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BORDER FLOOD BEFORE VOTE... 275,000 born to illegals in one year...

Mac77 said:
I will tell you the same thing I said to Casper.

It does not hurt to be prepared.

If the US military had not remained in high alert during the Cold War the Soviets might have been tempted to try something.

Being a strong nation promoted peace
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Yes, the military had to be prepared...and was...and by being prepared, their preparations allowed those of us who weren't on the bleeding edge of those preparations to live normal lives. And that's what I'm saying - instead of lending any credence to the doom-and-gloom crowd, it's better to live one's life as if the worst ain't gonna happen.

There's a line by Samuel L. Jackson's character Nick Fury in the first Avengers movie, where somebody tells him that the world might end. His reply went something like, "The world has not ended, and until such time that the world does indeed end, I intend to live my life as if the world is going to continue on for the foreseeable future."

Don't get me wrong - in our garage, I've got a couple of large buckets of 25-year food. I've got a generator. I've got all the tools I need. But my time is too precious for me to spend my brain cells thinking about thermonuclear war when there's big-enough disasters that are much more likely, like the potential 9+ earthquake fault that lay not far off the Washington coast...and I see how building code up here is not nearly what California's is. An even more worrisome eventuality - and note the word "eventuality" - is a 1918-style pandemic...because there's more than a few influenzae strains that are much deadlier than H1N1 was. Like the next Carrington event, this will happen - we just have no idea when.

So...nah, I've got no time to worry about the nukes. I worry a heck of a lot more about making sure my family is safe and warm...and if the **** hits the fan, we'll deal with it. But until it does, we'll continue living our lives as best we can.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Yes, the military had to be prepared...and was...and by being prepared, their preparations allowed those of us who weren't on the bleeding edge of those preparations to live normal lives. And that's what I'm saying - instead of lending any credence to the doom-and-gloom crowd, it's better to live one's life as if the worst ain't gonna happen.

There's a line by Samuel L. Jackson's character Nick Fury in the first Avengers movie, where somebody tells him that the world might end. His reply went something like, "The world has not ended, and until such time that the world does indeed end, I intend to live my life as if the world is going to continue on for the foreseeable future."







Don'tget me wrong - in our garage, I've got a couple of large buckets of 25-year food. I've got a generator. I've got all the tools I need. But my time is too precious for me to spend my brain cells thinking about thermonuclear war when there's big-enough disasters that are much more likely, like the potential 9+ earthquake fault that lay not far off the Washington coast...

and I see how building code up here is not nearly what California's is. An even more worrisome eventuality - and note the word "eventuality" - is a 1918-style pandemic...because there's more than a few influenzae strains that are much deadlier than H1N1 was. Like the next Carrington event, this will happen - we just have no idea when.

So...nah, I've got no time to worry about the nukes. I worry a heck of a lot more about making sure my family is safe and warm...and if the **** hits the fan, we'll deal with it. But until it does, we'll continue living our lives as best we can.
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In that case you dont sound very different than Casper
 
Mac77 said:
In that case you dont sound very different than Casper
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Thing is, I bought none of it to prepare for some apocalyptic event. The 25-year food was required when we ran an Adult Family Home. The generator came to us along with our medically-fragile Foster children. The tools are just stuff I got over the years to work around the house.

And I have no firearms - I see no real need for them (grew up with firearms, got my quals in my Navy career, owned a few over the years, but no longer see a need for them). That in itself should set me apart from Casper.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Thing is, I bought none of it to prepare for some apocalyptic event. The 25-year food was required when we ran an Adult Family Home. The generator came to us along with our medically-fragile Foster children. The tools are just stuff I got over the years to work around the house.

And I have no firearms - I see no real need for them (grew up with firearms,

got my quals in my Navy career, owned a few over the years, but no longer see a need for them). That in itself should set me apart from Casper.
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That is your choice

I remember a CNN report about a hurricane that hit a resort island in the caribean ocean

Civil authority had broken down and people, meaning the locals, were looting and running wild in the streets.

The reporter on the scene said that most of the tourists were gathered in just one hotel - the one that the visiting US skeet team with their shotguns was staying at
 
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Mac77 said:
For sure none of the washington establishment politicans in either party are serious about ending illegal alien immigration abuse.

But I think trump is serious
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Why? He has also said as recent as 2012 that he wouldn't deport illegals. Is he just saying what people want to hear to get elected?
 
TheGoverness said:
Naaaaah. Trump would never do something like that.
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Never. Lol!

I was listening to this clip this morning of him on the Wendy Williams show alwith Ivanka and they were talking about things they have in common so of course Trump says sex. He's such a perv.
 
americanwoman said:
Never. Lol!

I was listening to this clip this morning of him on the Wendy Williams show alwith Ivanka and they were talking about things they have in common so of course Trump says sex. He's such a perv.
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I've watched that clip before. Something's definitely wrong with that man. He keeps on saying if Ivanka wasn't his daughter he'd get with her.
 
Manc Skipper said:
21 years and they'll be able to vote! The horror!
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I'm thinking that in 21 years the system will have broken down , due to the overpopulation minus real economic worth of our huge new citizenry and the completion of automated systems which will displace too many human jobs to allow most to work. a great societal upheaval will follow in which the population at large will be killed and maimed by the elite's supply of drones and automated warriors.


there won't be a need to vote.

please tell me how you are going to implement policy to fix this slight flaw in the plan of letting everyone through our border? if they find it easier to kill you than take care of you, they will.
 
americanwoman said:
Why? He has also said as recent as 2012 that he wouldn't deport illegals. Is he just saying what people want to hear to get elected?
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We will see.

I believe hillary when she talks about open borders and an unending flood of imigrants.

including hundreds of thousands of syrians.

So I'm willing to take my chances with trump
 
NoLeftNoRight said:
You have absolutely no respect for decency and LAW do you ? A nation without borders and law will soon be a lawless cesspool of poverty and human suffering. Oh wait! We've already become that under Socialists like Hillary and Obama.
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Yeah, never should of let all those Irish in, look what happened... :roll:

Bigot driven laws are not decent...

We have borders, what we lacked until now was a bunker mentality, which we are gaining from the rabid right... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
Yeah, never should of let all those Irish in, look what happened... :roll:

Bigot driven laws are not decent...

We have borders, what we lacked until now was a bunker mentality, which we are gaining from the rabid right... :peace
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I didn't realize the Irish came here illegally. Could you direct me to the facts you used to support this claim?
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Y'know, I remember back in the mid 80's, my friends and I in the Navy were Absolutely Sure that the Soviets were going to launch the nukes any day now. So we had our plans, our go-bags, our rifles, our survival gear. We were all so doggone serious about it.

It took me a while, but I began to realize that we'd been pretty silly...even given the fact that we were FAR closer then to global thermonuclear war than we are today.

And so I look at both of your posts...and I see myself thirty-odd years ago...and my advice for both of you is the same I wish I could have given myself when I thought as you did: Relax. Grab some beers and go fishing, and relax, and stop thinking that the world's a-gonna end. If it does, there's not much you can do about it except to die, maybe sooner, maybe later...but die you eventually would, from fallout if from nothing else.

You see, all that time and effort and money we spent on planning for the whole world going to ****...if only we'd have put all that into something like starting our own business, or putting some money down on a small lot where we could build a house. If only we'd have refrained from drinking the survivalist Kool-Aid.

Just something for both of you to think about.
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I remember those days also, and I thought like you do now, hey, nothing is going to happen so why prepare for it. Where you are mistaken is that I am not preparing for a Nukes being traded back and forth and it did not cost me a fortune to get to where I am today. I am preparing for as wide a range of possible disaster scenarios as possible, there are many possibilities and they do happen, ask those that have lost their businesses, homes and all their personal belongings and see if they wish they had better prepared for what came. You see under the illusion that Preppers are a bunch of Survivalist Nuts sitting in a bomb shelter waiting for the world to end, nothing could be further from the truth, those try to prepare for a possible disaster scenario comes from all walks of life and economic strata. More ad more people are realizing that if a disaster were to take place that they cannot count on the government, local, State, or Federal, to help them, and that they themselves need to ensure they had what they needed to remain safe and as well provided for as possible. Look at the news stands these days, there are several magazines that deal with the issue and notice that gun sales are rising weekly, not to mention the sales of outdoor gear, freeze dried meals, generators, solar power systems, and on and on.
So, do what you want, I am not trying to get to you to join with those that believe in being prepared, I am only trying to get you to open your eyes to the possibilities of what Could happen and leave it to you to do as you wish. Take it or leave it, your choice.
 
Mac77 said:
Paul ryan has not stood up to obama in any meaningful way

But for the sake of the inside washington establishment I think ryan would fight trump tooth and nail.
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Except when he has.

Or maybe he would do so for the good of the Nation.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Yes, the military had to be prepared...and was...and by being prepared, their preparations allowed those of us who weren't on the bleeding edge of those preparations to live normal lives. And that's what I'm saying - instead of lending any credence to the doom-and-gloom crowd, it's better to live one's life as if the worst ain't gonna happen.

There's a line by Samuel L. Jackson's character Nick Fury in the first Avengers movie, where somebody tells him that the world might end. His reply went something like, "The world has not ended, and until such time that the world does indeed end, I intend to live my life as if the world is going to continue on for the foreseeable future."

Don't get me wrong - in our garage, I've got a couple of large buckets of 25-year food. I've got a generator. I've got all the tools I need. But my time is too precious for me to spend my brain cells thinking about thermonuclear war when there's big-enough disasters that are much more likely, like the potential 9+ earthquake fault that lay not far off the Washington coast...and I see how building code up here is not nearly what California's is. An even more worrisome eventuality - and note the word "eventuality" - is a 1918-style pandemic...because there's more than a few influenzae strains that are much deadlier than H1N1 was. Like the next Carrington event, this will happen - we just have no idea when.

So...nah, I've got no time to worry about the nukes. I worry a heck of a lot more about making sure my family is safe and warm...and if the **** hits the fan, we'll deal with it. But until it does, we'll continue living our lives as best we can.
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So you are preparing but simply do not know it or want to admit it. As I said, it not about one type if disaster. Anyway, I had my say.
 
Manc Skipper said:
21 years and they'll be able to vote! The horror!
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yet they shouldn't be. Breaking the law should not entitle someone to the privileges of being an American citizen.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Thing is, I bought none of it to prepare for some apocalyptic event. The 25-year food was required when we ran an Adult Family Home. The generator came to us along with our medically-fragile Foster children. The tools are just stuff I got over the years to work around the house.

And I have no firearms - I see no real need for them (grew up with firearms, got my quals in my Navy career, owned a few over the years, but no longer see a need for them). That in itself should set me apart from Casper.
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I am sure you believe that not having a way to defend you "stuff" is a wise move, as I said life is full of choices. FYI, other than select few I already owned most of my firearms before getting more serious about the idea.
 
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