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Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama['W:189]

Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

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Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

Redress said:
At this rate, Romney might win the election in only a few millennia.
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Which rate... the one where a week or so ago Dems were pounding their chest to double digit poll leads, and everyone said hold on its going to be much closer than that... when Romney gets the nomination support will unify and the polls will swing... and those people were ridiculed... Only... without completely wrapping up the nomination Romney is the essential nominee now... and look what happened to the polls, they went even... (until NBC news put out a poll with Obama having a small lead, with a large group of undecideds that will likely favor Romney)... and sit just a point or two apart... Guess what those will look like at the end of next week... when Romney wins the primaries in NY, CT, RI, and PA on the same night...

Hop on board... we await your realistic look at Obama's continued failed divisive partisan leadership vs the opportunity for massive growth under new positive cooperative leadership under Romney...
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

IndepCentristMA said:
Which rate... the one where a week or so ago Dems were pounding their chest to double digit poll leads, and everyone said hold on its going to be much closer than that... when Romney gets the nomination support will unify and the polls will swing... and those people were ridiculed... Only... without completely wrapping up the nomination Romney is the essential nominee now... and look what happened to the polls, they went even... (until NBC news put out a poll with Obama having a small lead, with a large group of undecideds that will likely favor Romney)... and sit just a point or two apart... Guess what those will look like at the end of next week... when Romney wins the primaries in NY, CT, RI, and PA on the same night...

Hop on board... we await your realistic look at Obama's continued failed divisive partisan leadership vs the opportunity for massive growth under new positive cooperative leadership under Romney...
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Here is a hint: read the post I was responding to, then you can understand the reference. Just trying to help.
 
Re: Mitt Romney doesn't just draw swing voters, he draws swing Senators II

AdamT said:
This is all pretty humorous, given the fact that virtually everyone who has very grudgingly endorsed Mittens looked like they were suppressing a gag reflex when they did the deed. The ringing endorsements can generally be boiled down to, "well ... I guess there's no other choice.... (sniff)"
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Really? Cuz McCain was out there early and often... so wasn't Gov, Christie, who everyone thought might also run... He won the Trump endorsement sweepstakes... I'd actually have to question what major endorsement went to another candidate? Only ones you can think of were Rick Perry and Sarah Palin backing Newt Gingrich... The fact that Mitt Romney is not Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, and Newt Gingrich is a major plus in my opinion (and I think most voters will agree)...

He's had great endorsements all along from most of the leaders in the states the primaries go towards... He's had less support from the old established guys who tend to hang back to just back the nominee...

Although, that's also by the fact that Romney isn't the solid Republican Party hack... so it wouldn't surprise that he hasn't had complete support of old hard line Republicans... He works with both sides, and is a fairly moderate Republican... so he's got supporters and haters on both sides... but is amassing a huge coalition... and as more people see Mitt on a regular basis, and not just the political hacks comments about Mitt they're warming to him...
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

Redress said:
Here is a hint: read the post I was responding to, then you can understand the reference. Just trying to help.
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I read the post... I still feel you're mitigating the rate at which these 1 at a times are jumping ship and coalescing around Romney... He's getting 2-3 major endorsements per week... at that rate by November he'll have the entire house and senate on his side...
 
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I love all these posts as "just Big Coal"... yeah, that's all... just a staple industry and energy source for millions of Americans in battleground states, such as PA, WV, VA, NC, etc.

Yeah, why would we want to support the industries which will be a major source of our economic recovery...

Hey, if you're not a fan of economic recovery, try to keep the existing guy in office, he's doing an amazing job of extending the anemic recovery...
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

IndepCentristMA said:
I read the post... I still feel you're mitigating the rate at which these 1 at a times are jumping ship and coalescing around Romney... He's getting 2-3 major endorsements per week... at that rate by November he'll have the entire house and senate on his side...
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Those major endorsements are coming from republicans. If there is any story in them it is the tepid nature of some of those endorsements and how slow they are in coming. This story is not about an endorsement. Further, the post I repsonded to(which you cliam to have read but don't seem to actually have) was suggesting that the rate of conversion was 1 at a time, which is where my comment came from.
 
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Redress said:
Those major endorsements are coming from republicans. If there is any story in them it is the tepid nature of some of those endorsements and how slow they are in coming. This story is not about an endorsement. Further, the post I repsonded to(which you cliam to have read but don't seem to actually have) was suggesting that the rate of conversion was 1 at a time, which is where my comment came from.
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they can only come 1 at a time... just like alcoholics only stay sober 1 day at a time... that's what he meant... but they're converting in mass as a whole... and on November 6th is the only day when a large mass of them will come at the same time... My family is a fairly mixed breed of political views... all over the map... but oddly enough, for this and only this election ever are we are united behind a candidate... Romney... that's the feeling the nation is going to have soon... It's the same feeling we had when Reagan swept Carter and Mondale... that regulatory paternal government creates stagnant economy, whereas letting go of the reins of the us industry allows us to grow and vastly outperform our competitors...
 
Re: Mitt Romney doesn't just draw swing voters, he draws swing Senators II

IndepCentristMA said:
Really? Cuz McCain was out there early and often...
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I'll give you that! :lol:

 
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IndepCentristMA said:
they can only come 1 at a time... just like alcoholics only stay sober 1 day at a time... that's what he meant... but they're converting in mass as a whole... and on November 6th is the only day when a large mass of them will come at the same time... My family is a fairly mixed breed of political views... all over the map... but oddly enough, for this and only this election ever are we are united behind a candidate... Romney... that's the feeling the nation is going to have soon... It's the same feeling we had when Reagan swept Carter and Mondale... that regulatory paternal government creates stagnant economy, whereas letting go of the reins of the us industry allows us to grow and vastly outperform our competitors...
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I think the problem for Ubama this next election is people know a hell of a lot more about him than they did before his "first election". Remember it was the discouraged Bush voters and the whites who put him into office, but even now some democrats who haven't been corrupted by the commies, Marxists and Statists have a choice this coming November between someone more like one of those-Ubama ..........or...........one that could at least be more in line with the Constitution-Romney. A lot of voters are going to be willing to take the chance on someone NEW, rather than what they already know about how Ubama will govern and I'm sure those voters are also aware the with this being Ubama's "last election"...he will govern with unrestrained authority.
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

Rapunzel52 said:
I think the problem for Ubama this next election is people know a hell of a lot more about him than they did before his "first election". Remember it was the discouraged Bush voters and the whites who put him into office, but even now some democrats who haven't been corrupted by the commies, Marxists and Statists have a choice this coming November between someone more like one of those-Ubama ..........or...........one that could at least be more in line with the Constitution-Romney. A lot of voters are going to be willing to take the chance on someone NEW, rather than what they already know about how Ubama will govern and I'm sure those voters are also aware the with this being Ubama's "last election"...he will govern with unrestrained authority.
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When you cannot even spell his name right, why would I take your opinions of him seriously?
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

cpwill said:
Well, Well. That's interesting. It looks like someone thinks that West Virginia is pretty much definitely going red in 2012.
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Has that outcome ever been in doubt?

Given the Obama Administrations' assault on the Coal industry, that's not entirely astonishing.
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Or maybe he's a senator who is up for reelection from a state where Obama's approval rating is among the lowest in the country. :2wave:
 
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Kandahar said:
Or maybe he's a senator who is up for reelection from a state where Obama's approval rating is among the lowest in the country. :2wave:
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Is it therefore inconceiveable that he shares in the disapproval?

Bringing this up with the little "wave" seems to indicate you think he doesn't.
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

Redress said:
When you cannot even spell his name right, why would I take your opinions of him seriously?
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Never thought you would and really don't care what you think. Contrary to your belief, I'm not here for you. Feel free to put me on ignore.
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

Redress said:
When you cannot even spell his name right, why would I take your opinions of him seriously?
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Well... in actuality Arabic doesn't have an "O" vowel, just A, I, and U... which is why you see people write Ussama... The same applies to Barrack... whose name in Arabic is actually Ubama...
 
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Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

Redress said:
When you cannot even spell his name right, why would I take your opinions of him seriously?
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I have far more faith and respect for those who spell the President's name with worthy contempt than I do for those brain-deads who support him.

Smoke that for a bit. ;)
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

IndepCentristMA said:
Well... in actuality Arabic doesn't have an "O" vowel, just A, I, and U... which is why you see people write Ussama... The same applies to Barrack... whose name in Arabic is actually Ubama...
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It takes someone with intelligence to get that.
 
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I really don't find it surprising, anymore than when a New England based republican votes with democrats. Electorally West Virginia doesn't matter a lot. You won't see either candidate concentrate very hard on it. Now if you said a democrat from North Carolina or Ohio wasn't sure, that would actually be interesting.
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

IndepCentristMA said:
Well... in actuality Arabic doesn't have an "O" vowel, just A, I, and U... which is why you see people write Ussama... The same applies to Barrack... whose name in Arabic is actually Ubama...
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No ****? Gee, so clever. This has what to do with the spelling of his name in this country? PROTIP: the US is not an Arab country, nor do we speak Arabic nor use the Arabic alphabet.
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

Harshaw said:
Is it therefore inconceiveable that he shares in the disapproval?
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No...but it's not particularly surprising. I don't think Obama was planning to compete in West Virginia anyway; it's not exactly a swing state anymore.

Bringing this up with the little "wave" seems to indicate you think he doesn't.
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I don't think that emoticon means what you think it means.
 
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Kandahar said:
No...but it's not particularly surprising. I don't think Obama was planning to compete in West Virginia anyway; it's not exactly a swing state anymore.



I don't think that emoticon means what you think it means.
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Then what did you mean by it?
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

Harshaw said:
Then what did you mean by it?
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Obama's approval rating in West Virginia is lower than in almost any other state in the country; he almost certainly isn't planning to compete in West Virginia and the state will almost certainly vote for Romney for president this fall (barring some sort of epic collapse). So it's not surprising that a Democratic senator from West Virginia who is up for reelection is going to distance himself from Obama. It doesn't really matter if it's because he sincerely doesn't know how he's going to vote, or if he's just telling people what they want to hear. In either case, the political incentives are such that this shouldn't exactly come as a shock.
 
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Kandahar said:
Obama's approval rating in West Virginia is lower than in almost any other state in the country; he almost certainly isn't planning to compete in West Virginia and the state will almost certainly vote for Romney for president this fall (barring some sort of epic collapse). So it's not surprising that a Democratic senator from West Virginia who is up for reelection is going to distance himself from Obama. It doesn't really matter if it's because he sincerely doesn't know how he's going to vote, or if he's just telling people what they want to hear. In either case, the political incentives are such that this shouldn't exactly come as a shock.
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Then I got it right. :shrug: You were suggesting this is a political move on his part rather than his sincere disapproval, and the little wave was meant to emphasize it.
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

cpwill said:
Well, Well. That's interesting. It looks like someone thinks that West Virginia is pretty much definitely going red in 2012. Given the Obama Administrations' assault on the Coal industry, that's not entirely astonishing.
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Manchin is a Democrat like all of those other good ol' boy southerners are democrats.
 
Re: Dem Senator "Doesn't Know" if he's going to vote for Obama

Kandahar said:
Obama's approval rating in West Virginia is lower than in almost any other state in the country; he almost certainly isn't planning to compete in West Virginia and the state will almost certainly vote for Romney for president this fall (barring some sort of epic collapse). So it's not surprising that a Democratic senator from West Virginia who is up for reelection is going to distance himself from Obama. It doesn't really matter if it's because he sincerely doesn't know how he's going to vote, or if he's just telling people what they want to hear. In either case, the political incentives are such that this shouldn't exactly come as a shock.
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Obama's approval rating in West Virginia is hardly surprising, given the fact that half the electorate think he's the ant-christ. Something about all that cousin marrying, I think.
 
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