Trumpsters often say "Return to the peace and prosperity of the Trump years". Er, have they forgot that it was like The WWE in real time?

[98166]

Were there no new wars? Perhaps (in part because Trump did Putin's bidding), There was still Trump's assisination of the Iranian 2nd in command however which killed Canadian Citizens on a side note. Was the Economy solid? Yea, but Trump screwed that up by bungling Covid. However, there's no doubt about this part, so spare me on the Peace points.
From the horse's mouth, Trump didn't want to act that way. And, yea, if re elected, it would be even more of a dysfunctional drama in real time, just like The WWE.
Why is this ok Republicans? Give me "Boring Joe" any day.

On Day 1,001, Trump Made It Clear: Being ‘Presidential’ Is Boring (Published 2019)

If he acted “presidential,” Mr. Trump said Thursday night in Dallas, “everybody would be out of here so fast.”

www.nytimes.com

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

Also, what about the protests and the rioting in 2020 that he completely failed to control?

 

[98166]

Were there no new wars? Perhaps (in part because Trump did Putin's bidding), There was still Trump's assisination of the Iranian 2nd in command however which killed Canadian Citizens on a side note. Was the Economy solid? Yea, but Trump screwed that up by bungling Covid. However, there's no doubt about this part, so spare me on the Peace points.
From the horse's mouth, Trump didn't want to act that way. And, yea, if re elected, it would be even more of a dysfunctional drama in real time, just like The WWE.
Why is this ok Republicans? Give me "Boring Joe" any day.

On Day 1,001, Trump Made It Clear: Being ‘Presidential’ Is Boring (Published 2019)

If he acted “presidential,” Mr. Trump said Thursday night in Dallas, “everybody would be out of here so fast.”

www.nytimes.com

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/iran-soleimani-trump-trudeau-iraq-1.5422308

 

[98166]

Also, what about the protests and the rioting in 2020 that he completely failed to control?

Well he could have controlled them (or toned them down) by not being so us against them. As far as the answer to your point, in a way, I'm glad that he didn't control them the way I'm 99% sure he wanted to, Kent State 1970 style. Actually, he had 1 time when he indirectly did that.

Trump gloats about US Marshals' killing of Portland 'antifa' suspect

President Donald Trump on Thursday gloated over the September killing of Portland, Oregon, murder suspect Michael Reinoehl by law enforcement officers who had been deputized as US Marshals.

www.cnn.com

 

[Mycroft]

Were there no new wars? Perhaps (in part because Trump did Putin's bidding),

Utter nonsense.

Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he attacked Syria with cruise missiles? Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he sanctioned oil shipments to North Korea? Do you think he was doing Putin's bidding when he threatened to bomb Moscow?

Trump has never done Putin's bidding.

There was still Trump's assisination of the Iranian 2nd in command however which killed Canadian Citizens on a side note.

Have you forgotten that killing was in response to the death of US Servicemen in Iraq? That "Iranian 2nd in command" deserved to die.

Was the Economy solid? Yea, but Trump screwed that up by bungling Covid.

Trump didn't kill the economy during covid. That was done by the Governors. They are the ones who shut down their state economies.

However, there's no doubt about this part, so spare me on the Peace points.
From the horse's mouth, Trump didn't want to act that way. And, yea, if re elected, it would be even more of a dysfunctional drama in real time, just like The WWE.
Why is this ok Republicans? Give me "Boring Joe" any day.

On Day 1,001, Trump Made It Clear: Being ‘Presidential’ Is Boring (Published 2019)

If he acted “presidential,” Mr. Trump said Thursday night in Dallas, “everybody would be out of here so fast.”

www.nytimes.com

Seriously...you need to stop listening to bullshit propaganda.

 

[98166]

Utter nonsense.

Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he attacked Syria with cruise missiles? Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he sanctioned oil shipments to North Korea? Do you think he was doing Putin's bidding when he threatened to bomb Moscow?

Trump has never done Putin's bidding.


Have you forgotten that killing was in response to the death of US Servicemen in Iraq? That "Iranian 2nd in command" deserved to die.


Trump didn't kill the economy during covid. That was done by the Governors. They are the ones who shut down their state economies.


Seriously...you need to stop listening to bullshit propaganda.

Blah, Blah, Blah, The NYT Times quoted his OWN WORDS. How is that not BS whatever you say?

 

[98166]

Sums it up....still true currently.


DB
Central Coast, CAOct. 19, 2019
Trump is a modern day gladiator performing in his arena against imagined evil warriors and paper tigers. His audiences, as in Roman days, are mesmerized by the spectacle. That outside his carefully chosen arenas, real people are suffering - even dying - as a direct result of the real, deranged Donald Trump is inconsequential to the crowds inside. Trump creates the fantasy world and his rally attendees go wherever he takes them. To those of us who see Trump acting in real time, in the real world - it is a modern day horror show

 

[StillBallin75]

They probably love the WWE.

This is what you get when Americans would rather be entertained than educated.

 

[Grand Mal]

Utter nonsense.

Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he attacked Syria with cruise missiles? Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he sanctioned oil shipments to North Korea? Do you think he was doing Putin's bidding when he threatened to bomb Moscow?

Trump has never done Putin's bidding.


Have you forgotten that killing was in response to the death of US Servicemen in Iraq? That "Iranian 2nd in command" deserved to die.


Trump didn't kill the economy during covid. That was done by the Governors. They are the ones who shut down their state economies.


Seriously...you need to stop listening to bullshit propaganda.

Trump's America...

 

[Mycroft]

Blah, Blah, Blah, The NYT Times quoted his OWN WORDS. How is that not BS whatever you say?

There was nothing wrong with Trump's words. That article took his words and applied the writer's Trump hating spin. THAT'S the stuff you should stop listening to.

 

[98166]

There was nothing wrong with Trump's words. That article took his words and applied the writer's Trump hating spin. THAT'S the stuff you should stop listening to.

FFS Mycroft just stop it. Here's the actual quote. It's reasonable to say, from it, that Trump thinks that acting Presidential would be boring.

At one point during one of his most unpresidential of days, President Trump insisted that he knew how to be presidential.
“It’s much easier being presidential, it’s easy,” he told a stadium full of more than 20,000 boisterous supporters in MAGA hats and T-shirts cheering his every word on Thursday night. “All you have to do is act like a stiff.”
He buttoned his suit coat, pursed his lips, squared his shoulders and dropped his arms rigidly at his sides. “Ladies and gentlemen of Texas,” he then droned in a sleep-inducing staccato monotone the way he imagined most of the other 44 presidents had done. “It is a great honor to be with you this evening.”
The crowd loved it, roaring with laughter. Transforming back into the unpresidential president America has come to know, Mr. Trump added, “And everybody would be out of here so fast! You wouldn’t come in in the first place!” Being presidential, he was saying, is so boring. Who wants that?

 

[j brown's body]

Also, what about the protests and the rioting in 2020 that he completely failed to control?

His war on Americans.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Were there no new wars? Perhaps (in part because Trump did Putin's bidding), There was still Trump's assisination of the Iranian 2nd in command however which killed Canadian Citizens on a side note. Was the Economy solid? Yea, but Trump screwed that up by bungling Covid. However, there's no doubt about this part, so spare me on the Peace points.
From the horse's mouth, Trump didn't want to act that way. And, yea, if re elected, it would be even more of a dysfunctional drama in real time, just like The WWE.
Why is this ok Republicans? Give me "Boring Joe" any day.

On Day 1,001, Trump Made It Clear: Being ‘Presidential’ Is Boring (Published 2019)

If he acted “presidential,” Mr. Trump said Thursday night in Dallas, “everybody would be out of here so fast.”

www.nytimes.com

Wow. Talk about a left slant. The numbers were by far the best we had seen. Economically, the border, energy independence, allies paying their fair shares, no wars, shut down Al Queda, got the Covid antivirus developed, any Covid related negatives came largely because of pressure from the left and advice from DR Fauci on shut downs, masking, getting the vaccine, forced closures in blue cities.
Trump actually said it came from the Wuhan lab, the left and Fauci said no it didn't, well it did. Trump was reluctant to shut down at first, turns out the shut downs and the forced vaccines, the firing of those who wouild not take the shot, were not warranted.
Boring Joe has open borders, planning massive tax increases, has already raised spending by billions, is purchasing votes from college students with loan forgiveness, is constantly dividing the nation with his MAGA rhetoric, has crime off the charts in blue cities and states, is admitting illegals who are unvetted.
You can have Joe and keep him to yourself..

 

[j brown's body]

Utter nonsense.

Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he attacked Syria with cruise missiles? Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he sanctioned oil shipments to North Korea? Do you think he was doing Putin's bidding when he threatened to bomb Moscow?

Trump has never done Putin's bidding.


Have you forgotten that killing was in response to the death of US Servicemen in Iraq? That "Iranian 2nd in command" deserved to die.


Trump didn't kill the economy during covid. That was done by the Governors. They are the ones who shut down their state economies.


Seriously...you need to stop listening to bullshit propaganda.

Dude's a traitor.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/index.html

 

[j brown's body]

Wow. Talk about a left slant. The numbers were by far the best we had seen. Economically, the border, energy independence, allies paying their fair shares, no wars, shut down Al Queda, got the Covid antivirus developed, any Covid related negatives came largely because of pressure from the left and advice from DR Fauci on shut downs, masking, getting the vaccine, forced closures in blue cities.
Trump actually said it came from the Wuhan lab, the left and Fauci said no it didn't, well it did. Trump was reluctant to shut down at first, turns out the shut downs and the forced vaccines, the firing of those who wouild not take the shot, were not warranted.
Boring Joe has open borders, planning massive tax increases, has already raised spending by billions, is purchasing votes from college students with loan forgiveness, is constantly dividing the nation with his MAGA rhetoric, has crime off the charts in blue cities and states, is admitting illegals who are unvetted.
You can have Joe and keep him to yourself..

Couldn't buy toilet paper.


The pandemic was like a gift from God for any president in an election year. He could have used it to bring the country together and use the federal government to help people.

Trump either didn't want to or couldn't be bothered to do either. He left virtually everything up to the states, taking a gamble that it would hit blue states worse and he could blame them while he did as little as possible.

And then he fomented an insurrection.

The nation is fortunate he is out of office and would be insane to put him back in.

 

[ataraxia]

Trump's America...
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Yep. Americans seem to have the memory of freaking goldfish. They are getting nostalgic for this?

 

[eohrnberger]

Utter nonsense.

Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he attacked Syria with cruise missiles? Do you think Trump was doing Putin's bidding when he sanctioned oil shipments to North Korea? Do you think he was doing Putin's bidding when he threatened to bomb Moscow?

Trump has never done Putin's bidding.


Have you forgotten that killing was in response to the death of US Servicemen in Iraq? That "Iranian 2nd in command" deserved to die.


Trump didn't kill the economy during covid. That was done by the Governors. They are the ones who shut down their state economies.


Seriously...you need to stop listening to bullshit propaganda.

Indeed. It's all which the LW media does, DNC political propaganda.

There was nothing wrong with Trump's words.

That article took his words and applied the writer's Trump hating spin.

Yup.

THAT'S the stuff you should stop listening to.

It's what most left of centers take as gospel, without any questioning or challenging.

 

[Grand Mal]

Wow. Talk about a left slant. The numbers were by far the best we had seen. Economically, the border, energy independence, allies paying their fair shares, no wars, shut down Al Queda, got the Covid antivirus developed, any Covid related negatives came largely because of pressure from the left and advice from DR Fauci on shut downs, masking, getting the vaccine, forced closures in blue cities.
Trump actually said it came from the Wuhan lab, the left and Fauci said no it didn't, well it did. Trump was reluctant to shut down at first, turns out the shut downs and the forced vaccines, the firing of those who wouild not take the shot, were not warranted.
Boring Joe has open borders, planning massive tax increases, has already raised spending by billions, is purchasing votes from college students with loan forgiveness, is constantly dividing the nation with his MAGA rhetoric, has crime off the charts in blue cities and states, is admitting illegals who are unvetted.
You can have Joe and keep him to yourself..

What a crock. Pure fiction, start to finish.

 

[eohrnberger]

Wow. Talk about a left slant. The numbers were by far the best we had seen. Economically, the border, energy independence, allies paying their fair shares, no wars, shut down Al Queda, got the Covid antivirus developed, any Covid related negatives came largely because of pressure from the left and advice from DR Fauci on shut downs, masking, getting the vaccine, forced closures in blue cities.
Trump actually said it came from the Wuhan lab, the left and Fauci said no it didn't, well it did. Trump was reluctant to shut down at first, turns out the shut downs and the forced vaccines, the firing of those who wouild not take the shot, were not warranted.
Boring Joe has open borders, planning massive tax increases, has already raised spending by billions, is purchasing votes from college students with loan forgiveness, is constantly dividing the nation with his MAGA rhetoric, has crime off the charts in blue cities and states, is admitting illegals who are unvetted.
You can have Joe and keep him to yourself..

In contrast, just look at what the LW DNC political propagandist media have all these people believing. <SMH>

 

[Mycroft]

FFS Mycroft just stop it. Here's the actual quote. It's reasonable to say, from it, that Trump thinks that acting Presidential would be boring.

At one point during one of his most unpresidential of days, President Trump insisted that he knew how to be presidential.
“It’s much easier being presidential, it’s easy,” he told a stadium full of more than 20,000 boisterous supporters in MAGA hats and T-shirts cheering his every word on Thursday night. “All you have to do is act like a stiff.”
He buttoned his suit coat, pursed his lips, squared his shoulders and dropped his arms rigidly at his sides. “Ladies and gentlemen of Texas,” he then droned in a sleep-inducing staccato monotone the way he imagined most of the other 44 presidents had done. “It is a great honor to be with you this evening.”
The crowd loved it, roaring with laughter. Transforming back into the unpresidential president America has come to know, Mr. Trump added, “And everybody would be out of here so fast! You wouldn’t come in in the first place!” Being presidential, he was saying, is so boring. Who wants that?

As I said. There's nothing wrong with his words. Heck, as your article said, "The crowd loved it".

 

[j brown's body]

"In the final year of Donald Trump’s presidency, more than 450,000 Americans died from COVID-19, and life expectancy fell by 1.13 years, the biggest decrease since World War II. Many of the deaths were avoidable; COVID-19 mortality in the U.S. was 40 percent higher than the average of the other wealthy nations in the Group of Seven (G7).

In a Lancet report by the Commission on Public Policy and Health in the Trump Era, released on February 20, we chronicled Trump's effects on population health. His incompetent and malevolent response to the COVID-19 pandemic capped a presidency suffused with health-harming policies and actions."

Trump's Policy Failures Have Exacted a Heavy Toll on Public Health

But things were on the decline long before he took office

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[98166]

Wow. Talk about a left slant. The numbers were by far the best we had seen. Economically, the border, energy independence, allies paying their fair shares, no wars, shut down Al Queda, got the Covid antivirus developed, any Covid related negatives came largely because of pressure from the left and advice from DR Fauci on shut downs, masking, getting the vaccine, forced closures in blue cities.
Trump actually said it came from the Wuhan lab, the left and Fauci said no it didn't, well it did. Trump was reluctant to shut down at first, turns out the shut downs and the forced vaccines, the firing of those who wouild not take the shot, were not warranted.

What a user name. Have you forgot about this? If Trump handled it, even like Trudeau did, he probably still would be President. That's on him.
Again this thread though is about his behavior. How can you defend that?

Trump told Bob Woodward he knew in February that COVID-19 was ‘deadly stuff’ but wanted to ‘play it down’

"It's not just old people," Trump told Woodward, acknowledging the gravity of the disease, The Washington Post reported.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Perotista]

Were there no new wars? Perhaps (in part because Trump did Putin's bidding), There was still Trump's assisination of the Iranian 2nd in command however which killed Canadian Citizens on a side note. Was the Economy solid? Yea, but Trump screwed that up by bungling Covid. However, there's no doubt about this part, so spare me on the Peace points.
From the horse's mouth, Trump didn't want to act that way. And, yea, if re elected, it would be even more of a dysfunctional drama in real time, just like The WWE.
Why is this ok Republicans? Give me "Boring Joe" any day.

On Day 1,001, Trump Made It Clear: Being ‘Presidential’ Is Boring (Published 2019)

If he acted “presidential,” Mr. Trump said Thursday night in Dallas, “everybody would be out of here so fast.”

www.nytimes.com

It isn’t Trumpsters that bother me. They only make up around 30% of the electorate. Not enough to come close to winning an election. So why is Trump leading in the polls?

Two candidate race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

Five way race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...24/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein

Hint – Candidates matter.

 

[Flaming Capitalist]

Also, what about the protests and the rioting in 2020 that he completely failed to control?

What about his three convictions that MAGA morons refuse to acknowledge?

Trump Admits Misusing Charity Funds, Settles Lawsuit Against Trump Foundation That He Said He Wouldn’t Settle
President Donald Trump must personally pay $2 million in fines because he illegally used his charity to benefit his 2016 candidacy. A state judge in New York delivered the judgment on Thursday afternoon. The judicially-assessed penalty must be paid to a number of nonprofit organizations in the Empire State.

Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M
NEW YORK (AP) — A jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House.

Donald Trump found liable for fraud in New York civil case
NEW YORK, Sept 26 (Reuters) - A New York judge found Donald Trump and his family business fraudulently inflated the value of his properties and other assets, in a major defeat for the former U.S. president that could severely hamper his ability to do business in the state.

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

What about his three convictions that MAGA morons refuse to acknowledge?

Trump Admits Misusing Charity Funds, Settles Lawsuit Against Trump Foundation That He Said He Wouldn’t Settle
President Donald Trump must personally pay $2 million in fines because he illegally used his charity to benefit his 2016 candidacy. A state judge in New York delivered the judgment on Thursday afternoon. The judicially-assessed penalty must be paid to a number of nonprofit organizations in the Empire State.

Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M
NEW YORK (AP) — A jury found Donald Trump liable Tuesday for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996, awarding her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House.

Donald Trump found liable for fraud in New York civil case
NEW YORK, Sept 26 (Reuters) - A New York judge found Donald Trump and his family business fraudulently inflated the value of his properties and other assets, in a major defeat for the former U.S. president that could severely hamper his ability to do business in the state.

You and I and everyone knows they don't care. Simply do not care. Period.

#1: Hem haw cough cough everybody does it.

#2: Nah, she's lying.

#3: Everybody does it.