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You're losing ground, fast.
Perhaps you should try addressing my points rather than making little off topic jabs. :2wave:
You're losing ground, fast.
I never said that the bill said anything about death panels. I did, however, ask numerous times what was meant by the language of the bill sayin that, "the scretary would give an order for the sustainment of life", and never got an answer.
Perhaps you should try addressing my points rather than making little off topic jabs. :2wave:
So, that makes it ok that this bill won't prevent it?
Aren't the people who aren't paying for health care the whole argument for passing this bill?
No such phrase in HR3200, nor one on any similar wording. Now I do remember you blowing a gasket about a secretary reference, but it was over something silly. Please feel free to find the reference you are referring to in the bill and we can hold your hand and explain it to you. Make sure you include where in the bill it is.
I've addressed every comment you've made. You're unable to support any of them.
You're losing ground, fast.
Section 1233 of HR3200 has that exact language. Look it up.
We are all paying for HC of illegals every day in the ER of all hospitals. It will always be impossible to weed them out of HC entirely unless we authorize hospitals to let people die if they don't have proper paperwork.
Are we willing to do that?
I could care less what you think. However, you felt the need to reply to a quote that wasn't even directed at you and make an idiotic little jab. Once again, you are treading off topic by discussing me rather than the topic at hand. If you don't like my views I suggest you either ignore them or keep your comments on topic. Thanks. :2wave:
Perhaps you should look in a mirror and say those exact words and start to live by them.
We are all paying for HC of illegals every day in the ER of all hospitals. It will always be impossible to weed them out of HC entirely unless we authorize hospitals to let people die if they don't have proper paperwork.
Are we willing to do that?
Let's be grown-ups & face a few facts:
1. Sealing our borders will never be possible
2. We consider ourselves moral human beings
Therefore:
Unless we are willing to allow thousands of innocent children to starve/die we are stuck with providing HC, just like we already do every day.
Once again treading off topic. I'll repeat myself just in case you didn't comprehend it last time. If you don't like my views, ignore them. If you are going to reply, please stay on topic rather than resorting to personal attacks. It makes your debate style look weak that you have to resort to such tactics when you've run out of legitimate things to say.
There is where the health care reform needs to start. perhaps, if we weren't spending millions of dollars every year on free health care for illegal aliens, health care costs would go down, thereby lowering insurance costs.
The same goes for you, sir.
How do you propose we do it?...Be specific please.
I'm not resorting to personal attacks, sir. Nice try, though.
Nor did, I sir.
There is where the health care reform needs to start. perhaps, if we weren't spending millions of dollars every year on free health care for illegal aliens, health care costs would go down, thereby lowering insurance costs.
Could you two please take this to PM?Um...actually, yeah you did. You may want to read back a bit.