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Shellie Zimmerman files for divorce

justabubba said:
she refuses - as does her father - to prosecute zimmerman ... note there was no arrest
Zimmerman questioned by police for allegedly threatening wife with gun | The Raw Story
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Realistically, if he is criminally charged....what do you think happens to any remaining income or assets? Does it get split or does it go to pay for more lawyers for George?

#1 - totally common for domestic issues NOT to end in arrest.( Hell, even a severely beaten spouse may refuse to press charges and make up stories for her injuries)

#2 Shelly could have thought he was armed and got freaked that an armed man was expressing open hostility towards her and her family and felt bad when she realized he was unarmed.

#3. Shelly could have been making the whole thing up.

#4 Things we don't know.
 
justabubba said:
what is wrong is to make false claims
be challenged to defend them
insist that the claims can be defended
but refuse to do so
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The fact that you even had to ask such a imbecilic question points out the intellectual dishonesty. You did not deserve a relevant answer. You act like you did not see any of the articles or reports surrounding the negligence and out and out lies by certain media outlets, Shameful.

justabubba said:
not calling him a liar
just saying his post i referenced is nothing but a lie
he is unable to defend it
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Yea you did not imply SHE was a liar. :roll:

justabubba said:
as i notice you have been unable to do
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Oh really?

NBC told this blog today that it would investigate its handling of a piece on the “Today” show that ham-handedly abridged the conversation between George Zimmerman and a dispatcher in the moments before the death of Trayvon Martin. A statement from NBC: - NBC Deceptively Edits George Zimmerman’s Words On 911 Tape

Let's start with a story about Zimmerman. One year prior to Trayvon's tragic death, the Orlando Sentinel reported that Zimmerman protested the unfair treatment of a homeless black man named Sherman Ware. George demanded the arrest of the alleged perpetrator who mistreated Mr. Ware. However, no arrest was not made until after Zimmerman went to Sanford black churches, handed out flyers, and pressed for action. Does this sound like the racist murderer the media depicted him as?
Fast forward to the media coverage immediately following Trayvon's death. Were there any stories to validate claims of a racist Zimmerman? No. Instead, the media did all it could to stoke the flames of racial divide. For example, Trayvon was often portrayed as a sweet 12-year-old, vice the fully grown young man he had become. Did CNN ever portray Zimmerman as a lovable 12-year-old? - George Zimmerman, media bias and the facts - Silver City Sun-News

Both of these I mentioned to you previously in this very thread....

http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimme...zimmerman-files-divorce-4.html#post1062289354

But you can respond to my last post dishonestly and factually incorrect.

Sorry but we know who was telling the truth and who is not.
 
Black Manta said:
The fact that you even had to ask such a imbecilic question points out the intellectual dishonesty. You did not deserve a relevant answer. You act like you did not see any of the articles or reports surrounding the negligence and out and out lies by certain media outlets, Shameful.
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here is the post i asked to be proven:
nota bene said:
Except that it wasn't a "mistake"; it was willful, manipulative deception.
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Yea you did not imply SHE was a liar. :roll:
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that poster insisted they could prove the above post but chose not to
so, when one insists they can do something and then are unable to do so, that is a lie
i believe there is a widely used expression for those that tell them


Oh really?
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yes. but prove me wrong. show us any proof of what was posted above
the forum member who posted cannot
and you have failed to offer any proof of it

so, it is nothing more than manufactured, ignorant, unsubstantiated tripe

NBC told this blog today that it would investigate its handling of a piece on the “Today” show that ham-handedly abridged the conversation between George Zimmerman and a dispatcher in the moments before the death of Trayvon Martin. A statement from NBC: - NBC Deceptively Edits George Zimmerman’s Words On 911 Tape

Let's start with a story about Zimmerman. One year prior to Trayvon's tragic death, the Orlando Sentinel reported that Zimmerman protested the unfair treatment of a homeless black man named Sherman Ware. George demanded the arrest of the alleged perpetrator who mistreated Mr. Ware. However, no arrest was not made until after Zimmerman went to Sanford black churches, handed out flyers, and pressed for action. Does this sound like the racist murderer the media depicted him as?
Fast forward to the media coverage immediately following Trayvon's death. Were there any stories to validate claims of a racist Zimmerman? No. Instead, the media did all it could to stoke the flames of racial divide. For example, Trayvon was often portrayed as a sweet 12-year-old, vice the fully grown young man he had become. Did CNN ever portray Zimmerman as a lovable 12-year-old? - George Zimmerman, media bias and the facts - Silver City Sun-News

Both of these I mentioned to you previously in this very thread....

http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimme...zimmerman-files-divorce-4.html#post1062289354

But you can respond to my last post dishonestly and factually incorrect.

Sorry but we know who was telling the truth and who is not.
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nothing you have offered proves the post i have shown above
the one the poster is unable to defend
 
justabubba said:
here is the post i asked to be proven:

that poster insisted they could prove the above post but chose not to
so, when one insists they can do something and then are unable to do so, that is a lie
i believe there is a widely used expression for those that tell them

yes. but prove me wrong. show us any proof of what was posted above
the forum member who posted cannot
and you have failed to offer any proof of it

so, it is nothing more than manufactured, ignorant, unsubstantiated tripe

nothing you have offered proves the post i have shown above
the one the poster is unable to defend
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:lamo

OK Justabbaba, you have proved beyond a reasonable doubt your posts are worthless. Unsubstantiated tripe, LMAO! OK.
 
Black Manta said:
:lamo

OK Justabbaba, you have proved beyond a reasonable doubt your posts are worthless. Unsubstantiated tripe, LMAO! OK.
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Posted by nota bene View Post
Except that it wasn't a "mistake"; it was willful, manipulative deception.
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Hate to break it for you....but bubba is right

You and others have ZERO evidence of it being willful, manipulative deception

I'd suggest you re-read every post/every word again
 
ric27 said:
Hate to break it for you....but bubba is right

You and others have ZERO evidence of it being willful, manipulative deception

I'd suggest you re-read every post/every word again
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Purposely using a picture of a 12 year old Martin AFTER it was known he was 17?

“The images used are clearly prejudicial to both men,” said Kenny Irby, Poynter’s senior faculty for visual journalism and diversity. “If those are the repeating images, then we continually reinforce prejudice and negative emotions. We never get to appreciate the life experience or further context of either individual.” - The iconic photos of Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman & why you may not see the others | Poynter.

Purposely calling Zimmerman a "white hispanic" a term never used before AFTER it was known he is indeed Hispanic.

On Wednesday, CNN once again referred to Hispanic defendant George Zimmerman as a “white Hispanic who is on trial for last year’s shooting death of Trayvon Martin, a black teen, in Sanford city.” The term “white Hispanic” was coined by the media after outlets wrongly labeled Zimmerman white; Zimmerman’s father is white, and his mother is Hispanic. On March 8, 2012, the Associated Press wrote, “The neighborhood watch leader is white.” When it came out that he was not, media outlets including CNN began labeling Zimmerman a “white Hispanic” in order to maintain the false narrative that the killing was race-based. -http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/11/CNN-white-hispanic

Purposely editing the 911 call to make Zimmerman sound racist and then correcting it AFTER NBC got called on it and people were fired over it?

NBC Universal Media responded to the Zimmerman complaint by noting that other media outlets played up the racial angle of Zimmerman’s deadly encounter with Trayvon Martin.
The company also noted the pivotal nature of the second-degree murder case: “f Zimmerman is convicted, that fact alone will constitute substantial evidence that the destruction of his reputation is the result of his own criminal conduct, and not of the broadcasts at issue which, like countless other news reports disseminated by media entities throughout the country, reported on the underlying events.” - Zimmerman lawyer to move ‘asap’ against NBC News

So come again?
 
Sykes said:
Nope. She found out George is cheating on her.
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What a jacka**. Especially after she stayed with through everything that happened.
 
Ari said:
What a jacka**. Especially after she stayed with through everything that happened.
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I didn't know I could possibly have a lower opinion of the man, until I read that news.
 
Sykes said:
I didn't know I could possibly have a lower opinion of the man, until I read that news.
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Yeah, he's a real character.
 
Ari said:
What a jacka**. Especially after she stayed with through everything that happened.
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Sykes said:
I didn't know I could possibly have a lower opinion of the man, until I read that news.
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If she only stuck around because of the possible money, I believe that would be more damming of her than George trying to get on with his life.
 
Excon said:


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If she only stuck around because of the possible money, I believe that would be more damming of her than George trying to get on with his life.
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That's certainly a possibility.
 
Lots of men have cheated and will cheat. I think it's a mark on his character, but this overall is much ado about nothing, seriously.

The righteous indignation shown by some is however hilarious.
 
Excon said:


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If she only stuck around because of the possible money, I believe that would be more damming of her than George trying to get on with his life.
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I don't excuse cheats. I don't give a **** what YOU call it - trying to 'get on with his life'? Really??

No. He's a cheating cheater who cheats.
 
justabubba said:
is there a cite available discussing this allegation?
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George Zimmerman taken into police custody after 'getting into altercation involving gun' | Mail Online

George Zimmerman was today questioned by police after allegedly threatening his estranged wife with a handgun in an altercation sparked by claims he has been having an affair, MailOnline can reveal.

Friend and key defense witness John Donnelly told MailOnline: 'George has been having an affair with his ex-fiancee. Shellie believes it flared back up after the acquittal.'

Zimmerman's only publicly known former fiancee was beautician Veronica Zuazo, who herself filed a domestic violence complaint against him in a messy series of counter complaints that led to their split.
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This is not the woman that was with him the day of the altercation.

George Zimmerman's affair with a SECOND woman who was with him when arrested | Mail Online

George Zimmerman has been accused of cheating on his wife with a SECOND woman who was by his side on the afternoon of his dramatic showdown with estranged wife Shellie, MailOnline can reveal today.

It emerged today that a blonde woman was with Zimmerman on Monday afternoon at the house - where Zimmerman, 29, and his wife Shellie, 26, hid out for much of the Trayvon Martin murder trial - when Shellie confronted her husband over his serial infidelity as they split their belongings days after she filed for divorce.

At the end of her 911 call she can be heard shouting: 'There's a woman in there!'

Video footage of the incident shows a blonde woman on the scene as Zimmerman is cuffed and questioned by police. A police report issued by Lake Mary police today named a Samantha Scheibe as being in his car when police arrived.
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justabubba said:
is there a cite available discussing this allegation?
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The old girlfriend told investigators a year ago that George was calling her after his marriage...

Shellie Zimmerman spoke on ABC news.
 
Black Manta said:
Lots of men have cheated and will cheat. I think it's a mark on his character, but this overall is much ado about nothing, seriously.
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I agree if it was before the relationship was over.
If it is after the relationship was over, not at all.

Black Manta said:
The righteous indignation shown by some is however hilarious.
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:thumbs:




Sykes said:
I don't excuse cheats. I don't give a **** what YOU call it - trying to 'get on with his life'? Really??

No. He's a cheating cheater who cheats.
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I don't call it cheating if the relationship is over, because in that case it isn't.
I would actually find that position to be ridiculously absurd for a person to assert such.
So if the relationship is over (but for the official paperwork and such), it is him just trying to get on with his life.
I seriously hope under those circumstance that you don't think that is cheating.





justabubba said:
is there a cite available discussing this allegation?
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Cite?
An allegation has been reported.
Don't know if it is true though.

George Zimmerman's affair with a SECOND woman who was with him when arrested | Mail Online




And in case anyone is still wondering...

Shellie retracted her claim of a gun being involved.
Which means there is no allegation of a gun being involved.
And the Police did not find a gun, even after cuffing Zimmerman.
That is the current evidence.
Unless that evidence changes, by the evidence, there was no gun involved.
Anybody who says otherwise, even if they cite O'Mara, is severely confused, can't reason, or is just lying.

O'Mara ≠ an Official Police investigation/report.
O'Mara ≠ a participant of what happened.
O'Mara ≠ a spokesperson for what happened.​
 
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Ari said:
That's certainly a possibility.
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Well it is reported that as part of her divorce settlement request, she wants George to take out a life insurance Policy with her as the beneficiary.
To me that sounds like she is more interested in money than anything else.
 
Excon said:
Well it is reported that as part of her divorce settlement request, she wants George to take out a life insurance Policy with her as the beneficiary.
To me that sounds like she is more interested in money than anything else.
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QUICK money, at that!
 
Excon said:
Well it is reported that as part of her divorce settlement request, she wants George to take out a life insurance Policy with her as the beneficiary.
To me that sounds like she is more interested in money than anything else.
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From what I can tell working in the insurance industry, that really is not that uncommon. I don't have any numbers, but I see it all the time even though I don't work directly with that stuff.
 
buck said:
From what I can tell working in the insurance industry, that really is not that uncommon.
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Be that as it may, it is still about the money, or in other words, greed.
It really isn't that different from a couple with one spouse in the Military getting divorced after two or three years.
The spouse who wasn't in the Military asks for half of the other spouses retirement. It is ridiculous and motivated by greed.

One may want to point the finger at the lawyer all they want. But it is still the individual signing off on, and not saying no to what their lawyer is doing.


This is of course based on the limited amount of information available about their divorce.
The only thing that would make this request appropriate would be a promise that gave her a vested interest which she would loose if he were killed before fulfillment.
 
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Not surprised. Women have all the options in the world. There is certainly a poor schmuck waiting in the shadows for this divorce to be completed so he can get with her and he will get what he deserves. I am sure there are many people in her life trying to pull her away from her husband telling her she can "do better". There are so many outside influences in current day marriges that tear families apart and the ease of divorce today with no fault divorces just accelerates the problem. This is why kids in the current generation are in so much trouble and society as a whole is degrading.
 
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