• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

U.S. Nonfarm Payrolls Rose 178,000 in November; Unemployment Rate Falls to 4.6%

Just because your messiah looks to Breitbart as an advisor doesn't mean Breitbart is not to be laughed at.

Truth hurts, don't it?
 
Truth? :lol:

The truth that dear leader has delivered the worst GDP in American history. He's looking at failing to break 3% in any quarter of 2016. Hell, the 2nd quarter was only 1.4% :lamo
 
The truth that dear leader has delivered the worst GDP in American history. He's looking at failing to break 3% in any quarter of 2016. Hell, the 2nd quarter was only 1.4% :lamo

Truth is our economy grew faster than most of the rest of the world. I know that pains you... but it's the truth.

Truth is Clinton handed Bush a good economy and Bush handed Obama a complete economic disaster.

Truth is Obama is handing Trump and good economy and lets see what he does with it... shall we?
 
Truth is our economy grew faster than most of the rest of the world. I know that pains you... but it's the truth.

Truth is Clinton handed Bush a good economy and Bush handed Obama a complete economic disaster.

Truth is Obama is handing Trump and good economy and lets see what he does with it... shall we?

The rest of the world isn't the barometer. Claiming that our economy sucks, but every other country's economy sucks worse isn't a winning argument.

Dear leader is handing President Trump an economy that's mediocre, at best.
 
The fact that they're not in the labor force means they're no longer counted.
Of course they're counted: 95 million. Many have never been in the labor force.

The unemployment rate is down because fewer people are in the work force, not because more people are working.
but more people are working. The UE rate is the percent of people doing something about work who aren't working. People who don't want a job don't help with that picture.
 
Of course they're counted: 95 million. Many have never been in the labor force.

but more people are working. The UE rate is the percent of people doing something about work who aren't working. People who don't want a job don't help with that picture.

It's impossible for more people to be working, when the labor non-participation is at a record high.
 
The rest of the world isn't the barometer. Claiming that our economy sucks, but every other country's economy sucks worse isn't a winning argument.

Yes the world is. It is precisely the barometer to measure by. We are in a global economy. That is what right wingers always tell us. "WE ARE IN A GLOBAL ECONOMY!!!!!1!!!!11"

It's why when one economy goes down it tends to have a very harsh effect on other economies. I know you don't like facts but... thems the facts.

Dear leader is handing President Trump an economy that's mediocre, at best.

Obama is handing your messiah a stable good economy with 4.6% unemployment... another stat you can't wrap your brain around without tossing out conspiracy theories.
 
Yes the world is. It is precisely the barometer to measure by. We are in a global economy. That is what right wingers always tell us. "WE ARE IN A GLOBAL ECONOMY!!!!!1!!!!11"

It's why when one economy goes down it tends to have a very harsh effect on other economies. I know you don't like facts but... thems the facts.



Obama is handing your messiah a stable good economy with 4.6% unemployment... another stat you can't wrap your brain around without tossing out conspiracy theories.

Ah, so it's ok that our economy sucks as long as everyone's else's sucks more?

I hope you people aren't still confused about why your party got it's ass handed it. :lamo
 
Ah, so it's ok that our economy sucks as long as everyone's else's sucks more?

I hope you people aren't still confused about why your party got it's ass handed it. :lamo

oh boy... the ignorance of economics of the right... it is something to fear.
 
oh boy... the ignorance of economics of the right... it is something to fear.

The Left gave us the worst GDP in American history and WE are ignorant? :lamo
 
The Left gave us the worst GDP in American history and WE are ignorant? :lamo

The left pulled our economic fat out of that right wing inferno and stabilized our economy again. You're welcome.
 
The left pulled our economic fat out of that right wing inferno and stabilized our economy again. You're welcome.

The Left created the inferno. The recession was a result of the Community Reinvestment Act, that was passed by a Democrat Congress. Now, the grownups are in charge, again.
 
The Left created the inferno. The recession was a result of the Community Reinvestment Act, that was passed by a Democrat Congress. Now, the grownups are in charge, again.

that info bubble of lies might make you feel good but its still an information bubble of lies. the CRA didn't do that. Bush and his housing push plus tax cuts plus going to war while cutting tax cuts.... that's what did it. Your folks can't run an economy and history shows it pretty clearly.

GDP is growing much to your disappointment. While Bush handed Obama an economy that not only didn't have growth, it was going massively negative.

See this? That's what it looks like when a dem has to fix a republican's fucking mess.

Monthly_0208_0514.jpg
 
that info bubble of lies might make you feel good but its still an information bubble of lies. the CRA didn't do that. Bush and his housing push plus tax cuts plus going to war while cutting tax cuts.... that's what did it. Your folks can't run an economy and history shows it pretty clearly.

GDP is growing much to your disappointment. While Bush handed Obama an economy that not only didn't have growth, it was going massively negative.

See this? That's what it looks like when a dem has to fix a republican's fucking mess.

View attachment 67210670

Notice how the red lines dipped down after the Democrats won control of Congress?
 
Notice how the red lines dipped down after the Democrats won control of Congress?

gonna play that game huh? :lol:


Notice how the GDP went from UNDER that line and did a HUGE turn-around and went positive under a Dem prez, dem House and Dem Senate? I'm sure you do. And it still won't put a dent in that info bubble of lies you live in.
 
The U-3 means NOTHING.

It does not include people who are unemployed, desperate for a job but who are forced to give up looking. They are still unemployed and would still take a job tomorrow if they could get it...but they are not counted by the pathetic U-3.

The U-6 is THE proper unemployment rate...even if the BLS is too dumb/corrupted to admit it.

And the U-6 is 9.3%...that is the official unemployment rate to me.


Want more proof that the U-3 is a joke and that this 'recovery' is as well?

Look at the employment-population ratio...which is a FAR better measuring stick for employment than the U-3 or the U-6. Despite the fact that the U-3 is now just where it was before the Great Recession began, the employment-population ratio is nowhere near where it was then.

latest_numbers_LNS12300000_2006_2016_all_period_M11_data.gif


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

And even the heart of the economy - the 25-54's - still has not recovered from the start of the Great Recession

latest_numbers_LNS12300060_2006_2016_all_period_M11_data.gif


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


The recovery is a joke. The employment situation is FAR worse than it was before the Great Recession began...so is the home ownership rate, so is the M3 Money Velocity and on and on.

If you think America has even come close to fully recovered from the Great Recession...you are completed ignorant on the situation. But don't feel bad...that is EXACTLY what the government wants you to think...you are acting like a good, trained minion.


And, once again, this is not political as I am neither Dem nor Rep nor any other political party.
 
Last edited:
The U-3 means NOTHING.
it means the percent of available labor that's not being used.

It does not include people who are unemployed, desperate for a job but who are forced to give up looking. They are still unemployed and would still take a job tomorrow if they could get it...but they are not counted by the pathetic U-3.
They're not included because they could not take up a job tomorrow because they are not trying to work.
U-6 is THE proper unemployment rate...even if the BLS is too dumb/corrupted to admit it.
The U-6 answers a different question and includes millions of employed people. But DA60 wants you to think someone who only worked 34 hours because of a slow week is really unemployed.

Look at the employment-population ratio...which is a FAR better measuring stick for employment than the U-3 or the U-6. Despite the fact that the U-3 is now just where it was before the Great Recession began, the employment-population ratio is nowhere near where it was then.
The emp-pop ratio tells us what percent of the population is working. But this doesn't necessarily reflect the job market as there are many many reasons for people to not work. The main reason the emp-pop ratio has gone down is because a higher percentage doesn't want to work.
 
Another intellectual argument from the Left. :lamo
Right, you label everything and anything you can not understand or agree with as left when in actuality is just reality. You should try it sometime. YOu will be amazed the burden that will fall off if you dare to set aside ignorance.
 
The truth that Trump looks to Brietbart as an advisor?

Yes, it does, it really does.

Andrew Breitbart died. Unfortunately, President Trump can't look to Mr. Breitbart for advice.
 
Back
Top Bottom