Does your morality and ethics define your political beliefs?

[AGENT J]

You're not reading my posts are you ....

Look I'm done with this.

Come up with ONE EXAMPLE of a political position that isn't an ethical judgement ..... either that or I accept the fact that you cannot thus you're wrong.

good move give up since your post got destroyed and was proven to be factually false

 

[RGacky3]

good move give up since your post got destroyed and was proven to be factually false

You haven't proved ****, you haven' even made an argument, or given any example .... you haven't even tried, just made assertions.

 

[AGENT J]

Yes we are talking about judgements because ALL POLITICAL POSITIONS ARE JUDGEMENTS .... if they arn't give me one that isn't, one example.

nope i keep quoting what the real discussion is trying to change it is just desperation
here thye are again

Heres my statement:
"personal morals/ethics =/= political beliefs"

please prove it factually wrong, it cant be done because its a fact


Heres your proven wrong statement:
"BTW, its IMPOSSIBLE to not have your political beliefs defined by your ethics, since your ethics are the ground for what political goals or end's one has."

Please prove that factually true, it cant be done because its not and its already been proven false

this is the lies and deflection you claimed i said:
political positions are not judgements

Please quote me saying this, you will not be able to because i never did.

facts destroy your post again.

 

[AGENT J]

You haven't proved ****, you haven' even made an argument, or given any example .... you haven't even tried, just made assertions.

tell yourself what ever you need to as pointed out by others facts prove you wrong
and lying about examples wont work because they were given multiple times

when you are ready to stay on topic and be civil heres what you need to do

Heres my statement:
"personal morals/ethics =/= political beliefs"

please prove it factually wrong, it cant be done because its a fact


Heres your proven wrong statement:
"BTW, its IMPOSSIBLE to not have your political beliefs defined by your ethics, since your ethics are the ground for what political goals or end's one has."

Please prove that factually true, it cant be done because its not and its already been proven false

this is the lies and deflection you claimed i said:
political positions are not judgement

Please quote me saying this, you will not be able to because i never did.

until you can do this you have nothing

 

[RGacky3]

tell yourself what ever you need to as pointed out by others facts prove you wrong
and lying about examples wont work because they were given multiple times

when you are ready to stay on topic and be civil heres what you need to do

Heres my statement:
"personal morals/ethics =/= political beliefs"

please prove it factually wrong, it cant be done because its a fact


Heres your proven wrong statement:
"BTW, its IMPOSSIBLE to not have your political beliefs defined by your ethics, since your ethics are the ground for what political goals or end's one has."

Please prove that factually true, it cant be done because its not and its already been proven false

this is the lies and deflection you claimed i said:
political positions are not judgement

Please quote me saying this, you will not be able to because i never did.

until you can do this you have nothing

1. All political positions are VALUE judgements PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT IS NOT.
2. All value judgements are either aesthetic or ethical by nature PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT IS NOT.
3. Political positions are not aesthetic thus they are ethical.

If you deny one of the premises give ONE EXAMPLE showing otherwise. If you can't .... then the argument stands.

 

[AGENT J]

1. All political positions are VALUE judgements PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT IS NOT.
2. All value judgements are either aesthetic or ethical by nature PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT IS NOT.
3. Political positions are not aesthetic thus they are ethical.
4.) If you deny one of the premises give ONE EXAMPLE showing otherwise. If you can't .... then the argument stands.

1.) meaningless and or nobody is talking about "judgments"
2.) see 1#
3.) see #1
4.) see #1

your strawman argumnt is meanignless nobody cares about it, your statement below is factual wrong

Heres my statement:
"personal morals/ethics =/= political beliefs"

please prove it factually wrong, it cant be done because its a fact


Heres your proven wrong statement:
"BTW, its IMPOSSIBLE to not have your political beliefs defined by your ethics, since your ethics are the ground for what political goals or end's one has."

Please prove that factually true, it cant be done because its not and its already been proven false

this is the lies and deflection you claimed i said:
political positions are not judgement

Please quote me saying this, you will not be able to because i never did.

until you can do this you have nothing

 

[RGacky3]

1. All political positions are VALUE judgements PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT IS NOT.
2. All value judgements are either aesthetic or ethical by nature PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT IS NOT.
3. Political positions are not aesthetic thus they are ethical.
4.) If you deny one of the premises give ONE EXAMPLE showing otherwise. If you can't .... then the argument stands.

Of coarse it's meaningful UNLESS YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A POLITICAL POSITION THAT IS NOT A VALUE JUDGEMENT ... you have none ... thus you're **** out of luck .... now put up or shut up.

 

[AGENT J]

1. All political positions are VALUE judgements PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT IS NOT.
2. All value judgements are either aesthetic or ethical by nature PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT IS NOT.
3. Political positions are not aesthetic thus they are ethical.
4.) If you deny one of the premises give ONE EXAMPLE showing otherwise. If you can't .... then the argument stands.
5.)Of coarse it's meaningful UNLESS YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A POLITICAL POSITION THAT IS NOT A VALUE JUDGEMENT ... you have none ... thus you're **** out of luck .... now put up or shut up.

1.) meaningless and or nobody is talking about "judgments"
2.) see #1
3.) see #1
4.) see #1
5.) see #1

your strawman argumnt is meanignless nobody cares about it, your statement below is factual wrong

Heres my statement:
"personal morals/ethics =/= political beliefs"

please prove it factually wrong, it cant be done because its a fact


Heres your proven wrong statement:
"BTW, its IMPOSSIBLE to not have your political beliefs defined by your ethics, since your ethics are the ground for what political goals or end's one has."

Please prove that factually true, it cant be done because its not and its already been proven false

this is the lies and deflection you claimed i said:
political positions are not judgement

Please quote me saying this, you will not be able to because i never did.

until you can do this you have nothing

 

[Federalist]

Speaking for myself i've always believed in helping those who cannot help themselves.
I'm a Social Democrat in which I believe in a mixed socialist and capitalist market with an extensive welfare system.
I think it is society and governments job to help the vulnerable and 'weak'.

I would also define myself as quite a moral human being. I'm very anti discrimination of any kind and regularly attend marches in favour of human rights and equality as well as against racism and fascism.

I would like to know your opinion on this matter and whether or not you believe your ethical philosophy directly effects your political philosophy!


(Written at 3am so apologies for anything poorly written.)

Yes, absolutely. My ethics are the foundation of my political beliefs: Do all you have agreed to do, and do not encroach on other persons or their property.