When this is all over with, in the future, there will be no right, and there will certainly be no GOP.
They have sped up their own demise.
Not my problem.
Yet the Republicans in the House can't even get their act together to vote on a clean CR...and you expect reasonable negotiations? The GOP has declared themselves to be a body that won't compromise.
For an example of the mindset, see Tiggers post above. When you have Principles with a Capitol P, you don't negotiate.
That's rich since Harry Reid has refused to compromise an both bills the House passed and the President has vowed to veto any changes to ObamaCare. Sounds to me like neither are talking and neither are willing to compromise and calling out only one side and ignoring the other is partisan convenience. The Republicans have no motivation to provide a clean CR - they, like the American public don't like Obamacare. The GOP is framing the 2014 mid-terms.
Yet the Republicans in the House can't even get their act together to vote on a clean CR...and you expect reasonable negotiations? The GOP has declared themselves to be a body that won't compromise.
For an example of the mindset, see Tiggers post above. When you have Principles with a Capitol P, you don't negotiate.
Yet the Republicans in the House can't even get their act together to vote on a clean CR...and you expect reasonable negotiations? The GOP has declared themselves to be a body that won't compromise.
For an example of the mindset, see Tiggers post above. When you have Principles with a Capitol P, you don't negotiate.
under the constitution the congress holds the purse strings.
and the house is one who holds the greater position for a budget, because the senate cannot pass one if it includes any tax increase.
if the house is not doing its job, them it is up to the voters to decide their fate in 2014.
if such a situation is taking place, then democrats should rejoice prepare for next year.
Again, you're wrong. They are two completely different pieces of legislation, and two entirely separate things.
Fail. The House passed an actual budget. You may or may not remember the last time the Senate managed that - it was before we had an iPad. And a "clean CR" is precisely what I described - a way of locking in Democrat's governance as of 2009/2010 as though the 2010 elections never happened.
They passed a budget they KNEW would be a nonstarter in the Senate. And they have made it clear there will be no compromise. Just look what they did with the last bill, sending another nonstarter to the Senate.
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Here's something for you read. Maybe it will help you get my POV.
The Republican Party, Obamacare, and the government shutdown: The GOP’s suicide strategy.
Better to die for what one believes in than to live in a society which has no Principles, Morals, or Values, shrub.
Better DEAD than RED
Then this nation will no longer have any value, and the last potential bastion of decency in the world will have failed,thereby proving that the entire species of humanity has no more value than the variants of the plague virus.
"Let us never negotiate out of fear, but let us never fear to negotiate." -- JFKNobody who has principles negotiates, regardless of the spelling you use for the word. Principles and Negotiations are antithetical concepts.
This is happening because there is a right and they are tired of what they get from the GOP which is democrat lite. If we are lucky what will emerge is a power in government which will fight the dark force of liberalism.
We are slowly devolving into a country which is no longer exceptional into one that is losing its global ranking in economic freedom, decreasing status globally and not taken seriously by either our friends or enemies. It's time to try something different.We have to suffer through eight years of Obama because the GOP saw fit to run a Rino and a manager in successive elections.
Then the Senate should have amended it, and sent it back, so they could conference on it. Instead they just tabled it.
Obama will be replaced by another Democrat, maybe one who's a little farther to the left.
Get ready to deal with that.
I have no sympathy for the losers on the right who are on the wrong side of every social issue.
Iquanaman, nothing wrong with closing loopholes but what you fail to recognize is that when doing so it is important to have fair taxation for businesses/ corporations to encourage economic growth. Without it, we have no jobs growth. We continue to have people signing up for welfare benefits. This can not be sustained.
Envy is funny.
Whatever, tell that to the old White men who rule the GOP, and are on the wrong side of every social issue in the USA. I'm not impressed.
When you say this you are spitting in your mother and father's faces. Think about it.
"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt.
"Let us never negotiate out of fear, but let us never fear to negotiate." -- JFK
Let us never negotiate out of stupidity, but let us never be too stupid to negotiate.
Obama has finally figured it out: For the House Republicans, "Compromise" means, "I get 98 percent of what I want, and you get... me only calling you a Socialist instead of a Communist."
This is happening because there is a right and they are tired of what they get from the GOP which is democrat lite.If we are lucky what will emerge is a power in government which will fight the dark force of liberalism.
We have to suffer through eight years of Obama because the GOP saw fit to run a Rino and a manager in successive elections. We are slowly devolving into a country which is no longer exceptional into one that is losing its global ranking in economic freedom, decreasing status globally and not taken seriously by either our friends or enemies. It's time to try something different.
They did send it back. In the form of a CR. So the deal is that the GOP needs to get them to move off that by compromising. But as evidenced by Tiggers posts, that's not going to happen with a big chunk of 'principled' TeaPartiers.
If the right is tired now, where will it be after the massive demographic change which strongly supports the Democratic Party hits it and the GOP like a tidal wave?
Think about that a little bit.
Anyone who depends on luck for success will never succeed.
Life doesn't work that way.
"Better days are coming." ~But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
When this is all over with, in the future, there will be no right, and there will certainly be no GOP.
They have sped up their own demise.
Not my problem.
Historically, partisans have predicted the demise of the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Both have always been 100% wrong.
Don't try to guess what will happen in the future based on what has happened in the past. I certainly don't.
Did you ever hear of the Whig Party?
How is it doing in the USA right now?