Trial starts for Arizona border rancher charged with killing migrant on his property

[SNOWFLAKE]

March 22, 2024

PHOENIX (AP) — An Arizona rancher went on trial Friday in the fatal shooting of a migrant on his property near Mexico as the national debate over border security heats up ahead of this year's presidential election.

George Alan Kelly, 75, has been charged with second-degree murder in the killing of a man he encountered on his property outside Nogales, Arizona. The jury trial in Santa Cruz County Superior Court is expected to last up to a month.

Kelly had earlier rejected a plea deal that would have reduced the charge to one count of negligent homicide if he pleaded guilty.

He was arrested and charged last year in the Jan. 30, 2023, fatal shooting of 48-year-old Gabriel Cuen-Buitimea of adjacent Nogales, Mexico, just south of the border.

Kelly shot at a group of unarmed migrants who were walking through his nearly 170-acre (69-hectare) cattle ranch in the Kino Springs area, and Cuen-Buitimea was among them, authorities said.

Prosecutors have said Kelly recklessly fired an AK-47 rifle toward the migrants, who were about 100 yards (90 meters) away from him. Kelly was also armed with a handgun.

“I want you to consider Gabriel Cuen-Buitimea as a human being, and not as George Kelly described him — an animal,” Santa Cruz County Chief Deputy Attorney Kim Hunley told jurors on Friday.

Trial starts for Arizona border rancher charged with killing migrant on his property

The shooting sparked strong political feelings about border security issues.

www.courthousenews.com

Gee, I wonder where Kelly got the idea to call a migrant an animal? Hard to imagine WHERE he would have picked up that kind of language. Anyone here have any idea where Kelly might have picked up that idea?

 

[Ishm]

The worst part of this is that the ugly half of America will be cheering for the killer. There truly is a sickness in the US about murdering people.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

The worst part of this is that the ugly half of America will be cheering for the killer. There truly is a sickness in the US about murdering people.

I wouldn't say half. Maybe a third. A third that thinks vermin need to be rounded up. Or in the case of Kelly, shot.

 

[Phys251]

March 22, 2024

Trial starts for Arizona border rancher charged with killing migrant on his property

The shooting sparked strong political feelings about border security issues.

www.courthousenews.com

Gee, I wonder where Kelly got the idea to call a migrant an animal? Hard to imagine WHERE he would have picked up that kind of language. Anyone here have any idea where Kelly might have picked up that idea?

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The only animal here is this killer.

 

[Superfly]

Look at him. Miserable crotchety old bastard. $5 says he has Trump memorabilia laying around his house.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Anyone ever thought that if the government would do the job it's supposed to do at the border these things would not be happening.

 

[anatta]

I wouldn't say half. Maybe a third. A third that thinks vermin need to be rounded up. Or in the case of Kelly, shot.

varmints. not vermin

 

[LostInSeattle]

Anyone ever thought that if the government would do the job it's supposed to do at the border these things would not be happening.

The migrants were 100 yards away and headed back to Mexico. They sound really threatening. And according to the story, they were headed back to the border because of an encounter with the Border Patrol. So I guess the government was doing its job.

Have you ever considered that if Trump and border state governors like Abbott didn't constantly dehumanize migrants that maybe crazy armed ****wads wouldn't be so eager to start shooting in their direction?

 

[Grand Mal]

varmints. not vermin

Do you not know that 'varmints'is a mispronunciation of 'vermin'?

 

[anatta]

Do you not know that 'varmints'is a mispronunciation of 'vermin'?

Good point, but they have different meanings in that varmints aren't pestilence .
definition: a troublesome wild animal.

 

[Integrityrespec]

The migrants were 100 yards away and headed back to Mexico. They sound really threatening. And according to the story, they were headed back to the border because of an encounter with the Border Patrol. So I guess the government was doing its job.

Have you ever considered that if Trump and border state governors like Abbott didn't constantly dehumanize migrants that maybe crazy armed ****wads wouldn't be so eager to start shooting in their direction?

Were they in the country illegally? Were they tresspassing? Are there not plenty of accounts of illegals breaking into homes, and accounts of violence?

Increased Illegal Immigration Brings Increased Crime: Almost 2/3 of Federal Arrests Involve Noncitizens

Customs and Border Protection encountered over 275,000 illegal aliens crossing our borders nationwide in April alone, setting a distressing precedent for increased illegal entries under the Biden administration.

www.heritage.org

 

[Superfly]

Anyone ever thought that if the government would do the job it's supposed to do at the border these things would not be happening.

Ask the GOP-led House. Maybe they can answer the question of why they backed out of the border bill.

 

[LostInSeattle]

Were they in the country illegally?

Yes.

Were they tresspassing?

Yes.

Are there not plenty of accounts of illegals breaking into homes, and accounts of violence?

Were they doing that? No. They were a football field away, heading back to Mexico. They were unarmed. They weren't looting or swarming the guy's house.

When you dehumanize people it makes it easier to pull the trigger. This shooter was probably wound up on fear and loathing. It certainly seems that way from what I read. And then there are folks like Trump and Abbott who just want to stoke those fears and prejudices because, you know, MAGA.

Increased Illegal Immigration Brings Increased Crime: Almost 2/3 of Federal Arrests Involve Noncitizens

Customs and Border Protection encountered over 275,000 illegal aliens crossing our borders nationwide in April alone, setting a distressing precedent for increased illegal entries under the Biden administration.

www.heritage.org

Ye

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

The only animal here is this killer.

Guess you haven't heard a certain politician calling migrants "animals".

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Anyone ever thought that if the government would do the job it's supposed to do at the border these things would not be happening.

Since the government isn't doing their job, some citizen has the right to execute any migrant he chooses?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Were they in the country illegally? Were they tresspassing? Are there not plenty of accounts of illegals breaking into homes, and accounts of violence?

Increased Illegal Immigration Brings Increased Crime: Almost 2/3 of Federal Arrests Involve Noncitizens

Customs and Border Protection encountered over 275,000 illegal aliens crossing our borders nationwide in April alone, setting a distressing precedent for increased illegal entries under the Biden administration.

www.heritage.org

So, that makes it ok to shoot them on sight?
OR, is this one of your deflections. Let's NOT talk about this heinous individual, let's change the subject.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Yes.

Yes.

Were they doing that? No. They were a football field away, heading back to Mexico. They were unarmed. They weren't looting or swarming the guy's house.

When you dehumanize people it makes it easier to pull the trigger. This shooter was probably wound up on fear and loathing. It certainly seems that way from what I read. And then there are folks like Trump and Abbott who just want to stoke those fears and prejudices because, you know, MAGA.

Ye

He doesn't want to talk about THIS story, so he wants to divert us to his soapbox.

 

[Torus34]

The de-humanizing of 'them' is something I've heard before. Having been around for a long time, I believe I first heard it in a different language: untermenschen. [Ed.: If you stick around long enough, things of the past resurface. The trench coat's about ready to make another appearance on coat racks.]

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

[LostInSeattle]

The de-humanizing of 'them' is something I've heard before. Having been around for a long time, I believe I first heard it in a different language: untermenschen. [Ed.: If you stick around long enough, things of the past resurface. The trench coat's about ready to make another appearance on coat racks.]

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

Actually "untermenschen" means "sub-human" or "less than fully human." It refers to a lesser race of people. Trump has called migrants "not even people."

Donald Trump Says He Thinks Some Migrants Are 'Animals' And 'Not People'

The former president again claimed, without evidence, that other countries are sending criminals to the U.S. border.

www.huffpost.com

Even Hitler recognized Jews and Slavs as human beings, albeit ones to enslave, brutalize and murder.

 

[Paradoxical]

March 22, 2024

Trial starts for Arizona border rancher charged with killing migrant on his property

The shooting sparked strong political feelings about border security issues.

www.courthousenews.com

Gee, I wonder where Kelly got the idea to call a migrant an animal? Hard to imagine WHERE he would have picked up that kind of language. Anyone here have any idea where Kelly might have picked up that idea?

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Marxists? Socialists, Liberals?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

March 22, 2024

Trial starts for Arizona border rancher charged with killing migrant on his property

The shooting sparked strong political feelings about border security issues.

www.courthousenews.com

Gee, I wonder where Kelly got the idea to call a migrant an animal? Hard to imagine WHERE he would have picked up that kind of language. Anyone here have any idea where Kelly might have picked up that idea?

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Kelly deserves to be locked up for the rest of his miserable bigot life.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Anyone ever thought that if the government would do the job it's supposed to do at the border these things would not be happening.

No excuse for cold blooded murder.

Were they in the country illegally? Were they tresspassing? Are there not plenty of accounts of illegals breaking into homes, and accounts of violence?

Increased Illegal Immigration Brings Increased Crime: Almost 2/3 of Federal Arrests Involve Noncitizens

Customs and Border Protection encountered over 275,000 illegal aliens crossing our borders nationwide in April alone, setting a distressing precedent for increased illegal entries under the Biden administration.

www.heritage.org

Again, no excuse for cold blooded murder.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Do you not know that 'varmints'is a mispronunciation of 'vermin'?

Of course @anatta doesn't.

 

[Uriah]

March 22, 2024

Trial starts for Arizona border rancher charged with killing migrant on his property

The shooting sparked strong political feelings about border security issues.

www.courthousenews.com

Gee, I wonder where Kelly got the idea to call a migrant an animal? Hard to imagine WHERE he would have picked up that kind of language. Anyone here have any idea where Kelly might have picked up that idea?

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Perhaps he read news reports about Illegals murdering innocent American women.

 

[MSgt]

The worst part of this is that the ugly half of America will be cheering for the killer. There truly is a sickness in the US about murdering people.

Nah, not half. It took more than half of the country to fire Trump in 2020. At least use that to cling to some optimism for what America still is and still perseveres to be.