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Speak Arabic, get kicked off your flight [W:153]

Paleocon said:
So a Muslim was talking about ISIS in Arabic, on board a plane, with his uncle from Baghdad? And that aroused suspicions?
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Who on earth says he was talking about Isis? Speaking arabic should not be the reason someone is kicked off a plane.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
So why does he lead in the GOP primary polls there?
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If you have three Republicans in the state and two of them are for The Donald that means he has the lead. No doubt the Arabic-speaking airline employee was one of them.
 
Peter King said:
Who on earth says he was talking about Isis? Speaking arabic should not be the reason someone is kicked off a plane.
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The article said he was talking about ISIS.
 
coldjoint said:
Seems to me it is a problems Muslims should solve. Stop the terror, problem solved.
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Many of the "acts of terror" we see on TV are not actually conducted by muslims. San Bernardino is a perfect example.

All are blamed on muslims, and that is the purpose.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Many of the "acts of terror" we see on TV are not actually conducted by muslims. San Bernardino is a perfect example.

All are blamed on muslims, and that is the purpose.
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Uh.....San Bernardino was conducted by Muslims. Home grown extremists, to be exact.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Many of the "acts of terror" we see on TV are not actually conducted by muslims. San Bernardino is a perfect example.

All are blamed on muslims, and that is the purpose.
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Intentional ignorance of the San Bernardino shooter noted.

Rizwan Farook was a Sunni Muslim.
 
Paleocon said:
The article said he was talking about ISIS.
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No, the person said Jihadi kind of language, not Isis at least that is not mentioned in this article.
 
Peter King said:
No, the person said Jihadi kind of language, not Isis at least that is not mentioned in this article.
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He said in the article that he was talking about the Islamic State.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Many of the "acts of terror" we see on TV are not actually conducted by muslims. San Bernardino is a perfect example.

All are blamed on muslims, and that is the purpose.
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What are you talking about? They were Muslims.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Uh.....San Bernardino was conducted by Muslims. Home grown extremists, to be exact.
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The wife was a homegrown extremist from Saudi Arabia, and that is where she was radicalized(learned Islam).
 
coldjoint said:
What are you talking about? They were Muslims.
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And OK City was by Christians, and Ireland was by two sects of the Christian faith, does that mean all Christians share the same tendencies?
 
Casper said:
And OK City was by Christians, and Ireland was by two sects of the Christian faith, does that mean all Christians share the same tendencies?
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Wrong. Mc Veigh said his religion was science.

McVeigh was raised Roman Catholic.[91] During his childhood, he and his father attended Mass regularly.[92] McVeigh was confirmed at the Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York, in 1985.[93] In a 1996 interview, McVeigh professed belief in "a God", although he said he had "sort of lost touch with" Catholicism and "I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs."[91] In McVeigh's biography American Terrorist, released in 2002, he stated that he did not believe in a hell and that science is his religion.[94][
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
 
Casper said:
And OK City was by Christians, and Ireland was by two sects of the Christian faith, does that mean all Christians share the same tendencies?
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Considering Christian doctrine is non-violent, no.
 
Paleocon said:
He said in the article that he was talking about the Islamic State.
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He said that he was telling his uncle about when he was talking to Ban Ki Moon and he was allowed to ask Ban Ki Moon about IS, that is not the same thing as talking about ISIS. Saying you were allowed to ask Ban Ki Moon about IS is not "talking about IS" it was talking about how he was allowed to ask a question regarding IS.
 
coldjoint said:
Considering Christian doctrine is non-violent, no.
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But we know that when applied in the real world it can be very violent. The same can be said for Islam, there are over a Billion Muslims in the world, yet the number of actual violent fanatics is quit small, so is it religion or the people?
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Yep, that's all it took. A man having a completely innocent phone conversation with his uncle.
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Or so he says.

It's possible that it was a perfectly innocent conversation.

It's also possible that the kid was being deliberately provocative.

Since all we have to go on is the kid's word, and it's unlikely he would say anything after thee fact to "incriminate" himself, I think it's best to just sorta write this one off.
 
Casper said:
But we know that when applied in the real world it can be very violent. The same can be said for Islam, there are over a Billion Muslims in the world, yet the number of actual violent fanatics is quit small, so is it religion or the people?
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Wrong again, the doctrine applied would be peaceful. Violence is not acceptable in Christian doctrine. It is in Islam.

Violent fanatics need guns and money. Where do you think that comes from? It comes from so called moderate Muslims.
 
Peter King said:
He said that he was telling his uncle about when he was talking to Ban Ki Moon and he was allowed to ask Ban Ki Moon about IS, that is not the same thing as talking about ISIS. Saying you were allowed to ask Ban Ki Moon about IS is not "talking about IS" it was talking about how he was allowed to ask a question regarding IS.
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Which requires that he did in fact reference ISIS in Arabic. In what sense he was referencing it would have been unknown to the concerned passenger.
 
coldjoint said:

Wrong again, the doctrine applied would be peaceful. Violence is not acceptable in Christian doctrine. It is in Islam.

Violent fanatics need guns and money. Where do you think that comes from? It comes from so called moderate Muslims.
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So you ignore the entire Old Testament? Noted.

Well with ISIS it is often through sales of the objects they sold. Some does, just as it does with many radicals, the point is one cannot label everyone of a Faith based on the actions of the few, well back to were we started, Rational People cannot label them that way.
 
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