Bias in the mainstream media

[calamity]

That is an absurd absolutist statement.

Not as absurd as you saying a man who chooses same sex sexual victims is heterosexual.

 

[SmartCat]

No, that's actually the only error I made. Your errors in this thread are far too numerous to note... starting with a lack of understanding of basic definitions. You can't discuss a topic if you don't understand the basics of that topic... and in this case, you don't.

You do not prove that by asserting it.

Your only argument is the highly counter intuitive one that heterosexual men are more likely to abuse boys than are homosexual men.

George Orwell wrote, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” I am not sure if I would call you an intellectual. Nevertheless, there are some social scientists who make assertions as absurd as you have about homosexuals in order to advance their academic careers. In academia there seems to be a market for that kind of nonsense.

The social sciences lack a commonly agreed upon way of separating truth from falsehood. Anyone who writes well and who tells a large number of people what they want to believe will be considered to be an oracle.

Nevertheless, I can think of a number of ways to prove, or at least provide strong evidence, that heterosexual men rarely abuse boys. Some of them abuse girls, but not boys.

 

[SmartCat]

Not as absurd as you saying a man who chooses same sex sexual victims is heterosexual.

Thank you. :happy:

At least one person has been following my debate with CaptainCourtesy who can think clearly.

 

[calamity]

You do not prove that by asserting it.

Your only argument is the highly counter intuitive one that heterosexual men are more likely to abuse boys than are homosexual men.

George Orwell wrote, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” I am not sure if I would call you an intellectual. Nevertheless, there are some social scientists who make assertions as absurd as you have about homosexuals in order to advance their academic careers. In academia there seems to be a market for that kind of nonsense.

The social sciences lack a commonly agreed upon way of separating truth from falsehood. Anyone who writes well and who tells a large number of people what they want to believe will be considered to be an oracle.

Nevertheless, I can think of a number of ways to prove, or at least provide strong evidence, that heterosexual men rarely abuse boys. Some of them abuse girls, but not boys.

lol...and here I thought this thread would focus on nothing more absurd than the trend that any movie about AIDS drugs, transexuals or slavery is guaranteed to win multiple Oscars. But, this idea that someone who sexually abuses people of the same sex is heterosexual takes the cake.

 

[SmartCat]

Incorrect. Being attracted to teenage boys is not a sexual orientation. He was heterosexual who molested, assaulted, and murdered teenage boys. His dealings with them were related to his personality disorders and other mental illnesses, NOT sexual orientation.

Do you really believe that, or are you just saying it because it makes you feel good about yourself?

I am sure he had personality disorders. In addition, he was just plane evil, and deserved to suffer for his crimes. Nevertheless, if he was a heterosexual he would have have "molested, assaulted, and murdered teenage" girls.

 

[calamity]

Thank you. :happy:

At least one person has been following my debate with CaptainCourtesy who can think clearly.

It comes with a price. Ridicule and ad hom about my "ignorance" seems to be the norm when I go there here.

 

[calamity]

Do you really believe that, or are you just saying it because it makes you feel good about yourself?

I am sure he had personality disorders. In addition, he was just plane evil, and deserved to suffer for his crimes. Nevertheless, if he was a heterosexual he would have have "molested, assaulted, and murdered teenage" girls.

Had he only killed the boys, the argument would at least still be consistent. But, we know for a fact that he had sex with these boys before (and maybe even after) killing them. Therefore it is physically impossible for him to have been heterosexual.

 

[SmartCat]

Which is accurate. You have offered nothing either logically or factually to refute that. You don't understand basic definitions of the argument, which is a big reason why your argument fails.

In your own words explain the difference between deductive logic and inductive logic. When you are finished I will. Then we will see who has a better understanding of logic.

Ah, no. You haven't shown any interest in becoming educated on this topic. I have no reason to try to educate you on logic, either.

In other words you make statements that you can't back up. If you understood logic you would have an easy time explaining the difference between deductive and intuitive logic.

 

[SmartCat]

Had he only killed the boys, the argument would at least still be consistent. But, we know for a fact that he had sex with these boys before (and maybe even after) killing them. Therefore it is physically impossible for him to have been heterosexual.

Any test that claims to show that known sex abusers of boys are not homosexuals or bisexuals is invalid on the face of it. One might as well try to measure IQ by whether or not a person has an intelligent looking face.

 

[SmartCat]

It comes with a price. Ridicule and ad hom about my "ignorance" seems to be the norm when I go there here.

CaptainCourtney claims that I am ignorant of logic. Nevertheless, his arguments consist of nothing but logical fallacies.

 

[SmartCat]

He was attracted to people of the opposite sex. He molested people of the same sex. There. Now you have been educated on the difference. Again.

For men sex is often not the expression of affection, but the impulse of an appetite. Nevertheless, exploitative heterosexuals direct their appetites at females. Exploitative homosexuals direct their appetites at males.

Male heterosexuals and male homosexuals nearly always prefer young sex partners. This can be easily seen by looking at pictures at heterosexual and homosexual pornography that attracts a male audience.

The difference between a homosexual man who is attracted to eighteen year old boys and a homosexual man who is attracted to fourteen year old boys is one of degree rather than kind. It is the same with heterosexual men who are attracted to eighteen year old girls and fourteen year old girls. The legal system recognizes age of consent because younger people are more likely to be emotionally damaged by having sex with men.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Not as absurd as you saying a man who chooses same sex sexual victims is heterosexual.

I already demonstrated how you were wrong about that. And this is not the first time you have shown your ignorance on this topic and I have needed to correct you. You still don't understand the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

You do not prove that by asserting it.

You prove it by demonstrating it.

Your only argument is the highly counter intuitive one that heterosexual men are more likely to abuse boys than are homosexual men.

Which is proven in research. Your only argument is the uneducated one that claims that one's orientation is defined by one's behavior in this specific situation.

George Orwell wrote, “There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” I am not sure if I would call you an intellectual. Nevertheless, there are some social scientists who make assertions as absurd as you have about homosexuals in order to advance their academic careers. In academia there seems to be a market for that kind of nonsense.

There are plenty of those with anti-gay bias who make uneducated presentations such as yours. They ignore information and fact just to present their agenda. Doesn't matter to them who wrong what they say is. It's your agenda that matters.

The social sciences lack a commonly agreed upon way of separating truth from falsehood. Anyone who writes well and who tells a large number of people what they want to believe will be considered to be an oracle.

Nevertheless, I can think of a number of ways to prove, or at least provide strong evidence, that heterosexual men rarely abuse boys. Some of them abuse girls, but not boys.

Actually, you can't prove it since it is inaccurate.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

lol...and here I thought this thread would focus on nothing more absurd than the trend that any movie about AIDS drugs, transexuals or slavery is guaranteed to win multiple Oscars. But, this idea that someone who sexually abuses people of the same sex is heterosexual takes the cake.

It just goes to your ignorance on this topic, calamity, something that is well known. This is not the first time that I have attempted to educate you on issues such as these. Not only do you not understand basic definitions like sexual orientation and sexual behavior, but you refuse to learn them. You are another one who holds onto an agenda even though the fact demonstrate that your agenda is a failure.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Do you really believe that, or are you just saying it because it makes you feel good about yourself?

I am sure he had personality disorders. In addition, he was just plane evil, and deserved to suffer for his crimes. Nevertheless, if he was a heterosexual he would have have "molested, assaulted, and murdered teenage" girls.

Incorrect. You still don't understand the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior. Do you do this because you want to remain uneducated on this issue or because it helps you to feel good about your anti-gay agenda?

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

It comes with a price. Ridicule and ad hom about my "ignorance" seems to be the norm when I go there here.

It's an accurate description of how you post. You refuse to educate yourself on this issue, even when facts are spoonfed to you. I will keep pointing this out until you choose to learn why things are the way they are.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Had he only killed the boys, the argument would at least still be consistent. But, we know for a fact that he had sex with these boys before (and maybe even after) killing them. Therefore it is physically impossible for him to have been heterosexual.

Incorrect. Tell us the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Any test that claims to show that known sex abusers of boys are not homosexuals or bisexuals is invalid on the face of it. One might as well try to measure IQ by whether or not a person has an intelligent looking face.

Incorrect. Tell us the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

CaptainCourtney claims that I am ignorant of logic. Nevertheless, his arguments consist of nothing but logical fallacies.

You are ignorant of logic on this issue. I demonstrated that clearly when your conclusion did not follow your points.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

For men sex is often not the expression of affection, but the impulse of an appetite. Nevertheless, exploitative heterosexuals direct their appetites at females. Exploitative homosexuals direct their appetites at males.

Male heterosexuals and male homosexuals nearly always prefer young sex partners. This can be easily seen by looking at pictures at heterosexual and homosexual pornography that attracts a male audience.

The difference between a homosexual man who is attracted to eighteen year old boys and a homosexual man who is attracted to fourteen year old boys is one of degree rather than kind. It is the same with heterosexual men who are attracted to eighteen year old girls and fourteen year old girls. The legal system recognizes age of consent because younger people are more likely to be emotionally damaged by having sex with men.

Explain the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior. Btw... molestation is an act of aggression, power and opportunity. I find it interesting that you are discussing a topic that you know so little about.

 

[calamity]

I already demonstrated how you were wrong about that. And this is not the first time you have shown your ignorance on this topic and I have needed to correct you. You still don't understand the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior.

Look up the definition of heterosexual. It's pretty explicit. For sure it does not include among its ranks people who have sexual relations with people of the same sex. Now strangling and then burying the corpse of your sexual partner, consenting or not, may go down as something completely beyond hetero/homosexual definitions. I won't deny that. But heterosexual he is not.

 

[calamity]

Incorrect. Tell us the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior.

Why? I am only saying that a person who has sex with humans of the same sex is not heterosexual. Pretty clear cut argument, CC.

 

[calamity]

It's an accurate description of how you post. You refuse to educate yourself on this issue, even when facts are spoonfed to you. I will keep pointing this out until you choose to learn why things are the way they are.

Sometimes your arguments and the information you present approach the absurd. If, I go out every Friday to pick up guys and have sex with them, I am not heterosexual, no matter how many female sex partners I may have on the other six days of the week.

 

[calamity]

Incorrect. Tell us the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior.

If the sexual behavior is to have sex with both sexes, the orientation is bisexual. Pretty simple stuff, CC. No need to complicate things.

 

[SmartCat]

Explain the difference between sexual orientation and sexual behavior. Btw... molestation is an act of aggression, power and opportunity. I find it interesting that you are discussing a topic that you know so little about.

The only reason I "know so little about" child abuse is because I have never been guilty of it.

I have already explained the difference between sexual orientation and behavior. This is the last time I will repeat myself. Sexual orientation is the propensity to be attracted to males, females, or both, and to be attracted to males, females, or both at various ages. Sexual behavior is what one actually does. It is not true that all men who are attracted to underage boys try to have sex with those boys. It is probably the case that most do not. Nevertheless, the desire is father to the deed.

It is natural for sexually mature heterosexual males of all ages to prefer females from the ages of about 18 to perhaps 25 because they are best able to give birth to healthy babies. Homosexuals are similar in this regard to heterosexuals. They prefer youth. This can easily be determined by looking at heterosexual and homosexual pornography.

I remember when I was in the seventh grade in junior high school. The seventh grade girls looked good, but the ninth grade girls looked much better! When I was in senior high school the tenth grade girls looked good, but the twelfth grade girls still looked better.

In terms of sexual attraction, there is no dichotomy between men who are attracted to males, females, or both who are over the age of seventeen, and those who are under the age of eighteen. There is nothing that happens to a person on his or her eighteenth birthday that suddenly turns on the lust of older men. Attractive eighteen year olds were attractive at the age of seventeen. They were probably attractive children.