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Justice being done isn't the issue!
I agree with you.....and not with the War on Terror.
Justice being done isn't the issue!
Well.....as a community activist. He wasn't about bringing people together. Just sayin.
Once he released those 5 Taliban......he increased the risk of all our people and businesses overseas. That includes any hostages that were in Captivity.
Looking to just use the FBI to track them down.....and get them back home. Seems a Waste to me.
Fine. After this conflict, can we all agree that decades of failed policy including support of jihadist groups has caused the fighting we've been involved in, and has created much of the hate for America. No, that won't happen, far too few people are willing to admit this fact. Did you know that 55 years ago Eisenhower commissioned his NST to produce a report on why it is that the people of the Middle East hate America so? And did you know that their report fingered US policies in the region, like the CIA sponsored coup that overthrew the elected government of Iran, installing the Shah? If America doesn't stop ****ing with these people, one of these days they will succeed.
Interestingly enough, it was Eisenhower's doctrine that was a complete disaster. Supporting, or not supporting countries based upon his feeling of whether or not they leaned toward communism rather then on there own merits.
I agree, but that is far easier said than done:
ISIS is basically a bunch of fanatics riding around in Mad Max modified nissan pick up trucks. They can be very hard to find when mixed in urban areas- and ISIS is very aware of drones, cell phone tracing, and laser guided bombs.
But then BO didn't follow up Juniors regime change plans, as you say. Otherwise we would have seen such take place with Libya. There was no end game and that's why Libya is the way it is.
Also you do tend to forget those other allies and what they do to cause US involvement and what happens when they cause a vacuum to take place.
Heya ML.Well truthfully BO peep has never been one for smack talk. He couldn't handle it on the street so I doubt he can handle it anywhere else. Even in Diplomacy.
And that unfortunately completely removes intelligence gathering from the equation.
Now look at the captured comparison. Obama would rather kill them because detaining them doesn't fit his narrative.
Btw, Neocons must be, IMO, loving the beheading...just gives America another excuse to butt into the Middle East.
Suggesting that any American thinks that this barbarous beheading is acceptable--much less that it's great--is contemptible.
Heya Jango. :2wave: Well he does have to take a harder stance now.....especially after the Pope and Rome said ISIS needs to be stopped. How would he look if he didn't?
I guess Bush would have climbed into the cockpit of a fighter.
Once the little liberals see their own homes burned they will see the world in a different light begging the right to protect them.
We need to be ready & available in a moment's notice to operate, not do the indecisive game like we did with al Qaeda & OBL pre-9/11.
Whats funny is most of the left don't think these Terrorists are moving Westward. Yet Ansar al Sharia has sprung up from Yemen to Libya. Oh and now BO has put us back into Somalia. Go figure.
Either way.....I still think he should have looked into that camera and told that One Terrorist. With what you did.....Were coming for you. There is no place you can hide.
The killing of an American reporter is galvanizing international anger at ISIS extremists and fuelling fears about the flow of foreign fighters joining their ranks.
Sadly, the folks running the show have horrible memories. We treated AQ in the same fashion for decades and that certainly bit us in the butt. This scum needs to be wiped from the face of the planet.
Yeah the wrong one. To Top it off.
Why is everything based on what the other party does?
@MMC makes a comment which goes undisputed, with the equalizer a version of "they do it too." By that logic, both sides wallow in a sewage filled gutter but its OK because the other guys do it. The moral logic of that is lugubriously still born.
For five and a half years, every criticism of Obama, and there have been many legitimate ones, has at one point been met with a version of Bush [either one], Reagan, or Romney did it too; even Obamacare that The One was so proud of in the debate, became "Romneycare" when things turned ugly and 27 million people lost their plan.
Isn't the aim of progressives to make progress? How can that happen when the base is the worst of what the predecessor got away with?
As a staunch Liberal and libertarian, I support much of what the US non-progressive movement claims to support, but I have to say my respect lies with what Obama has termed his "enemies", the American right. I do not see the same misdirection and blame shifting and while some of the goals they seek are repulsive to me, I at least know where they stand, an impossibility with a movement whose leader is a pathological liar and his supporters best defense is "bush did it too."
The American left is about as "progressive" as a neanderthal's idea of what is good to eat.
In other words, they lost.
They whole point of George Bush going in was to shut down the safe haven thing and kill all the terrorists. Now, you confirm there are more terrorists than ever before, and that they now have two countries from which to operate.
I really want to see the Obamaheads put a "win" on this one.
True enough. That's because following in Bush's footsteps Obama has practiced and ratcheted up regime change, which directly gives room for jihadists to blossom. And then there's Bush's drone program which Obama energized and is causing more hatred for America with its high ratio of innocent civilian deaths. Why is it American for you to criticize Obama and blame his policies for the rise in terrorist activity in the ME, but anti-American when I point out that both parties are responsible for power vacuums filled by jihadists and hatred for America due to our poor policies for years now???
NY Post said it best, It is time to bomb ISIS.
Well you don think the Neo Cons will say anything do you? Seems Coburn didn't have any trouble pointing it out.
You probably miss my point. For pointing out that the right does it too, is not intended as an excuse for failed policy from the left. I'm not a partisan, and as such, I don't run cover for either party. My concern is that partisans on the right made excuses for things Bush did that were wrong, and all the while, partisans on the left were raising hell about it. Now then, we have partisans on the left excusing and justifying things that Obama has done that is wrong, while partisans on the right are raising hell. This is the way it ALWAYS works. Point........... If people were Americans first and a party to the smart ass and dumb elephant second, and as such held ALL presidents accountable, we'd see sound policy. But that will never happen.