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I value both, since I wouldn't want to live in a world without either.
Humans being human. There's lots of stupidity out there, like trading freedom for perceived safety.
Whereas I feel much safer when others are restrained from making the stupid decisions that they so often make.
That is like restraining gravity. Good luck restraining stupid people from being stupid.
There's a very simple way. Very small lead injections at the first sign of stupidity. Found to be 100% effective in ensuring they don't do it again, when properly applied.
So now everyone is dead. Great job.
Who's talking about perceived safety, Ikari? I know the world is much safer the more of these idiots we take off the street. Take the OWS individuals (please!!!)... we'd all be a lot safer if they were locked up and the key thrown away.
There's a very simple way. Very small lead injections at the first sign of stupidity. Found to be 100% effective in ensuring they don't do it again, when properly applied.
Can't be any worse than what we have NOW, Henrin.
OWS? Please, they didn't really do that much against other people not in their camp. As a society we are no more safe with or without OWS. Perceived safety, here's you trying to throw away the right to assemble and protest because you perceive some increase in safety which isn't there.
You said at the first sign of being stupid. Considering that everyone is stupid once in a while you have to kill everyone including yourself.
anyone who thinks safety concerns can never be used to trump "freedom", is an Anarchist.
In the City of Boston alone they cost Taxpayers more than $2,000,000 in damages and other costs to deal with their ridiculous protest. That's $2 Million the City has to come up with from somewhere. Additionally, any number of their "actions" caused massive traffic and other commuter delays as they forced the closing of streets and the detouring of traffic. If nothing the FISCAL safety of these communities was reduced. Then you think about all the LEO's who spent their time at the Occupy Boston site rather than out doing their regular jobs.
anyone who thinks safety concerns can never be used to trump "freedom", is an Anarchist.
It cost some money, that's not safety. Hell they cost us less than Bush/Obama have cost us on undeclared foreign wars.
Money can most definitely be safety; especially in this sort of situation. They also cost us the services of LEO's who were required to police their asses rather than being out dealing with other things.
As for those foreign wars, I agree. We should have just CARPET NUKED Afghanistan and Iraq and been done with it by the 15th of September, 2001.
Cost of freedom. Better than the alternative.
Yeah...that certainly would have no blowback.
On that we will have to totally disagree.
Don't start a fight you are not both willing to and capable of winning. A bit of wisdom I was taught early in life and that the US Military/Government would be well off to take much more to heart.
Of course. It's long been established that my goal is the proliferation of freedom, while yours is the institutionalization of freedom. Maybe you should just pull up stakes and move to China or some other commie country and tell me how well slavery works for you.
Indeed, and nuking some country in that region would have negative consequences. We'd see a real rise in terrorism against us. This problem cannot be solved through genocide.
Not a fan of Communism. Just Authoritarianism. If I could find such a nation, I'd be there very quickly.
You seem to be under the mistaken belief that we're not already at war with every other nation in the world. We take a body blow every day that crap from these foreign countries crosses our borders and American citizens buy it. We take a head shot every time another American company opens business in other countries and/or ships even a single job overseas. I'm a Nationalist and an Isolationist. If we can't do it or make it here, WE DON'T NEED IT.
Commie countries are a perfect example of authoritarianism and unchecked government. With any form of extremely authoritative state, you'll always get something similar to the Commie countries. So commrad, go and run the experiment. Come back and tell us how much you actually enjoy slavery.
Those are not reasons for war.
No they are not, because their form of Authoritarianism is based on a totally incorrect social structure. I'm looking for something much closer to Robert Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" universe.
So far as I'm concerned the ONLY foreign policy of the US should be this..... "No American Citizen will have anything to do with any person or country outside of the borders of the United States. Anyone from outside of those borders who attempts to contact or otherwise influence any person or other interest inside the US will immediately forfeit their life to the military might of the United States."