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The looming GOP civil war -- whether Mitt wins or not

Fisher said:
I think your next minority candidate to win the nomination will be on the GOP side and either a woman or Hispanic/Cuban
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I would agree with that prediction.


I would add, that the candidate will also be a very heavily vetted true conservative. There won't be another Mancurian Candidate Socialist in denial.
 
Fiddytree said:
I don't know about that, because it seems like a controversial sell to bring up fiscal conservatism when you think of the Tea Partiers, Paul Ryan, and many others.
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Paul Ryan and Tea Partying types are also social conservatives. I would argue that social conservativism is more likely to repel moderates than fiscal conservativism, every time.
 
When the democrats get rid of liberals like Obama, the tea party will die a quiet death. Both parties need to come back to the middle some.
 
jerry7 said:
Why is the fact that the far left has taken over the democratic party never talked about?
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How I wish that were true, but it isn't. When the Democrats start trying to win over the Greens then that will carry some more weight.
 
jdxprs said:
When the democrats get rid of liberals like Obama, the tea party will die a quiet death. Both parties need to come back to the middle some.
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Right and restate all of the jim crow laws. Man you are whistling dixie..:roll:
 
Boo Radley said:
Last poll, he was losing Iowa. He needs to be concern with the electorial count. ;)
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Do you know the difference between the two words and how they're being used? And anyway, there are all kindss of polls out there changing daily. If the MSM was coving the Benghazi ****up we all know where the votes would be going. If this had happened to Bush the font size was cover half the front page of every newspaper through the election.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
Right and restate all of the jim crow laws. Man you are whistling dixie..:roll:
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You obviously don't know your history. The republicans were against the Jim Crow laws BEFORE the democrats were. Those who don't know history, are doomed to repeat it.
 
American said:
Do you know the difference between the two words and how they're being used? And anyway, there are all kindss of polls out there changing daily. If the MSM was coving the Benghazi ****up we all know where the votes would be going. If this had happened to Bush the font size was cover half the front page of every newspaper through the election.
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So, Would you like some cheese with your whine?:2wave:
 
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jdxprs said:
You obviously don't know your history. The republicans were against the Jim Crow laws BEFORE the democrats were. Those who don't know history, are doomed to repeat it.
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It's a completely different party now. Your premise is total fail. It is like calling Germany, Nazi Germany.

Didn't they teach you about social evolution in school?
 
Morality Games said:
There probably be no civil war. Any strains of popular Tea Party-style conservatism that get into Congress will be quickly tamed by the "moderates."

How the GOP copes with its shrinking electorate I'm not sure.
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I'm not so sure that there will be enough moderates to tame the teas. They seem to be dwindling.
 
American said:
I could say that about the Democratic Party, so what? You know as well as I do that your Jim Crow argument is bull****.
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t's not an arguement. It's a fact, because I said so.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
It's a completely different party now. Your premise is total fail. It is like calling Germany, Nazi Germany.

Didn't they teach you about social evolution in school?
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Just because people that were for the Jim Crow laws joined the republican party eventually, doesn't mean the rest of the original republicans that were against those laws left the party. Republicans are more responsible for the advancement of black people in this country than democrats. When republicans are in control, historically, african americans have had a better standard of living than when democrats are in power. THAT IS A FACT.
 
jdxprs said:
Just because people that were for the Jim Crow laws joined the republican party eventually, doesn't mean the rest of the original republicans that were against those laws left the party. Republicans are more responsible for the advancement of black people in this country than democrats. When republicans are in control, historically, african americans have had a better standard of living than when democrats are in power. THAT IS A FACT.
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They did not leave he party. They died!

I am sure that if you took a poll among african americans that they would not agree with your, so called, fact.
 
American said:
Do you know the difference between the two words and how they're being used? And anyway, there are all kindss of polls out there changing daily. If the MSM was coving the Benghazi ****up we all know where the votes would be going. If this had happened to Bush the font size was cover half the front page of every newspaper through the election.
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It was a Des Monies Register poll. As for the faux coverup, you need actually evidence and not wild eyed partisan wishing. Just saying . . . . . :coffeepap
 
LiberalAvenger said:
They did not leave he party. They died!

I am sure that if you took a poll among african americans that they would not agree with your, so called, fact.
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That's their fault for blindly following democrats rather than taking the time to learn the truth.
 
LiberalAvenger said:
How can they learn the truth after they died?
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i was talking about your comment on polling african americans.

either way, im done with this conversation. no offense, but i think liberals should have run out of race cards by now.
 
jdxprs said:
i was talking about your comment on polling african americans.

either way, im done with this conversation. no offense, but i think liberals should have run out of race cards by now.
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You played the first card then you lost.
 
I think the tea party influence is overrated. How else do you explain Romney being nominated as the republican candidate.
 
GarzaUK said:
The looming GOP civil war -- whether Mitt wins or not - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

Just thought I would post this interesting article. IMO it has been coming since the rise of the Tea Party, the struggle within the GOP between the pragmatists (moderates) and the idealists (far-right, social conservatives). Can a party as idealogically at odds as the GOP survive in a 21st century climate? How can the GOP start winning over Latinos, non-christains, non-believers and African Americans (demographics that are on the rise)?
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They could start by recruiting these demographics into congress.

In the United States Senate, in both parties, there are ZERO African-Americans. Two Hispanic. Two Asian. In the United States House of Representatives, there are 44 African-Americans, 25 Hispanic, 7 Asian, 1 American Indian.

In the House, there are currently 362 men and 76 women. In the Senate, there are 17 women and 83 men.

ThisNation.com--The U.S. Congress Quick Facts
 
GarzaUK said:
The looming GOP civil war -- whether Mitt wins or not - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

Just thought I would post this interesting article. IMO it has been coming since the rise of the Tea Party, the struggle within the GOP between the pragmatists (moderates) and the idealists (far-right, social conservatives). Can a party as idealogically at odds as the GOP survive in a 21st century climate? How can the GOP start winning over Latinos, non-christains, non-believers and African Americans (demographics that are on the rise)?
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So the civil war is within the party?
 
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