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How does Europe feel now?

SmokeAndMirrors said:
...Really?

I live here. And furthermore, I live in the place where most immigrants wind up going.

I haven't seen any hordes of immigrants trying to overthrow society. Or any hordes at all, really.

But what do I know? I just live here. Surely your fourth-hand gossip source knows more than I do.
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First hand accounts aside, sheer demo-graphical trends dictate that mass-migration will dramatically alter the make-up of many European nations especially ones with relatively small populations such as Sweden. It is entirely reasonable to suggest that Sweden may be a borderline majority Muslim country by the end of this century. If you are alright with the cultural implications this will have on these countries than it just is what it is.
 
Sweden said:
But the main point remains - the supposed 'children' pose a danger to those looking after them and to the public.
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this is true for anyone anywhere there are young people around.
 
Manc Skipper said:
The chart is what it is. It doesn't cover November, so it tells no lies.
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So maybe almost another three-quarters of a million people flooded into Germany in one month, eh? Come on, man. Your graph under-represents the problem. That's a problem.
 
Maybe almost? Facts are in short supply. The chart simply doesn't cover the period you claim this surge arrived, and I never claimed it did.
 
Sweden said:
I am not sure if the other residents had detained the murderer 'the narrative of the thread would have been ruined'. But this did not happen; he was overpowered by other staff members.
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Funny, several British papers and the BBC state the other kids got him and held him down. Whichever it was, it's a horrible trajedy - one paper here says the victim was herself descended from migrants from Lebanon.

Do you have any further info on the story?
 
Manc Skipper said:
It's really terrible, We're overrun!

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thats the legal numbers.


 


its only just begun.....
 
VanceMack said:


its only just begun.....
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Picture after picture after freaking picture, it's all young men, many of which are obviously not from Syria, yet those who support the misogynistic behavior they bring with them having budged an inch from all their dogma about refugee women and children.
 
starcitizen said:
Can you post a link regarding killing the families of terrorists? Also which race are you referring too exactly because Islam is not a race it is an anti-Semitic, totalitarian, misogynistic, homophobic, theocratic, and violent ideology no different from Nazism.
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Glad to do so.

Donald Trump on terrorists: 'Take out their families' - CNNPolitics.com

This, by the way, is one of many, many links to this particular type of Trump lunacy. The Internet is a wonderful tool. Try it sometime.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Funny, several British papers and the BBC state the other kids got him and held him down. Whichever it was, it's a horrible trajedy - one paper here says the victim was herself descended from migrants from Lebanon.

Do you have any further info on the story?
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Only that the 'boy' (who of course may be any age up to say, thirty), comes from Somalia.
 
Gardener said:
Picture after picture after freaking picture, it's all young men, many of which are obviously not from Syria, yet those who support the misogynistic behavior they bring with them having budged an inch from all their dogma about refugee women and children.
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But....the chirruns....think of the chirruns........how can you be so heartless?

 
Sweden said:
Only that the 'boy' (who of course may be any age up to say, thirty), comes from Somalia.
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Seen that too - but I haven't seen anywhere that the staff overpowered the killer. Only you wrote that; the sources you have may be in Swedish so I wouldn't be able to understand them. Just wanted to see why the story has such a different version of events as that supports or undermines the populist narrative attempted in the thread.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Seen that too - but I haven't seen anywhere that the staff overpowered the killer. Only you wrote that; the sources you have may be in Swedish so I wouldn't be able to understand them. Just wanted to see why the story has such a different version of events as that supports or undermines the populist narrative attempted in the thread.
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I believe I said a few posts ago that the report that staff had helped had been dropped. The poor lady was there alone. A Gothenburg paper reports today that a staff member has contacted them to say that she was delegated by colleagues several months ago to tell the supervising authority that the centre was undermanned at night and they were concerned for their safety.

The police in a statement today have said that they are uncertain of the killers identity - his name, his age, where he came from and whether he has any family.

I am uncertain what you mean about a 'populist narrative'. Do you think that this murder somehow never happened? Or that it has nothing to do with the uncontrolled migration into Sweden? Infinite chaos describes the dire situation very well.
 
Sweden said:
I believe I said a few posts ago that the report that staff had helped had been dropped.
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Thanks, hadn't seen your post. I don't have as much time these days to read all posts.

Sweden said:
~ I am uncertain what you mean about a 'populist narrative'. Do you think that this murder somehow never happened? Or that it has nothing to do with the uncontrolled migration into Sweden? Infinite chaos describes the dire situation very well.
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The populist narrative is how 700 million Europeans are at dire risk of being ruled by 44 million muslims anytime soon; that all the asylum seekers and migrants are 1) muslim, 2) men of military age 3) members of ISIS 4) on a rape jihad.

We have problems sure, there are jihadis among the migrants and asylum seekers sure, there was a terrible misjudgement made by Sweden and Germany to open doors and advertise it to the world sure but many of those seeking asylum are also genuine victims of war and oppression.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Thanks, hadn't seen your post. I don't have as much time these days to read all posts.



The populist narrative is how 700 million Europeans are at dire risk of being ruled by 44 million muslims anytime soon; that all the asylum seekers and migrants are 1) muslim, 2) men of military age 3) members of ISIS 4) on a rape jihad.

We have problems sure, there are jihadis among the migrants and asylum seekers sure, there was a terrible misjudgement made by Sweden and Germany to open doors and advertise it to the world sure but many of those seeking asylum are also genuine victims of war and oppression.
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I have never seen anyone suggest 1), 2), 3) or 4) and I bet you haven't either. My own take is that in excess of 90% of the migrants arriving here are both muslim and men of miltary age. That many are supporters of ISIS - not 'members' - as you recognise. And that an undetermined but significant number have a propensity to assault women. There may also be a few who have both the intention and the ability to integrate into Swedish society.
 
Sweden said:
I have never seen anyone suggest 1), 2), 3) or 4) and I bet you haven't either.
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You'd lose that bet. You're not familiar with the long term argument often proposed that this continent will one day become "Eurabia?" The refugee/migrant crisis is simply the latest version of that claim that muslims are actually proceeding on a universally agreed plan to overcome and dominate Europe.

Sweden said:
My own take is that in excess of 90% of the migrants arriving here are both muslim and men of miltary age. That many are supporters of ISIS - not 'members' - as you recognise. And that an undetermined but significant number have a propensity to assault women. There may also be a few who have both the intention and the ability to integrate into Swedish society.
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That's why you should have followed the UK's example and hand picked from refugee camps rather than (your leaders) opening doors and inviting all to come.
 
ernst barkmann said:
overthrow, funny how that word appears, and i never said it,.....something you threw in?

Well when news stories are reporting that they are seeing large numbers of people coming in, what other explanation is possible.
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Well then, define "overrun."
 
VanceMack said:
But....the chirruns....think of the chirruns........how can you be so heartless?

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31 year old Muslim rapists are considered children while their 13 and 14 year old victims are referred to as "so-called" children.

It is an inverted world we now live in,folks.
 
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