White Nationalist PAC Blankets Iowa With Robocalls For Trump

[digitusmedius]

White Nationalist PAC Blankets Iowa With Robocalls For Trump

Follow the link in ¶7 to get to the "white nationalist" (read: neo-nazi) site. In one of those ironies of far right wing religious extremism, they get a Filipino god botherer to deliver the message. I imagine this guy thinks he's been allowed into the "white nationalist" community because he's co-opted himself so much. What a surprise is awaiting him if these neo-nazis ever do get power.

Some low-lights from the neo-nazi leadership:

“I urge you to vote for Donald Trump because he is the one candidate who points out that we should accept immigrants who are good for America,” Jared Taylor said on the robocall, paid for by the American National Super PAC. “We don’t need Muslims. We need smart, well-educated white people who will assimilate to our culture. Vote Trump.”

And from the Nationalist site, here's the religious freak, Tan, again:

When asked why he has agreed to work with white nationalists to support Donald Trump, Reverend Ronald Tan replied: “America has lost its direction. Donald Trump is called ‘The Great White Hope’ for racially conscious whites, but he is also called of God to make America great again. Donald Trump says what he believes. He may be weak and foolish in the eyes of man, but he is qualified to be an instrument in God’s hands.”

And for those who try to apply Godwin's Law on my characterization of these scumbags as neo-nazis, they need to be reminded of the provenance of the word "nazi." It's a contraction of the party created by Hitler, et al: "National Socialist." Since then any individual or party incorporating any of the ideals of that original party has used the term "nationalist" to indicate that affinity. Calling oneself a "nationalist" is openly identifying oneself as sympathetic to the nazi ideology, particularly white supremacy in countries where whites are either the majority or hold power by force over a non-white majority (e.g., the "National Party" which created the apartheid regime of South Africa, and referred to themselves as "nationalists," too).

 

[clownboy]

How cute, someone still reads TPM.

 

[Ray410]

Digitusmedis - What in Hell is a "Filipino God botherer? Your words, you explain.

 

[digitusmedius]

How cute, someone still reads TPM.

I can always rely on your sort to ignore the source for the story. Don't blame you for wanting to pretend it's not true. But why don't you wear your bigotry proudly like so many of your ilk are now doing?

 

[digitusmedius]

I can always rely on your sort to ignore the source for the story. Don't blame you for wanting to pretend it's not true. But why don't you wear your bigotry proudly like so many of your ilk are now doing?

I can only put stuff up. I can't make you people read or listen to it much less understand anything.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

“I urge you to vote for Donald Trump because he is the one candidate who points out that we should accept immigrants who are good for America,” Jared Taylor said on the robocall, paid for by the American National Super PAC. “We don’t need Muslims. We need smart, well-educated white people who will assimilate to our culture. Vote Trump.”

Bigot, no doubt.

It's too bad that idiots like this prevent a real conversation from taking place. Restate that quote like this...

“I urge you to vote for Donald Trump because he is the one candidate who points out that we should accept immigrants who are good for America,” Jared Taylor said on the robocall, paid for by the American National Super PAC. We need smart, well-educated people who will assimilate to our culture. Vote Trump.”

...and it opens the door to a discussion we need to have. ASSIMILATION. We should be demanding it and not cowering to some PC bull**** which seeks to label the concept as bigoted.

 

[Jetboogieman]

ASSIMILATION.

See I don't get this entirely.

There is no single, unified and strict American culture to assimilate too.

Even born Americans are vastly different coast to coast, have different interpretations of the constitution, differences in how they perceive the world etc...

Exactly what is it people should assimilate to believe when they come?

And isn't thinking that way in direct antithesis to the idea that freedom of expression and thought are fundamental values, that you don't have to conform to any one way of thinking.

I came to Canada as an immigrant and in some ways I'm more Canadian and in some ways I keep those South African and British things that are important to me and in no way is that detrimental to my experience here.

In the same way that a Nova Scotian can be vastly different to a British Columbian, or an Albertan... Or a New Yorker to a Californian or a Texan.

 

[beefheart]

Trump: Making racists feel they can be overtly racist again.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

See I don't get this entirely.

There is no single, unified and strict American culture to assimilate too.

Even born Americans are vastly different coast to coast, have different interpretations of the constitution, differences in how they perceive the world etc...

Exactly what is it people should assimilate to believe when they come?

And isn't thinking that way in direct antithesis to the idea that freedom of expression and thought are fundamental values, that you don't have to conform to any one way of thinking.

I came to Canada as an immigrant and in some ways I'm more Canadian and in some ways I keep those South African and British things that are important to me and in no way is that detrimental to my experience here.

In the same way that a Nova Scotian can be vastly different to a British Columbian, or an Albertan... Or a New Yorker to a Californian or a Texan.

Think about it within the context of acceptable social norms. What is an acceptable social norm in the nether regions of the Middle East is going to be appalling to people on main street USA and there really isn't any room to compromise.

It's got nothing to do with freedom of expression.

 

[beefheart]

Bigot, no doubt.

It's too bad that idiots like this prevent a real conversation from taking place. Restate that quote like this...



...and it opens the door to a discussion we need to have. ASSIMILATION. We should be demanding it and not cowering to some PC bull**** which seeks to label the concept as bigoted.

Your anti diversity BS is just your version of PC.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Your anti diversity BS is just your version of PC.

I don't consider misogyny to be a desirable form of diversity.

Sorry.

 

[Hatuey]

White Nationalist PAC Blankets Iowa With Robocalls For Trump

Follow the link in ¶7 to get to the "white nationalist" (read: neo-nazi) site. In one of those ironies of far right wing religious extremism, they get a Filipino god botherer to deliver the message. I imagine this guy thinks he's been allowed into the "white nationalist" community because he's co-opted himself so much. What a surprise is awaiting him if these neo-nazis ever do get power.

Some low-lights from the neo-nazi leadership:



And from the Nationalist site, here's the religious freak, Tan, again:



And for those who try to apply Godwin's Law on my characterization of these scumbags as neo-nazis, they need to be reminded of the provenance of the word "nazi." It's a contraction of the party created by Hitler, et al: "National Socialist." Since then any individual or party incorporating any of the ideals of that original party has used the term "nationalist" to indicate that affinity. Calling oneself a "nationalist" is openly identifying oneself as sympathetic to the nazi ideology, particularly white supremacy in countries where whites are either the majority or hold power by force over a non-white majority (e.g., the "National Party" which created the apartheid regime of South Africa, and referred to themselves as "nationalists," too).

That statement there takes quite a bit of mental effort to justify seeing that nationalism was around 4-5 centuries before nazis were....

 

[beefheart]

I don't consider misogyny to be a desirable form of diversity.

Sorry.

Boo hoo.

Everyone that pulls the old "PC" card has their own version of "PC" they wish to inflict.

 

[Casper]

See I don't get this entirely.

There is no single, unified and strict American culture to assimilate too.

Even born Americans are vastly different coast to coast, have different interpretations of the constitution, differences in how they perceive the world etc...

Exactly what is it people should assimilate to believe when they come?

And isn't thinking that way in direct antithesis to the idea that freedom of expression and thought are fundamental values, that you don't have to conform to any one way of thinking.

I came to Canada as an immigrant and in some ways I'm more Canadian and in some ways I keep those South African and British things that are important to me and in no way is that detrimental to my experience here.

In the same way that a Nova Scotian can be vastly different to a British Columbian, or an Albertan... Or a New Yorker to a Californian or a Texan.

Very Well Said.:applaud

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Boo hoo.

Everyone that pulls the old "PC" card has their own version of "PC" they wish to inflict.

Big on absolutes, I see...

 

[beefheart]

Big on absolutes, I see...

Just replying to your absolutist "PC" nonsense.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Think about it within the context of acceptable social norms. What is an acceptable social norm in the nether regions of the Middle East is going to be appalling to people on main street USA and there really isn't any room to compromise.

It's got nothing to do with freedom of expression.

Give me an example of what you mean.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Just replying to your absolutist "PC" nonsense.

Assimilate

Someone who believes that women are property who moves to a society which values equal rights for ALL is going to need to assimilate.

Stop being a partisan dick.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Give me an example of what you mean.

Someone who believes that women are property who moves to a society which values equal rights for ALL is going to need to assimilate.

 

[beefheart]

Assimilate

Someone who believes that women are property who moves to a society which values equal rights for ALL is going to need to assimilate.

Stop being a partisan dick.

Stop calling me a dick.

 

[Jack Fabulous]

Stop calling me a dick.

I'll consider it.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Someone who believes that women are property who moves to a society which values equal rights for ALL is going to need to assimilate.

Ok... Fair enough.

How you going to test for that or deny someone entry on that basis of their belief?

Case in point, a Muslim or Orthodox Jewish Family apply to come to the USA, they meet all economic, health and lack of criminality criteria, all including the mother are devout practitioners and may not believe they are property per-say, but to our sensibility it appears so, to them they accept an inferior role... But that's how they choose to live, as its what they are taught from a young age, would you deny them on that basis?

Second case in point, you have citizens in your own country who believe women are property/inferior, what should be done with them?

They're ok to not assimilate to a certain viewpoint because they just happened to come out of a ***** in your own country?

Should they be forced to assimilate?

Look... It's a tricky issue, I know we don't want to be importing bad people into our countries... But I'm a big believer that one has to notice the way in which the belief manifests itself and not the belief itself because people profess to believe all sorts of things, but the last time I checked most peoples beliefs don't manifest themselves into extreme action, regardless of the belief.

If a belief that women are inferior (and certainly there's no shortage of that viewpoint on this very board) manifests itself so that a man believes they have a right to abuse a women, mentally or physically on that basis, then every effort should be made to ensure that, that person has options available to her for redress and justice.

But the idea that you're able to weed out philosophical beliefs such as these in the immigration process before or after that person has immigrated, or apply a broad brush to an entire demographic seems a little far fetched.

 

[Fletch]

I can always rely on your sort to ignore the source for the story. Don't blame you for wanting to pretend it's not true. But why don't you wear your bigotry proudly like so many of your ilk are now doing?

Do have evidence of clownboys bigotry? I'll wait....

 

[Fletch]

If a belief that women are inferior (and certainly there's no shortage of that viewpoint on this very board) manifests itself so that a man believes they have a right to abuse a women, mentally or physically on that basis, then every effort should be made to ensure that, that person has options available to her for redress and justice.

That viewpoint is widespread here? Where?

 

[Jetboogieman]

That viewpoint is widespread here? Where?

This isn't the basement, I'm not here to name names and point out each individual guilty of it, and to be fair the better thing to say would have been "there has been no shortage" since a few of the worst sexist individuals have left us... but make no mistake, it's around.

And if you haven't seen it, oh well :shrug: