for what they are.

You would have to predict Sen. Clinton taking us to a war unapproved by Congress as in Libya. With Sen. Clinton and the Clinton Foundation we would predict that her guiding principle will continue to be, if the money's there, I do not care.

We weren't at direct war with Libya, we were supporting a multinational effort. It was quite different than in the Iraq invasion where we were spearheading the effort.

But, don't consider me a Trumpkin. Mr. Trump is at least as bad, perhaps worse. Sen. Clinton has a terrible record in government and Mr. Trump has a terrible record in the private sector.

I don't care for name-calling and i don't think supporting Trump makes someone a bad person. I simply have a different opinion.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

I'm afraid that my vote for him would be a wasted vote

Don't worry, you love in Alabama - your state hasn't voted blue in a Presidential Election since 1976, and the last three elections have at least twenty point gaps between D's and R's. There is literally no chance that you voting third party will change the outcome.

 

[American]

Okay, we're down to Sen. Clinton and Mr. Trump as the two Democrats running for President, one running as a Republican. As you might guess, I am not a Trumpkin. I've never voted for a Democrat to be president and I won't now, even if he's running as a Republican.

Now, a poll. Who do you trust? Who do you think is honest? Who do you think cares about America and would put the country's welfare above personal greed?

An easy poll.

Not sure you can prove that neither care about America.

 

[Peter King]

Inheritance, sorry but Trumps Dad did not die until 2002. By then Trump was a billionaire and worth ten times more than his father ever was.

Trump has had over 550 business ventures only about 6 could be construed as failures.

Look at who you have name to compare to Trump. That actually makes my point. Unlike Trump most got rich from one business venture they were not successful with 550 like trump.

Sorry, but that still does not change the ridiculousness of your claim that he was one of the greatest business men ever in the US because that is a total crock. And just because the did not fail, does not mean they were successful.

And only about 6 could be construed as failures, how about:

- Trump steaks
- GoTrump.com
- Trump airlines
- Trump vodka
- Trump mortgage
- Trump the game
- Trump magazine
- Trump university
- Trump ice
- The New Jersey Generals
- Tour de Trump
- Trump of the Ocean
- the Trump network
- Trumped!
- Trump new media
- Trump casino's

And then I am not even talking about the failed projects that he had his name attached too, Or the failed real estate projects that he himself oversaw. Or the bankruptcy's. So again, your claim that he is one of the greatest business men ever in the US is just silly and totally bogus.

 

[Josie]

Who are you people who trust Trump, Hillary or both? Insane.

 

[FieldTheorist]

Just so everyone is clear here: There's bipartisan, overwhelming agreement that the two people who will become president in January of 2017 are complete liars and scumbags.

In other words, the two people who shouldn't become president are the only two people who can become president. We should really ask ourselves: At what point we stop calling this a democracy and start calling it a plutocracy?

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Just so everyone is clear here: There's bipartisan, overwhelming agreement that the two people who will become president in January of 2017 are complete liars and scumbags.

In other words, the two people who shouldn't become president are the only two people who can become president. We should really ask ourselves: At what point we stop calling this a democracy and start calling it a plutocracy?

My signature speaks for itself: I believe that Hilliary Clinton is the most expierenced candidate in this race, and she has the knowledge necessary to face the challenges facing us as a country.

 

[FieldTheorist]

My signature speaks for itself: I believe that Hilliary Clinton is the most expierenced candidate in this race, and she has the knowledge necessary to face the challenges facing us as a country.

I'm not denying that you believe this. I'm simply denying that it's fact-based.