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Well since you asked.If you think you are able, by all means do.
Bull****, the same groups are using the same flawed arguments from the '60s today verbatim and they are still being talked about, that you consider rebuttle with FACT to be some kind of attack is paranoid at best and dishonest at worst. It's also telling that you would whine about not being able to restrict the rights of others. Secondly, mischaracterizing people who fight for any right is as blatantly false and misleading as it comes. But of course integrity and being correct weren't the goals.Years ago, one could support gun owners rights and still lobby for legislation on the subject. That is no longer possible in this current political environment which has taken a hard right turn. For some - and I say some and not all or even a majority - the First Amendment has supplanted the Second Amendment regarding gun rights in that their devotion and love of firearms is far closer to a religious like fervor based on willful belief than anything else. And right from little many are taught it is dangerous and nonproductive to mess with peoples religious beliefs.
Bull****, the only thing that happened is anti-gun zealots paraded these victims out as a "see, this is why we need........." argument in a sick and sub-human attempt to put the anti-gun agenda above all else including dignity, manners, and human sympathy. You are wrong here.Once upon a time, when we had mass killings in which firearms were involved, rational people discussed it and ideas for legislation were introduced and debated. We just saw three young people slaughtered in Chardon, Ohio and instead of spurring national discussion, those who want to do so are charged with using dead children to promote an agenda which is never identified.
Bull****, there was plenty of civil discussion going on in this thread alone, until people unnamed came in with the same predictable and tired talking points.There simply is no current environment for rational discussion on this topic
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Pure logic fail. It does not matter what anyone sees the right as, it exists whether you like it or not and the writing is clear. Yet another example of you being WRONG. And displaying a severe lack of knowledge of things both firearm and constitutional. Emotional or rhetorical arguments are massive fails when dealing with the BOR.Do you believe that the Second Amendment as it is now seen in the USA is a pure good? Or do you see it as something with a good side and a bad side but where the advantages outweigh the disadvantages?
The **** you are. I have seen nothing at all to indicate you either know about or support the second and neither has anyone else. You come at the issue with conditions which automatically invalidates your claim.I am pro Second Amendment. I am convinced that
Anyway, that's all I can stand to look up right now. I'm sure there's more.