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Thread: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    We'll wait and see how that works out when you get your notice to report for duty.
    I will thank them for the heads up and disappear.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This came up in another thread. Do you believe that a country was the right to draft it's citizens into it's armed forces during a time of war.

    I personally believed that it does if that country is going to survive.


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    In regards to the United States I'm talking about an official declaration of war being declared.
    If the war is being fought against an existential and imminent threat, then yes. But if that were the case you'd think that people would be voluntarily signing up anyway.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    sure it has the right just make sure you are in college ,rich and not black lol!!!!!! but it cannot be a war for a private corp. like iraq and cheney
    Last edited by plutonium; 12-02-13 at 01:42 PM.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Yeah. I just won't go.



    Anyone who makes that choice will have to bear the consequences.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    The OP question is an extension of the current munging of the word "right". It's not a matter of rights, has nothing to do with rights. It's a matter of authorization, ability and will. The answer here in the US is yes to all three.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This came up in another thread. Do you believe that a country was the right to draft it's citizens into it's armed forces during a time of war.

    I personally believed that it does if that country is going to survive.


    Added in:

    In regards to the United States I'm talking about an official declaration of war being declared.
    I voted yes based on the caveat that the draft was only after an official declaration of war. The United States hasn't done an official declaration of war since World War 2.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Anyone who makes that choice will have to bear the consequences.
    You know, I didn't even register for the draft and I had no plans to do so, but my mother realized my plan to disobey and registered me before anything came about from it. Still, I had no plans to do anything the government asked of me and if left to my own devices I wouldn't have. You can threaten me with whatever you desire and I assure you I will still stand by my convictions.

    If you really believe you want to draft people in the military than you better be willing to deal with people that have no plans to listen to your commands and show up completely unwilling to listen to anything any of the military officers have to say.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You know, I didn't even register for the draft and I had no plans to do so, but my mother realized my plan to disobey and registered me before anything came about from it. Still, I had no plans to do anything the government asked of me and if left to my own devices I wouldn't have. You can threaten me with whatever you desire and I assure you I will still stand by my convictions.

    If you really believe you want to draft people in the military than you better be willing to deal with people that have no plans to listen to your commands and show up completely unwilling to listen to anything any of the military officers have to say.
    Meaningless bravado. In times of peace you'll just be fined and they end up signing you up to selective service anyway, in times of war it could easily mean sharing a cell with Bubba. Refuse once they've put you in uniform, especially during war and you'll know what hell is. I saw folks with your expressed views stand in line at AAFES induction, they were only ever rebelious once.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Meaningless bravado. In times of peace you'll just be fined and they end up signing you up to selective service anyway, in times of war it could easily mean sharing a cell with Bubba. Refuse once they've put you in uniform, especially during war and you'll know what hell is. I saw folks with your expressed views stand in line at AAFES induction, they were only ever rebelious once.
    I would have no plans to pay the fine either, so I would assume they would just take it from me only providing me further evidence to not respect their authority. In times of war if they decided to jail me, assuming they caught me, then so be it. I have no plans to assist them or to do their will. There is really nothing they can do to me to make me listen to them and the more they try the more I will rebel against them.
    Last edited by Henrin; 12-02-13 at 02:09 PM.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    I had to sign up for the draft as a corporal in the Marine Corps. If I had gotten drafted, would I have had to go home?
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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