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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes, but the president can send back to Congress, his willingness to sign a bill "if" it meets x, y and z. And a sitting president can then make it known he will not sign the bill unless it includes x,y and z. To sign a bill into law and then blatantly disregard the damn law he signed because he found it unconstitutional in parts is beyond reasoning when he had the friggin power to veto it in the first place.
    Blatantly?

    Yes, he can send the bill back to congress. What does that do but delay the implementation of the good parts of a bill? The president can only ignore such passed laws that affect his executive decisions. He need not send a bill back for that.

    Are you of the opinion that congress can tell a president what he can and cannot do? Do you really believe congress should be elevated above the president? Don't you believe in the three equal powers?

    How many signing statements have you ever read? I suggest you read several, and see what most say.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Will you please attempt to understand my words?

    When it affects the executive branch and duties, yes. He can ignore them all day long. Congress should not be voting for any laws that encroach on the executive powers.
    Congress writes the laws, the executive enforces them. ONCE ITS LAW ITS LAW and must be enforced.
    The executive is actually designed to be the weakest part of our .gov for a reason.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    What your describing is Tyranny. Rule by fiat.
    Not at all. The president cannot change laws that affect things outside his executive branch.

    I am becoming to believe many of you are incapable of understanding another persons point of view.

    How can you present a reasonable argument when you are incapable of understanding the other side's view? Maybe you should give up, until you know what you are arguing against.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Congress writes the laws, the executive enforces them. ONCE ITS LAW ITS LAW and must be enforced.
    The executive is actually designed to be the weakest part of our .gov for a reason.
    Wow...

    Does the separation of powers just fly right over your head?

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Blatantly?

    Yes, he can send the bill back to congress. What does that do but delay the implementation of the good parts of a bill? The president can only ignore such passed laws that affect his executive decisions. He need not send a bill back for that.

    Are you of the opinion that congress can tell a president what he can and cannot do? Do you really believe congress should be elevated above the president? Don't you believe in the three equal powers?

    How many signing statements have you ever read? I suggest you read several, and see what most say.

    I am sorry but you obviously have no clue how our government works. But then again neither does sheila Jackson lee and i am not surprised.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    But his oath of office would seem to demand the he not enforce the law. He's not "preserving the constitution" if he enforces a law that he truly believes in unconstitutional.
    US Constitution, Article Two, Section One, Clause Eight:

    Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:— “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

    US Constitution, Section 3: Presidential responsibilities

    He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Wow...

    Does the separation of powers just fly right over your head?
    No it does your though.

    Separation of powers under the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Whatever i am done what scares me most is that you did vote for obama correct?

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    I am sorry but you obviously have no clue how our government works. But then again neither does sheila Jackson lee and i am not surprised.
    Maybe you should ask congress why they keep trying to impose illegal restrictions on the executive branch, and wonder why a president ignores them.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Not at all. The president cannot change laws that affect things outside his executive branch.

    I am becoming to believe many of you are incapable of understanding another persons point of view.

    How can you present a reasonable argument when you are incapable of understanding the other side's view? Maybe you should give up, until you know what you are arguing against.
    Point of view? This isn't up for debate and hasn't been since the last state ratified the US Constitution. Read Section 3 of the Constitution. The last line in the first paragraph.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Maybe you should ask congress why they keep trying to impose illegal restrictions on the executive branch, and wonder why a president ignores them.
    Like what?
    got links I do not even know what restrictions you are talking about. hey here is an idea just follow the constitution and be done with it.

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