Best 20th Century President

[Joe1991]

When it was formed, SS was for people who lived for at least three years over the life expectency at the time. Not sure of the exact number, but in the 1930s, for every person withdrawing, 42 paid in. Within a few decades it will be 1:2. I have no problem with the government assisting the disabled and truly needy, but retirement at 65 is going to have to be a thing of the past

Agree completely. Adjusting it's parameters is what congress should do every 6 years or so. Personally I'd love to see a means test. Kinda silly for Bill Gates to get the same check as my granda.

 

[DrunkenAsparagus]

Agree completely. Adjusting it's parameters is what congress should do every 6 years or so. Personally I'd love to see a means test. Kinda silly for Bill Gates to get the same check as my granda.

I'll take that over nothing. However, I don't see how this is the government's place. People should be able to save themselves. Privatizing the ponzi scheme will probably allow the seniors to get more money.

 

[mikhail]

Just me and someone else that went for Eisenhower then.Not only the best but most underated president of the 20th century.

 

[DrunkenAsparagus]

However, yes, some people do need government help, like some of the disabled. I just guess, I'd be more discriminating when it comes to who is "needy"

 

[RedAkston]

Some people are just lousy at making polls.

In my opinion, a good poll should give a balanced choice of options and the maker of the poll should not give his/her opinion in the opening post.

I don't see an opinion in the OP, do you?

 

[upsideguy]

bill clinton.

At least the poster didn't offer up Herbert Hoover....

If this were a legit poll, it would have included both Roosevelt's, Wilson, Truman, Kennedy and Clinton and not had laughable options such as Harding or Coolidge.

 

[Tucker Case]

McKinley. It all went downhill after him.

 

[MyOwnDrum]

That I do, boo. I learned from the right wing whack-o-loons that any form of government regulation of commerce is socialism.

Why do you have to use such insulting language? It's unseemly...

 

[MyOwnDrum]

McKinley. It all went downhill after him.

Aw, and he had his most excellent Nobel Peace Prize winning Secretary of State, Elihu Root! (A relative of mine):2razz:

 

[teamosil]

FDR... Obviously....

 

[repeter]

FDR... Obviously....

Turned back the Nazis, Facist Italy, and Imperialistic Japan...while fighting the Great Depression, and inspiring the people's confidence in the markets. And of course, he is the only president to serve 3 terms, and die after being re-elected for a fourth term...

 

[Whip Comes Down]

Turned back the Nazis, Facist Italy, and Imperialistic Japan...while fighting the Great Depression, and inspiring the people's confidence in the markets. And of course, he is the only president to serve 3 terms, and die after being re-elected for a fourth term...

You neglected to mention that he saved capitalism.

 

[Jackboot]

I always liked Reagan, reminded me of my grandfather, and he was a unapologetic proud american!

 

[Whip Comes Down]

Why do you have to use such insulting language? It's unseemly...

I employ insulting language when I talk about the right wing whack-o-loons who label everything socialism, because I find them insulting to the concept of reason.

 

[ScottD]

FDR

And what's with JFK, FDR, and other Democrats not being on your list? You didn't run out of options.

 

[Cilogy]

I would say from best to third best, JFK; FDR; Bill Clinton

Ronald Reagan was great actor, his best performance was when he "was president." Just like Bush, he wasn't running that administration, he was just the puppet.

 

[DrunkenAsparagus]

Turned back the Nazis, Facist Italy, and Imperialistic Japan...

While America's role was vital, the Russians did most of the work in Europe. Almost any other President would've reacted in a similar way

while fighting the Great Depression, and inspiring the people's confidence in the markets.

Prolonged it with high spending, high taxes, onerous regulation, and price controls

And of course, he is the only president to serve 3 terms, and die after being re-elected for a fourth term...

So he was popular. That doesn't make him a good President.

 

[Chappy]

FDR FTW

No contest.

 

[repeter]

While America's role was vital, the Russians did most of the work in Europe. Almost any other President would've reacted in a similar way



Prolonged it with high spending, high taxes, onerous regulation, and price controls



So he was popular. That doesn't make him a good President.

Do you think the Russians would have won if we hadn't given Hitler another war front to fight? Or if we hadn't given them money, support, etc?

High spending, which put the confidence back into the system. High taxes which payed for the war. Lack of regulation contributed to the initial problem. Price controls during a World War, and during the Great Depression? I can't believe you even tried arguing that...

His popularity was based upon the fact that he got results.

 

[danarhea]

bill clinton.

William Jefferson Clinton was actually an excellent president. Why would I say that, when everything he did sucked? Because he singlehandedly changed the lexicon of the English language, which used to be boring. The word "is" has many meanings now, and English is now very fun, especially for those who make up Bill Clinton jokes. :mrgreen:

 

[Donc]

Nuff said.:2wave:

 

[DrunkenAsparagus]

Do you think the Russians would have won if we hadn't given Hitler another war front to fight? Or if we hadn't given them money, support, etc?

I said that America's role was vital. It's just that him fighting the Axis is what almost any other President would've done

High spending, which put the confidence back into the system.

It just redistributed income and didn't let the recession work itself out (just pushed problems back)

High taxes which payed for the war.

I was refferring to the Great Depression here. I don't mind higher taxes to pay for a war like WWII

Lack of regulation contributed to the initial problem.

How so? The bubble in the 1920s was largely a product of inflationary monetary policy of the Federal Reserve

Price controls during a World War, and during the Great Depression? I can't believe you even tried arguing that...

This part of my post that you're responding to had to do with the New Deal, not WWII. Yes Price controls, while not bad if you're directing the economy toward a singular purpose like a major war, it's poor for allowing an economic recovery. Government distortion of prices is bad because the information needed to run the economy is largely spread through prices and that info can't be privy to everyone at once. In other words. It's like letting a circus clown right a manual to nuclear reactor safety

His popularity was based upon the fact that he got results.

His popularity was based on a popular perception of results. Nixon and Reagan won reelection in landslides. Does this automatically make them good to you?

 

[Caine]

You guys have no respect for facial hair....

Taft FTW.

 

[Whip Comes Down]

The word "is" has many meanings now...

How many meanings does it have now, bro?

 

[upsideguy]

William Jefferson Clinton was actually an excellent president. Why would I say that, when everything he did sucked? Because he singlehandedly changed the lexicon of the English language, which used to be boring. The word "is" has many meanings now, and English is now very fun, especially for those who make up Bill Clinton jokes. :mrgreen:

That is the worst you can say about him..... That seems to refute your own argument. Would you like a list of the things wrong with his successor? Its pretty impressive (what is impressive is the country survived those things..)