US School Spending up 120%+ over 30 years, test scores remain flat

[SocialD]

Here is a list of unfunded mandates that public schools have to pay for and the list keeps growing.....http://www.vestal.stier.org/Downloads/UnfundedMandates.pdf

so the implication is that regulation is eating up a lot of money... who would have guessed ;P

 

[Fiddytree]

Here is a list of unfunded mandates that public schools have to pay for and the list keeps growing.....http://www.vestal.stier.org/Downloads/UnfundedMandates.pdf

What becomes sad is each are desperately needed, but they in turn ask the states to do with less. Then in many cases the states follow suit and ask districts to do more. The districts must do more, but good government does not pit student and parent against teachers and administrators. Yet that is often what happens. I had another good reminder of that this morning.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Sir, you will find that my opinions are backed up by fact and are universally held throughout the country, including in your neck of the woods. If you have difficulty comprehending how something so basic as note taking accommodations are needed for the plethora of disabilities out there--something that has been widely implemented and incredibly innocuous from elementary school to post-secondary education since 1973, then there is no helping you. Professors in higher education pay students to do it, teachers in the public schools either provide their notes or have another student do so. I cannot think of a logical reason why one must have a conniption over this innocuous accommodation. If you flip out over something at something so basic, something that had been widely acknowledged as a need since Ed Roberts attended Berkeley in the early 1960s, I do not think it worth anyone's time to bother with you.

Don't worry, we won't be conversing with one another again.

Simply stated, you haven't the slightest clue about the truth of the application of your so called "universality" which, here, you have so flimsily made stark. To imply that you do, "throughout the country", indicates that I must have hit my mark with the intimacy of your association with those involved in the arrangement and procurement of these plans. And, if so, you should have from the start identified that conflict of interest.

Not to mention, I specifically requested of you that unless you could meet some very minimum based criteria [ I provided the notes on that for you ] that you were not to respond. I thought I had made it fairly explicit that I don't truck with folks who plainly have no idea, nor care really, what happens at ground level. The attempt here, in your last hurrah, to reduce the totality of what I said to being a "conniption" over note taking accommodations is a mere indication of your continued disingenuous nature.

 

[David_N]

It's ok, if we cut education and ignore poverty, scores will improve.

 

[DA60]

Up by 120% huh?

I guess that means young Americans are smarter by 120% then their parents?

:lamo

Typical socialistic response to a problem...just keep throwing money at it until it gets better (or until you run out of money).


When will Americans learn, public schools are hideous learning institutions?

I went to several private and public schools - and the worst private school was galactically superior to the best public school.

 

[jet57]

Why does the United States spend so much on education per student compared to other nations, yet has mediocre outcomes?
At an increased education expense of around 120% (inflation adjusted) over 30 years...we have flat test scores to show for it, what's going on?

Education is the #1 long term solution to nearly every problem that arises (culture, poverty, wealth inequality, politics, the economy, careers) and yet its one of our worst performing areas. In every other area of industry productivity has dramatically INCREASED. In other areas of industry everyone copies our models. But it's gone dramatically backwards in education?

Brat: U.S. school spending up 375 percent over 30 years but test score remain flat | PolitiFact Virginia

Clearly there is something wrong, that's big, and obvious, why is not so well known?
Has any politician offered any reasonable solutions to of late from either party?

Flat vs expenses
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Staff vs students
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I think that the real problem is two fold: there is away to much social media / pacifier, for kids to be on all day long, which really diverts their attention and parents have way too much control over discipline causing schools to dumb down the entire social and professional interactions between staff and students.

 

[sangha]

Up by 120% huh?

I guess that means young Americans are smarter by 120% then their parents?

:lamo

If the private schools you went to were so great, how come you don't realize that spending on education didn't go up 120%?