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Yeah, those dang ole socialist forefathers! LOL!
Well, the income tax wasn't their idea, so...
Yeah, those dang ole socialist forefathers! LOL!
Well, the income tax wasn't their idea, so...
The whiskey tax was though
Well, the income tax wasn't their idea, so...
can you find a ruling where the "general welfare clause" was found to be an empowering clause? do you understand the concept?
nah you aren't you are a statist.
If you do not find it to be an empowering clause take it up with the courts.
Or do you not believe in the rule of law?
You say that like its a bad thang! :mrgreen:
you already made that silly point before and it clearly shows you are clueless about constitutional jurisprudence
educate us as to what university awarded you a degree in law.:mrgreen:
do you even know what an empowering clause is or what the tenth amendment says?
I've not heard of the term empowering clause, but I would reason that its meaning is similar to an enabling clause that means a provision in a new law that legally enables its creation.
The tenth amendment, often cited by the Tenthers, that powers not granted to the federal government under the Constitution are held by the states.
Now, that I have answered your questions, would you answer my question that you have avoided twice now ~
Do you believe in the rule of law? Do you know what it means?
of course I do and as a free man I have a right to discuss rapes of the law by congress.
Thanks, there for a while, I thought you were implying there was something illegal going on.
Why do you claim to be a conservative? That is intellectually dishonest
Well I am a liberal as envisioned by Locke, Rousseau and the Founders. I believe in liberty and progress is a move towards less government, less dependency, and less parasites
Good for you!
of course I do and as a free man I have a right to discuss rapes of the law by congress.
Why do you claim to be a conservative? That is intellectually dishonest
That's funnny.It is perfectly honest. I am a conservative by the definition of the root term:
to keep in a safe or sound state <he conserved his inheritance>; especially : to avoid wasteful or destructive use of <conserve natural resources>
Conserve - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Well I am a liberal as envisioned by Locke, Rousseau and the Founders. I believe in liberty and progress is a move towards less government, less dependency, and less parasites
Thank you, I could not agree more.........:applaud
Thanks-thus in your case conservative would be anti freedom, pro dependency, pro parasite:mrgreen:
I guess some people see conserving our natural resources for future generations that way.
where do you get the idea that tax hikes will actually increase tax revenues?
where do you get the idea that tax hikes will actually increase tax revenues?
Just about any fair-minded observation of history and economics would reach this conclusion. And the nonpartisan CBO also agrees, with a few caveats.
Just about any fair-minded observation of history and economics would reach this conclusion. And the nonpartisan CBO also agrees, with a few caveats.
This something-for-nothing mentality, that you can cut taxes AND have higher revenue, may be true under rare exceptions (such as unusually high tax rates)...but in general it has caused high deficits for 30 years.
really? so given our current economy where many economists (I mean the real ones, not those in ivory towers but those who actually aren't living off of government grants) claim the expiration of the Bush tax normalization after the clinton hikes will cause a double dip recession?