The pressure, the WH is putting on Arizona´s governor is ruthless. The governor will not call, the state National Guard because "Arizona doesn't have any money". The governor wants the feds to pay for it, and/or send troops. She knows damn well, the feds will not send jack****
It appears that way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpyrlX52TwA
You have the right to secure your borders, but not to gun down innocent civillians who cross the border in a desperate attempt for a better life. Yeah it sucks, and it shouldn't happen, but killing is not the answer... it raises the stakes, and violence will be met with violence, and more people will die.
Ok, give them the ROE fire only if fired on. The areas of arizona are not closed off to AMERICANS because of a bunch of kids running around... we're talking about DRUG and HUMAN traffickers. Guys with GUNS selling COKE in these parks.
Are we going to 'cede' the land back to mexico?? Yes there's the desperate people, but 1000's of people per day crossing over, let's say 400 of them are fighting age males. That turns into a battallion every month.
They want a better life, they can :
a - Start a revolution in their own country to depose the scumbags down there
b - Go through the legal process of immigration
I have NO problems with people of any race, color creed... I don't mind people visiting, I'm absolutely color blind in that sense. I DO have a problem with people that come here illegally, don't pay taxes but enjoy the services. End of Story.
Now when you have people SHOOTING AT and KILLING americans and they are coming in 1000's per day... that's an INVASION, of ILLEGAL immigrants... frankly, by Obama NOT dealing with this complete disregard for the sovereignty of this country... I almost think that borders on TREASONOUS activity, certainly IMPEACHABLE in that he's acting negligently on the subject.
I don't know what the answer is... but if you wanna send marines to the border to play Rambo, you better be ready for all the consequences...
I know that there'd be consequences... BUT, wars are MEANT to be against people INVADING your country... NOT off in some distant land because you're trying to get resources.
Another example of conservatives grossly exaggerating what liberals think. Hear it often enough and you actually start to think it's true!
Ok, then what's your PLAN to DEAL with 10000's of thousands coming into the country illegally every month??? What do you plan to do to stem the flow of drugs??? Are you ok with these drug lords using women and children as veritable human shields??
Now, who is willing to sign up. Sign up, to kill women and children because thats what it will take to stop the leaky faucet
I'm not saying run through gunning down all the women and children, but we're talking about lots of ARMED DRUG AND HUMAN SMUGGLERS invading the country 'justified' because there are women and children that are walking along side them???
How many people signed up to kill women and children in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, soon to be Iran, etc.??? How many people signed up to guard opium fields in Afghanistan so that 'taliban doesn't get the profits' (forgetting that it was the TALIBAN that ended poppy production in 2001)??
Now, in that sense I'm ignorant somewhat, I was under the impression that you signed up to serve, not necessarily to choose your tasks??
That said, if I didn't know that I would end up in Iraq or Afghanistan or Iran I would actually sign up to get that border into check.
Now... since we all seem to agree that the feds aren't going to do anything about this aside from amnesty (or some amnesty light, since I apparently grossly exaggerate what's wanted), why doesn't he SHERIFF's in these affected country round up the millitia's and say listen "you guys are my deputees while we clean out the scum from this park and send the mexicans back to mexico, whether they like it or not." They are still allowed to do that, right?
When does it end??