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CNN Admits Mar-a-lago value

Yes, they do.
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Your argument is not consistent with the plain wording of the contract, the accepted legal use of the term "Preservation Easement," or the remainder of the contract, which specifically lays out how the property reverts back to a private residence.

In short, your argument is wrong.
 
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I'm sorry you find that "abstract."

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You posted the "definition" of a perservation easement. That is abstract by definition, beacuse we are not discussing preservation easements in general, but one single specific "preservation easement."
 
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Your link didn't work. On purpose? Did you read these passages?

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The easement was put in place to ensure that the property remains an historic landmark.


Worth more than a single family residence. Worth less than a property that you could parcel up into several mansions/lots.


Where are you reading this?
Why are you so hellbent (compulsively) to defend this fascist crook as if he was a victim?

In 1995, Trump donated the irrevocable, tax deductible easement described below to the National Trust for Preservation. It monitors 114 properties in total it has accepred
wasement donations of.
"..Does Trump get a tax break?

He hired an appraiser who estimated Mar-a-Lago lost $5.7 million in value because of the easement to the National Trust. The appraisal, completed in 1996, states that its purpose is to “estimate for federal income tax purposes the fair market value of the subject property.” Since Trump has not released his tax returns, the status of the tax break is not publicly known..."

September 30, 2020
"..During several meetings, council members quizzed the attorneys about the easement: When would Trump donate the easement? Whom would he donate it to? If they voted in favor of Trump's plan to turn Mar-a-Lago into a private club before Trump had secured the easement and donation to a non-profit, how could they be assured he would follow through?

Preserving Mar-a-Lago: A look at historical features Trump can't touch

To address some of those concerns, Trump selected the National Trust for Historic Preservation as the beneficiary to ensure Mar-a-Lago's finest features would be maintained forever. Trump's appraisers confirmed that the easement would lessen the value of the estate. If Trump were to try and sell the estate, the new owners would be bound by the easement's restrictions and could not alter those features.

Such an act would pay off for Trump, nonetheless. He could deduct the $5.7 million estimated value of those features from his income taxes — as long as his intentions were charitable.

But Trump's promise couldn't be in writing, Trump's attorney told the council, according to meeting minutes and transcripts. If the council insisted Trump's commitment be in writing, his donation might be disqualified by the IRS as a charitable contribution..."
 
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But...but...but...it's only worth $18 million!

4/88 has dramatically overvalued MAL because he agreed to a variety of restrictions on what he can do with the property. For example, he can't develop the property as anything other than a club. And more...my bold added.

"The reality of Mar-a-Lago's value is not straightforward. The historic Palm Beach property has deed restrictions which mean it can only be used as a private club. The land cannot be subdivided, and it requires considerable preservation expenses for the estate, which was built in 1927 for businesswoman and socialite Marjorie Merriweather Post. This deed came about in the 1990s when Mr Trump said Mar-a-Lago was too expensive to be preserved as a private residence, calling it a "white elephant" that was "almost impossible to sell".
Changing it to a private club meant he could use hefty membership fees to help pay for preservation and upkeep. Rosalind Clarke, a Palm Beach real estate agent since the 1980s and a former president of the Palm Beach Board of Realtors, told BBC News the problem with valuing Mar-a-Lago came down to these restrictions. Ms Clarke explained that the value is based on profits of the club and "not the value of the land". She said if the deed restrictions did not exist, "the value of the property would be significantly higher".
Between 2011 and 2021, Trump is accused of valuing Mar-a-Lago as if it had no deed restrictions.

 
If you're referring to those "whereas" statements - all they do is provide background information. They aren't binding parts of the contract.
The last part is. You should read it.
 
Why are you so hellbent (compulsively) to defend this fascist crook as if he was a victim?
Guilty until proven innocent?

In 1995, Trump donated the irrevocable, tax deductible easement described below to the National Trust for Preservation. It monitors 114 properties in total it has accepred
wasement donations of.
"..Does Trump get a tax break?

He hired an appraiser who estimated Mar-a-Lago lost $5.7 million in value because of the easement to the National Trust. The appraisal, completed in 1996, states that its purpose is to “estimate for federal income tax purposes the fair market value of the subject property.” Since Trump has not released his tax returns, the status of the tax break is not publicly known..."
Appraisals for tax purposes are not the same as market value.

September 30, 2020
"..During several meetings, council members quizzed the attorneys about the easement: When would Trump donate the easement? Whom would he donate it to? If they voted in favor of Trump's plan to turn Mar-a-Lago into a private club before Trump had secured the easement and donation to a non-profit, how could they be assured he would follow through?

Preserving Mar-a-Lago: A look at historical features Trump can't touch

To address some of those concerns, Trump selected the National Trust for Historic Preservation as the beneficiary to ensure Mar-a-Lago's finest features would be maintained forever. Trump's appraisers confirmed that the easement would lessen the value of the estate. If Trump were to try and sell the estate, the new owners would be bound by the easement's restrictions and could not alter those features.
Right. I've been trying to get this point across to another poster. The purpose of the easement is to maintain the historic character of the home. The "lessened value" is because the land has the highest value, and it cannot be parceled up into different lots.

Such an act would pay off for Trump, nonetheless. He could deduct the $5.7 million estimated value of those features from his income taxes — as long as his intentions were charitable.

But Trump's promise couldn't be in writing, Trump's attorney told the council, according to meeting minutes and transcripts. If the council insisted Trump's commitment be in writing, his donation might be disqualified by the IRS as a charitable contribution..."
Don't know what this is about.
 
The last part is. You should read it.
I've already made that point numerous times in this thread. The purpose of the easement is to maintain the historic character of the property. To that end, he cannot divide the land up into chunks and develop it - that was the fear the city council had, and why they agreed to make an exception to the zoning for use of the property as a club - they allowed him to do that on the condition that he preserve the home as a landmark.

It doesn't mean the home can't be used as a single family residence. In fact, they specifically wrote into the contract that if the business fails or he decides to end it, the home automatically reverts to single family home status (though the preservation easement is there forever).

Why you would do that, I don't know. The home has more value as a club than as a single family home. It's an enormous property, and the fees pay for all tbe upkeep while turning a considerable profit (not to mention tbe tax benefits). It's an asset that brings in tens of millions a year - as such, it is worth far more than $18 million dollars.
 
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I've already made that point numerous times in this thread. The purpose of the easement is to maintain the historic character of the property. To that end, he cannot divide the land up into chunks and develop it - that was the fear the city council had, and why they agreed to make an exception to the zoning for use of the property as a club - they allowed him to do that on the condition that he preserve the home as a landmark.

It doesn't mean the home can't be used as a single family residence. In fact, they specifically wrote into the contract that if the business fails or he decides to end it, the home automatically reverts to single family home status (though the preservation easement is there forever).

Why you would do that, I don't know. The home has more value as a club than as a single family home. It's an enormous property, and the fees pay for all tbe upkeep while turning a considerable profit (not to mention tbe tax benefits). It's an asset that brings in tens of millions a year - as such, it is worth far more than $18 million dollars.
I don't think you understand any of this. He granted the easement (1995 I think) that forever obligated him to keep much of its current structure, prohibited dividing or subdividing the property for MASSIVE property tax breaks. He then signed a Deed of Development Rights that FURTHER restricted his use, which again lowered the value for property taxes. That worked great to reduce his annual property taxes, because the value of a "club" is the cash flow it can generate, the value of this club what it can generate looking like it does now, with those buildings in place, as they are now, not what the land is worth or the replacement cost of the building sitting on it. Someone running a business pays for the discounted value of free cash flow. That's all that matters, and they can't jack up the sale price at the end for the estimated land value, based on nearby comps, because those nearby comps aren't burdened by the easement and the further restrictions signed by Trump in 2002.

Now Trump and you are arguing, well, the easement and then the "Deed of Development Rights" signed in 2002, that extinguished any remaining rights to develop the property as anything but a club are meaningless. But they are not. If someone wealthy buys that home, they're severely restricted on what they can do, they can't gut the interior and make the big ballroom suitable for a private residence. They can't raze the building and put up the nice house they might want. They can only "develop" that property as a "club." That's right there in the deed signed by Trump in 2002. So at best this very wealthy family signs up to keep the structure basically as is, PLUS the huge maintenance costs, for their $600 million or $1,500 million purchase. Why would they do that?

And you say it's an 'asset' that 'brings in tens of millions a year.' True enough - so now we're back to the discounted value of the cash flow. Well, providing services to wealthy people so that they'll part with $10s of millions per year to visit your club also costs $10s of millions, from the food, e.g. the cost of prime grade beef, fancy wine and liquor, tons of wait staff and cleaning staff, the grounds maintenance, the building maintenance on a very old structure, the insurance from storms and hurricanes, and the TAXES. So what's the net cash flow to Trump today, per year? I haven't seen the financials and what matters is what the club brought in when he made the assertions, not what it's worth today based on current cash flow, that got a big bump when he was elected POTUS. Trump immediately raised the initiation fee for access to himself from 100k to 200k. And, again, if someone just bought property zoned "club" use, they could do all kinds of things to generate more revenue. As is they cannot do most of those things because of the deed restrictions. Point is there's a hard cap on what a private club AS IS, CAN bring in at that location, with the deed restrictions and conservation easement in place. How many years of profits does it take to pay off an e.g. $600 million purchase price? Then turn a real profit? Well, if your loan or discount rate (the return you require to invest in THAT property versus $600m in other properties) is at 5% (prime rate is now 8.5%), interest alone is $30m per year. Good luck I guess!!!

And, again, all those considerations are made 100x worse for a commercial buyer because normally that buyer can bank on the liquidation value of prime beach front real estate in Florida going up, or maybe gutting the place and configuring it completely differently to maximize revenue, but the deed restrictions and conservation easement make that IMPOSSIBLE.
 
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