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Black America's True Nemesis: Liberals, Not Zimmerman [W:54]

On October 21st 2011 a burglary took place a few blocks from Krop Senior High School where Trayvon Martin attended. The stolen property outlined in the Miami-Dade Police Report (PD111021-422483) matches the descriptive presented by SRO Dunn in his School Police report 2011-11477.

[Excerpt]

Read more:
M-DSPD Cover Up – The Curious Case Of Trayvon Martin’s Backpack With Stolen Jewelry and Burglary Tool… | The Last Refuge

I normally don't challenge sources.

But something besides a blog on a pro-Z site would be nice.

Or at least the report she mentions.

I am not going to porr through god knows how many pages looking for it.

I did find this:

Miami-Dade Police Department: Trayvon Martin Not Tied to Any Reported Jewelry Thefts | TheBlaze.com

So...
 
My point is you have to be pretty naive to not know what he was up to with the skittles and the Watermelon drink. ( skittles an watermelon- 2 of the 3 ingredient in lean- ANOTHER coincidecne!!)

But actually I don't think you're naive, just an apologist.

Jesus H Christ!

Guess who invented watermelon drink and skittles "lean"?

A poster on the Conservative Treehouse, based on a stoner thread on cannabis.com:

watermelon drank

And apparently the fact that Coricidin pills are called "skittles".

Every other reference I can find tracks back to this article.

Dumb dumb DUMB dumb dumb
 
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I am posting these interchanges on EXACTLY the same argument in the thread: "Hey Martin Supporters...etc....." into THIS thread : "Black America's True nemesis...etc..." because you and I will agree that throws an interesting perspective on BOTH of the sides of the issue.

Personally, I know very little about the research or the conclusions to be made (except on my last post).....that's up to YOU reader.

From thread: "Hey Martin Supporters...etc.."

What if's (MAYBE Lib ?)RESPONSE to Grim:

"The premise that the watermelon drink and skittles are two of three ingredients of "lean" was born on The Conservative Treehouse.

There is no evidence that these are "lean" ingredients beyond this site.

Sprite and jolly ranchers is the "classic" recipe.

Watermelon drink and skittles COULD be used, but so could ginger ale and jawbreakers, or ANY combination of drink and candy.

But watermelon drink and skittles could just as well be watermelon drink and skittles.

COMPLETE speculation based on a post on a board that cites a stoner discussion on cannabis. com.

Your video is NOT proof that M was purchasing the ingredients for "lean". It is only an internet circle jerk based on a false premise."

Same thread as above, Page 33:
Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post

"False premis...Say what?

I'm not playing your game, so you have a nice day now."

What if's (MAYBE Lib ?)RESPONSE to Grim:

"The premise that the watermelon drink and skittles are two of three ingredients of "lean" was born on The Conservative Treehouse.

There is no evidence that these are "lean" ingredients beyond this site.

Sprite and jolly ranchers is the "classic" recipe.

Watermelon drink and skittles COULD be used, but so could ginger ale and jawbreakers, or ANY combination of drink and candy.

But watermelon drink and skittles could just as well be watermelon drink and skittles.

COMPLETE speculation based on a post on a board that cites a stoner discussion on cannabis. com.

Your video is NOT proof that M was purchasing the ingredients for "lean". It is only an internet circle jerk based on a false premise."

GRIM'S RESPONSE:
"Sure it is... But Whittle didn't say that is definitely what he intended, just that those were the ingredience... When you add up the screen shots of him trying to score codeine on-line and being told about "lean", the side effects of lean, and what was found on his liver, you have speculation that has some very interesting circumstantial evidence supporting it.

You can pretend all day long that it isn't, but that's your issue, not mine."


Interchange between Clownboy and WHAT IF..:

Clownboy's response to WHAT IF:

'So, you admit they could have been purchased and used for the making of lean/purple drank but you don't want to go down that road, fine. It may not be proof that's what TM was doing, but it's definitely a legitimate counter to the meme that he was this innocent young waif coming home from buying a kid's treat of iced tea and skittles."

Same Thread as above. Page 34:

TO what if: "Sure it is... But Whittle didn't say that is definitely what he intended, just that those were the ingredience... When you add up the screen shots of him trying to score codeine on-line and being told about "lean", the side effects of lean, and what was found on his liver, you have speculation that has some very interesting circumstantial evidence supporting it.

You can pretend all day long that it isn't, but that's your issue, not mine."

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Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post:

"I have defended Z against claims of racism repeatedly.

Feel free to check.

You got a link of some kind to watermelon drink being a "popular" ingredient?

I only found links to the CT post (or articles based on it) when doing searches. No skittles as the candy either. The shells have no "flavor".
"Skittles" is slang for Coricidin pills, though, which also contain DXM.

MY RESPONSE to poster WHAT IF:

"I'm not going thru the posts to determine if you're a Black Racist scum, or a Black Racist Enabling DEM Lib/Gay turd ..... they're enough around so that one need not find another one. Simply not worth it.

IMO, on the balance, Clownboy's thesis is more apt to describe this issue, i.e., : "...... It is true that the "dead guy" shouldn't have his character "assassinated" just because he died. Equally true he shouldn't have his character elevated to imply his innocence either. "

Since......maybe, not YOU.... but the Black Racist Scum, and the Black Racist Enabling DEM Lib/Gay turds .....the type that are howling bloody murder, and doing that LITERALLY....... THESE buttholes, to quote Clownboy (slightly paraphrased): "note how ( NOT, maybe YOU) but the buttholes ..... have no problem with the character assassination of GZ and howl bloody murder when the same tactic is applied to TM."

THAT......I agree with Clownboy 1000%.
 
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Am I not mistaken or did the photo of the Skittles at the scene show it had not been opened yet? Anyone know the answer to that? If it was opened and he eating it then it wasn't likely for "Lean." If unopened, a very good chance. I doubt many teens would buy candy and walk home not eating any of it. If he was eating it, then it wasn't for any other purpose.
 
Moderator's Warning:
There have already been some infractions levied. The personal attacks stop now or I will happily hand out more.

oooh, oooh, do me, do me!!!!!!!
 
Am I not mistaken or did the photo of the Skittles at the scene show it had not been opened yet? Anyone know the answer to that? If it was opened and he eating it then it wasn't likely for "Lean." If unopened, a very good chance. I doubt many teens would buy candy and walk home not eating any of it. If he was eating it, then it wasn't for any other purpose.

from looking at the crime scene photos, neither drink nor candy had been opened.
 
from looking at the crime scene photos, neither drink nor candy had been opened.

It really isn't all that important, except it doe sshow the ridiculous lengths that liberal enablers wil go to close their eyes to avoid the obvious.
And you can belive that if Zimmerman had texted his friends tha he was into doing 'lean' and he was found with skittles and watermelon drink on him, they sure as hell wouldn't be bending over backwards to claim it was just candy and a drink.
 
It really isn't all that important, except it doe sshow the ridiculous lengths that liberal enablers wil go to close their eyes to avoid the obvious.
And you can belive that if Zimmerman had texted his friends tha he was into doing 'lean' and he was found with skittles and watermelon drink on him, they sure as hell wouldn't be bending over backwards to claim it was just candy and a drink.

it just seems odd that a guy would walk nearly a mile in the rain to simply buy a can of watermelon drink and a bag of skittles for his little "brother", as was claimed.
 
it just seems odd that a guy would walk nearly a mile in the rain to simply buy a can of watermelon drink and a bag of skittles for his little "brother", as was claimed.

He didn't seem like the type to do this... did he. I think it's pretty obvious to most reasonable people [who looked at his background] why he bought them and didn't open on way home.
 
He didn't seem like the type to do this... did he. I think it's pretty obvious to most reasonable people [who looked at his background] why he bought them and didn't open on way home.


I don't know any teenagers who would be the "type" to walk nearly a mile in the rain just to buy their father's girlfriend's son a bag of skittles. the vast majority of 17 y/o kids would be like "**** that ****, you want some skittles? you walk your ass to the store in the rain to get 'em"
 
it just seems odd that a guy would walk nearly a mile in the rain to simply buy a can of watermelon drink and a bag of skittles for his little "brother", as was claimed.

Uh yeahh-a little.
 
I normally don't challenge sources.

But something besides a blog on a pro-Z site would be nice.

Or at least the report she mentions.

I am not going to porr through god knows how many pages looking for it.

I did find this:

Miami-Dade Police Department: Trayvon Martin Not Tied to Any Reported Jewelry Thefts | TheBlaze.com

So...


by sundance
May 1, 2013

"On October 21st 2011 a burglary took place a few blocks from Krop Senior High School where Trayvon Martin attended. The stolen property outlined in the Miami-Dade Police Report (PD111021-422483) matches the descriptive presented by SRO Dunn in his School Police report 2011-11477.

However, there was ONE big issue. SRO Dunn never filed a criminal report, nor opened a criminal investigation, surrounding the stolen jewelry. Instead, and as a result of pressure from M-DSPD Chief Hurley to avoid criminal reports for black male students, Dunn wrote up the jewelry as “found items”, and transferred them, along with the burglary tool, to the Miami-Dade Police property room where they sat on a shelf unassigned to anyone for investigation."
One of the examples of this in action was the jewelry incident and Trayvon Martin – as accidentally outlined in the Herald report. But the Herald never knew their reporting had launched an internal affairs investigation which led to the collapse of the scheme.

Meanwhile the stolen jewelry from the burglary (PD111021-422483) was sitting on a shelf in the Property Room listed as (2011-11477 “found items) gathering dust.

Until we started digging, and the FOIA requests revealed not only the scheme, but the fact a victim was never made whole with the return of their items.

That is, until now.

Yesterday we contacted Detective Manresa, assigned to the burglary case, of the Miami-Dade Police Department to notify him some of his victims’ stolen items were actually in the Miami-Dade property room:

Subject: Attn: Detective Omar Manresa [RE: PD111021-422483 Burglary at XXXX XX XXXXX]

Dear Detective Manresa,

Per phone conversation of 4/30/13 @ 10:20am regarding burglary incident #PD111021-422483

During the course of research surrounding an internal affairs M-DSPD investigation in March/April of 2012 it coincidentally came to our attention that School Resource Officer Darryl Dunn (Dr. Krop Senior High School) filled out a report of items from a student’s backpack without criminal attachment.

The internal documentation used by SRO Dunn only listed the contents of the backpack as “found items” and a burglary tool. He was trying to avoid subjecting the student [Trayvon Martin] to a criminal investigation, therefore no criminal report, nor investigation was initiated.

This action by SRO Dunn was taken at the direction and request of former M-DSPD Police Chief Hurley who had advised his officers to avoid writing criminal reports on student offenders; Apparently in an attempt to artificially improve the recorded criminal student statistics.

The internal report #2011-11477 never attached the stolen property to the student who was carrying it when searched. The property was taken to the custody of Carmen Gonzalez, Property Specialist, where it was held, and still should be located.

The details surrounding this event are outlined in the following sworn affidavits completed by members of the Miami-Dade School Police Department. (they are extensive)


See:
M-DSPD Cover Up – The Curious Case Of Trayvon Martin’s Backpack With Stolen Jewelry and Burglary Tool… | The Last Refuge

So it took over one year for the information to be given to the Miami Police Dept.
 
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by sundance
May 1, 2013

"On October 21st 2011 a burglary took place a few blocks from Krop Senior High School where Trayvon Martin attended. The stolen property outlined in the Miami-Dade Police Report (PD111021-422483) matches the descriptive presented by SRO Dunn in his School Police report 2011-11477.

However, there was ONE big issue. SRO Dunn never filed a criminal report, nor opened a criminal investigation, surrounding the stolen jewelry. Instead, and as a result of pressure from M-DSPD Chief Hurley to avoid criminal reports for black male students, Dunn wrote up the jewelry as “found items”, and transferred them, along with the burglary tool, to the Miami-Dade Police property room where they sat on a shelf unassigned to anyone for investigation."
One of the examples of this in action was the jewelry incident and Trayvon Martin – as accidentally outlined in the Herald report. But the Herald never knew their reporting had launched an internal affairs investigation which led to the collapse of the scheme.

Meanwhile the stolen jewelry from the burglary (PD111021-422483) was sitting on a shelf in the Property Room listed as (2011-11477 “found items) gathering dust.

Until we started digging, and the FOIA requests revealed not only the scheme, but the fact a victim was never made whole with the return of their items.

That is, until now.

Yesterday we contacted Detective Manresa, assigned to the burglary case, of the Miami-Dade Police Department to notify him some of his victims’ stolen items were actually in the Miami-Dade property room:

Subject: Attn: Detective Omar Manresa [RE: PD111021-422483 Burglary at XXXX XX XXXXX]

Dear Detective Manresa,

Per phone conversation of 4/30/13 @ 10:20am regarding burglary incident #PD111021-422483

During the course of research surrounding an internal affairs M-DSPD investigation in March/April of 2012 it coincidentally came to our attention that School Resource Officer Darryl Dunn (Dr. Krop Senior High School) filled out a report of items from a student’s backpack without criminal attachment.

The internal documentation used by SRO Dunn only listed the contents of the backpack as “found items” and a burglary tool. He was trying to avoid subjecting the student [Trayvon Martin] to a criminal investigation, therefore no criminal report, nor investigation was initiated.

This action by SRO Dunn was taken at the direction and request of former M-DSPD Police Chief Hurley who had advised his officers to avoid writing criminal reports on student offenders; Apparently in an attempt to artificially improve the recorded criminal student statistics.

The internal report #2011-11477 never attached the stolen property to the student who was carrying it when searched. The property was taken to the custody of Carmen Gonzalez, Property Specialist, where it was held, and still should be located.

The details surrounding this event are outlined in the following sworn affidavits completed by members of the Miami-Dade School Police Department. (they are extensive)


See:
M-DSPD Cover Up – The Curious Case Of Trayvon Martin’s Backpack With Stolen Jewelry and Burglary Tool… | The Last Refuge

This is a blog.

Do you have the list of stolen items they mention? With proper progeny?

Until you do you got Santa Claus.
 
I don't know any teenagers who would be the "type" to walk nearly a mile in the rain just to buy their father's girlfriend's son a bag of skittles. the vast majority of 17 y/o kids would be like "**** that ****, you want some skittles? you walk your ass to the store in the rain to get 'em"

I actually find the idea he was trying to score some weed perfectly plausible.
 
I actually find the idea he was trying to score some weed perfectly plausible.

could be. I just find the idea that he was walking a mile in the rain just to get Chad Green some skittles to be very inplausible.
 
Or casing the apartments/homes for a break-in burglary.

Or communicating with his alien co-conspirators from Omicron-X.

I saw on some blog you can make Ricin from watermelon drink, skittles, and Ricin.

Call homeland security! M was a terrorist.

Or did his alien buddies just post that to throw the feds off their trail?
 
By Lloyd Marcus
July 25, 2013

In the midst of all the racial hullabaloo stirred up by so-called advocates for black empowerment after the Zimmerman trail, guess who is really being harmed? Answer: black America.

All of you black pastors, black politicians, and black celebs who have joined Sharpton and the MSM's lynch mob to "get Zimmerman" should be ashamed of yourselves. You are doing a huge disservice to the very people you claim to champion by chasing a straw man while ignoring the real issues that are devastating black America.

Everyone knows that the black community is a mess. White folks ain't killin' us. We are killing each other (http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/337929/war-against-black-men-lee-habeeb). Over 70 and increasing percent of black kids grow up in fatherless homes(Children in single-parent families by race | KIDS COUNT Data Center). Researchers warn that we blacks are aborting ourselves(www.learninc.org - ALARMING TREND: DECLINING NUMBER OF BLACK BIRTHS) into extinction. Black school dropout rates are at epidemic levels. Fatherless households and school dropouts fuel through the roof high black unemployment, gangs, and incarcerations.


Read more:
Articles: Black America's True Nemesis: Liberals, Not Zimmerman

Most all racist Progressives will dispute thie about article written by Marcus Lloyd.

Jackie Robinson pushed for Republicans and left the NAACP because he thought the NAACP was a militant body and that Republicans were better because they taught self-betterment.
 
Jackie Robinson pushed for Republicans and left the NAACP because he thought the NAACP was a militant body and that Republicans were better because they taught self-betterment.

Nice history you got there. Shame it's a stinking corpse

Robinson was eventually elected to the board of directors for the NAACP. He continued touring to drum up support and membership, often having to conceal his activities in the South so that individuals whom he approached would not suffer reprisals for associating with the NAACP. When Jackie had first joined, his goal was to increase membership, but he was thwarted by the many anti-civil rights measures being taken in the South which intimidated people and prevented them from joining.

Robinson grew dismayed with the NAACP as he saw it lose momentum due to its conservative bent. He criticized those who would not press more urgently for the advancement of black equality. He said, "I believe they have not done enough to gain the confidence of the little man in the street. The average person is waiting to see the leaders take an aggressive stand." However, Jackie continued to serve the NAACP, despite occasional differences with group leadership.

Jackie Robinson defends NAACP role

An independent-minded, life-long Republican, Robinson explained his political views in a chapter, titled “On Being Black Among the Republicans,” in his autobiography, I Never Had It Made.

In short, Robinson supported those Republicans, such as Nelson Rockefeller and Jacob Javits, who championed civil rights, and opposed those in the GOP who ignored black concerns. Thus, in 1960 Robinson campaigned for Richard Nixon in his losing race against John F. Kennedy, citing Nixon’s support for the 1957 Civil Rights Act, which Kennedy and many other Democrats opposed. And in 1964, Robinson served as deputy national director of the Rockefeller for President campaign, as he had earlier served in Rockefeller’s gubernatorial races. When Barry Goldwater won the nomination—and ignored Robinson—he became a political independent.

This should have served as an early lesson for the GOP. When a staunch Republican like Jackie Robinson loses faith, it should have raised a red flag about their relationship with the black community.
Today’s GOP, which continues to be perceived as an enemy of civil rights, would do well to recall the Robinson story.
 
Or casing the apartments/homes for a break-in burglary.

Yeah who knows, but it's certainly plausible given his documented history of burgling homes.
 
Jackie Robinson pushed for Republicans and left the NAACP because he thought the NAACP was a militant body and that Republicans were better because they taught self-betterment.

Interesting. I know the NAACP is an out of date dinosaur organization that has looooooooong passed the time it served a useful purpose. At least they should be honest and name it accurately. NAALDCP. LD stands for liberal democrat.
 
Really? Where can one find Trayvon's "documented history of burgling homes"?

For a liberal apologist like you ? Nowhere.
I mean they don't have an actual video of him, notarized and authenticated by Al Sharpton, so I guess it never happened.
 
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