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Rumor has it dismal ratings = big shake up at MSNBC

iliveonramen said:
"Liberals" didn't...otherwise they would of watched the shows. Fox News is popular because it's insanely popular with conservatives.
5 facts about Fox News | Pew Research Center

60% of Fox news watchers call themselves conservative and 23% moderate with 10% Liberal.
CNN is 32% conservative, 30% moderate, and 30% liberal)
MSNBC is (32% conservative, 23% moderate, 36% liberal).

Personally since the poll depends on self identification I would bet that a lot of those moderates lean heavily conservative for Fox news and lean heavily liberal for MSNBC, or Typically Republican voters or Democratic voters.

I just don't think Liberals like the format. 27 million unique listeners tune into at least one NPR show a week. That's why I think NPR is more representative of what Liberals want in a news show.
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I think more people would watch if their hosts were so rabidly partisan. I like fox, for example, but I never watch Hannity. He is too hyper-partisan on the right. MSNBC hosts are just unwatchable hyper-partisans on the left.
 
Ockham said:
I'm not seeing lesbian hate speech. I'm seeing a statement that compares Hays and Maddow which as I said, makes sense since Hayes apprenticed with Maddow. :shrug:
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Their styles of delivery are quite different so you claim is bogus on its face.
 
Fletch said:
I think more people would watch if their hosts were so rabidly partisan. I like fox, for example, but I never watch Hannity. He is too hyper-partisan on the right. MSNBC hosts are just unwatchable hyper-partisans on the left.
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I'm guessing you meant "weren't so rabidly partisan" because I agree with you.
 
pbrauer said:
Their styles of delivery are quite different so you claim is bogus on its face.
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No one said their styles were the same.... nice
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btw. Of course their styles would be different they are two different people.
 
Ockham said:
No one said their styles were the same.... nice
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btw. Of course their styles would be different they are two different people.
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I know they are different, one is male and the other is female. But YOU wrote: "I'm seeing a statement that compares Hays and Maddow." So how can you compare them and make sense saying they are different?
 
tres borrachos said:
I missed him saying that! I was laughing too hard at him shutting those idiots down. I watched it live (I seldom miss his show) and was thinking OMG, he interrupted them - Eugene's gonna be pissed. Actually some of the regular Liberals on there agree with him on some issues. I'm always surprised when I'm on the same side of the fence as Donny Deutsch, Ed Rendell, and some others. I can always count on being on the opposite side from that simpleton Howard Dean and that little sniveling Steve Rattner, who I believe was on the set on the day of the bitch slapping. He HATES it when Joe criticizes Obama.
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When you have a republican hosting and in charge of a discussion program, liberals tend to modify their political rhetoric and embrace more honesty and truth. When it's a liberal host on a liberal dominated panel, the BS runs rampid.

Bob Beckel on The Five is a good example of a liberal who's far more honest on that show, than he is with liberal hosts.
 
iliveonramen said:
I don't like MSNBC. It's too much commentary and it strikes me as tabloid journalism, as does CNN, as does Fox. I don't like 24 hour news channels except for specific programming, such as Up with Steve Kornacki. I think I may be representative of people with my lean because obviously liberals don't rush home to watch MSNBC or the ratings would be much higher.
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I guess we'd need to see the market research, but in my small world, my right wing friends are mostly news junkies, and they all watch Fox News. My gay brother hangs with a very liberal crowd in San Diego, and I've never seen his TV on news of any kind - in fact his crowd watches little TV. My fairly liberal mother watches the News Hour, that's about it - NPR during the day. I couldn't tell you where to find cable news on my home system - we turn it on when our inlaws come to visit. NEVER in between visits except maybe in some kind of crisis. It's all like fingernails on a chalk board to me.

Anyway, I'd love to see the market research on that. Your premise is certainly consistent with the anecdotal evidence in my experience though.

I did find this article: Political Polarization & Media Habits | Pew Research Center's Journalism Project

Bottom line is about half of conservatives cite Fox as their primary source of news. Liberals don't have any outlet higher than 15% (CNN) with MSNBC at 12%.

Conservatives also don't trust any outlet not on the far right wing. Liberals tend to trust outlets except those on the far right wing. Pretty fascinating. The only outlet trusted by both sides was the WSJ.... with a far right wing editorial page.
 
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11Bravo said:
I accidentally watch it a lot. I love watching MSNBC's show "Lockup" (only show on that channel I like), and sometimes i fall asleep with the TV on and wake up to a rerun of the previous day's Al Sharpton show.
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From dreaming to a nightmare... lol
 
Grim17 said:
When you have a republican hosting and in charge of a discussion program, liberals tend to modify their political rhetoric and embrace more honesty and truth. When it's a liberal host on a liberal dominated panel, the BS runs rampid.

Bob Beckel on The Five is a good example of a liberal who's far more honest on that show, than he is with liberal hosts.
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There is nothing better than a great BIG generalization from Grim. LMMFAO
 
iliveonramen said:
For sure, House of Cards later this month. I'm really looking forward to Daredevil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK1mrTQd8D0
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I started watching that show and was liking it until midway through the first season. When they portrayed the wife as nothing more than a political call girl, and introduced his homosexual tendencies, it lost it's appeal for me. I wanted a "inside Washington, dirty deeds politics" type of a show, not another drama about sexual proclivities and dysfunction.
 
Unrepresented said:
Meh. Liberals get bored hearing talking points repeated. They tend to already know what they believe without tuning in to confirmation bias news networks.
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Lol, no liberals are watching MTV.
 
pbrauer said:
I know they are different, one is male and the other is female. But YOU wrote: "I'm seeing a statement that compares Hays and Maddow." So how can you compare them and make sense saying they are different?
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They also have different views on issues - the point, the 3rd time and perhaps this time it will sink in, is that Hayes apprenticed under Maddow.
 
Ockham said:
They also have different views on issues - the point, the 3rd time and perhaps this time it will sink in, is that Hayes apprenticed under Maddow.
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What issues do they disagree on?
 
Grim17 said:
Not bad... not bad at all... Maybe it's liberalism that brings out the unattractiveness in women?
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Or maybe it's conservatism that causes people to judge the value of a news source by its erection inducing capacity.
 
tres borrachos said:
I love his show, but often wonder why he doesn't haul off and punch Mika. That woman is absolutely irritating. She cackles, laughs like a hyena, and contributes nothing. Joe has been standing up to all of those Liberals lately. Last week he bitch slapped Eugene Robinson & Sam Stein, 2 absolute clowns.
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OMG, his voice... wtf! and those ****ing aviator goggles he wears :lamo
 
pbrauer said:
I know she's a lesbian, I am not the one who has to "get over it" its the people who hate lesbians who needs to.
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Can't stand Maddow but love Lesbian Porn :peace
 
Grim17 said:
When in the 25-54 key demo, the star of your network (Rachel Maddow) is only pulling in half the ratings of CNN, and only a quarter that of Fox, it's inevitable that heads are going to roll.

I have to wonder though, just as the writer of the article did, when is MSNBC going to wake up and realize that liberals spewing hate just isn't appealing to the general public and their attempt at being the "Air America" of cable TV has failed just as miserably as Air America did?




Report: MSNBC's Hayes, Farrow and Reid On Chopping Block | The Daily Caller
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Perhaps they need to bring back Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham :peace
 
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