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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I'm waiting to see what Allred brings up. That lady can do damage like nobody's business.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Donahue View Post
    It's definitely worse than Watergate but that isn't saying too much.

    The press has been pretty upfront in ignoring anything negative about Pres. Obama, including this incident, so I don't really see where this will make much of a difference. Todd Akin, who no one had ever heard of until this summer, has been given far more attention for a rambling comment he retracted almost immediately. I think that says it all.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is all you got..........
    You should probably look up who Gloria Allred is first before making a comment like that.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Now try and concentrate like a laser beam my left wing friend and I will explain it to you.....No one died in Watergate........4 people did here......This could have been avoided and these people saved. but because Obama worried about the political impact and the election nothing was done to save these people. Lies and a cover up on this was going on 10 days after the incident until Obama got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
    By that measure, 9/11 is worse then Watergate. By that measure, any incident were lives were lost is worse then Watergate.

    In terms of actual scandal in the context of Watergate, where the context is illegal actions by a President, this isn't even on the radar. Nothing the Administration has done has been illegal.

    Besides, it's obvious you are using this as a political club. 9/11 in terms of ignoring the information and then letting the Saudi family go without question is significantly worse. And if we really want to escalate, the "case' for Iraq is wholesale treason as the information Bush relied upon was flagged by the Germans and Cezcks as unreliable and to which we now know was a complete fabrication as admitted by Curveball himself. You have never criticized Bush for either. Never on Whistlestopper.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    By that measure, 9/11 is worse then Watergate. By that measure, any incident were lives were lost is worse then Watergate.

    In terms of actual scandal in the context of Watergate, where the context is illegal actions by a President, this isn't even on the radar. Nothing the Administration has done has been illegal.

    Besides, it's obvious you are using this as a political club. 9/11 in terms of ignoring the information and then letting the Saudi family go without question is significantly worse.
    So it is ok to sit back and watch Americans die, just so long as you don't steal a couple pieces of paper?
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    So it is ok to sit back and watch Americans die, just so long as you don't steal a couple pieces of paper?
    Quit with the false outrage...
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    No. It wont for obvious reasons.


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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What do you think. I personally believe it is worse then the Watergate scandal.........At least no one was murdered.
    I don't think so. I think the only ones who see a scandal here are the right wing hacks. But I've been wrong overestimating the intelligence of the public before so we'll just have to see.

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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    I'm not sure, I think much of the media is avoiding that and the Romney campaign has not attacked Obama's failure on this as much as they should be.
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    Re: Will the Libya scandal lose the election for Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fruityfact View Post
    Quit with the false outrage...
    What false outrage? You think I'm faking this?! I honestly believe that if the reports are accurate, this president should be tried and executed! You don't leave Americans to die just because. You don't tell Marines to "stand down" when they can help. And you sure as hell don't tell the American public and the world that it was a "spontaneous protest" when you watched the live video feed of an organized militia execute your ambassador. And you really don't have a guy arrested in the US that had absolutely nothing to do with it! This goes way above what any President has done. This is completely unprecedented and I can't believe that some would sit around and just let it be!

    I want you to think about this. The heroes that died serving their country in Benghazi would have never had the true story told if this administration had gotten their way. They would have been killed by "protesters" that reacted to a YouTube video and we would have never known their true heroism. They disobeyed orders to save American lives and succeeded. They gave their lives despite the stupidity of our government. They most certainly would have faced significant punishment for their actions, but their selfless sense of duty and spot on intuition with regards to right and wrong saved many of the Americans based in Benghazi.

    But, hey, we should not be outraged, there was nothing that could be done? Right?

    Bite me.

    Even if there was nothing that could have been done (and I doubt that's the case, the reports just don't reflect that), the cover up was not needed. That's what makes me believe there was a bad call. There was someone, in this administration, that did the wrong thing. Other wise, why cover it up? If there was nothing to be done then the ambassador was a victim of terrorism. He would have been the poster boy for a new cry for the war on terror. It could have propelled the President to new heights as he called for renewed efforts. Instead, it was covered up in hopes the truth wouldn't come out until after the election. An american's rights were violated for political gain and the true valor of two of America's finest was shoved under the rug like dirt.
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