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Yes it does, by discouraging people from robbing banks and killing cops. Are you suggesting that teenagers from posting nude pics online is such a heinous act that it should be meted out with criminal penalties just like those other things, in order to discourage it? I would suggest that criminal punishments are appropriate for acts that harm others and are intolerable to society; somebody voluntarily posting pictures of themselves doesn't exactly qualify.
Why the **** do you keep bringing up this strawman? How many times do I have to say it. I am NOT suggesting criminal charges. I am not suggesting prison/jail, or even federal charges. All that I have argued is that the law should be enforced, and under the definition of child porn, it is child porn. I think the most that should happen is probably a cease and deist order the first time. That should work for most minors, unless they are really messed up kids. If you look at the law you can find examples where the law has gone A LOT further, and did press charges on kids.
And you're looking at the legal system ass backwards. If somebody robs a bank or kills a cop, then the government didn't take any steps to make a situation better. A person robbing a bank is bad situation that was not prevented. The government isn't in the business of preventing bad situations or making them better. The government doesn't try to actively prevent bank robbing with community outreaches to would be bank robbers, and try reasoning with them and ask them to not rob banks. The government is simply enforcing the law by punishing them.
Now you might be trying to argue that the government punishing people makes situations better, but I don't see how. If you argue that you'd also be arguing that the threat of punishment prevents other would be bank robbers, cop killers, etc. But I don't agree with that. I don't think the threat of punishment deters criminal activity. Using that logic, the more severe the punishment becomes, the less crime there should be. So if we make the punishment for rob banks more severe then eventually NOBODY would rob a bank, but that isn't necessarily true. We can easily look at an example like the USSR, and see that serve punishments for slightest crimes did not lead to no crime there. It ended up creating a lot of abuse and punishment where it was unnecessary.
You simply can't make the statement like... the government and legal system are here to make situations better... and not try to defend that statement somehow. It just sounds entirely preposterous.
And so your solution is...to overreact in exactly the same way for ANOTHER "crime" where no one was really harmed?
the strawman appears again...
Right, this is where that common sense thing that I mentioned comes into play. And how it is routinely abandoned in our criminal justice system...ESPECIALLY on this particular subject.
Yeah, you're right. We should just get over kids being in pornography as a society. We are just too uptight and lack common sense... it's just child porn afterall... :shrug:
The legal definition of child porn says it's child porn, and child porn is illegal under US law. That isn't my fault.
How? If they took pictures of themselves and posted them online, no one exploited them. I hardly think that some pervert jacking off to the images in the privacy of his own home qualifies as "exploiting" them.
1. They run the risk of those pictures being exploited.
2. Internet is public domain.
3. Weather or not you subjectively believe those photos are being exploited, it doesn't change the legal definition of child porn.
4. Operating a website with illegal porn is illegal.
I seriously don't understand why it's going over your head... yes, pedophiles like to jack off to child porn. Pointing that out doesn't make a difference.
Owning child porn and trading it is illegal. Jacking off is not illegal.
wtf... do you think child porn should be legal? Do you think it should be legal for pedophiles to own and trade child porn so they can jack of to it?
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