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Day 14, Closing Arguments - Defense (Friday 7/12) [W:252]

Re: Day 14, Closing Arguments - Defense (Friday 7/12)

I cannot find the original article and after searching again, it appears as if I'm wrong. He was expelled three times, graffiti, truancy and drugs.

He texted about the fight and claimed the guy would have to face TM again. He also had a twitter account with the handle "No_Limit_N++++" on which a cousin tweeted "Yu ain't tell me yu swung on a bus driver"

Trayvon Martin case: He was suspended three times and caught with 'burglary tool' | Mail Online

Trayvon Martin's legal troubles reportedly covered up by police | Washington Times Communities

Yeah, I went down the text message rabbit hole yesterday.

Media hacked that up good.

Just listened to the defenses IT guy richard connor's testimony and that text string isn't mentioned, so I suspect it isn't corroborated by his school records. Petty vandalism and truancy doesn't sound very sexy. He also apparently told the same person he was at work and getting off early to see her in a later exchange.

The actual texts are interesting, if difficult to parse.

They can be found here:

Trayvon Text Messages – George Zimmerman Defense Discovery 3rd Supplemental | The Last Refuge

The reference to being suspended for fighting is in number two.

Another interesting thing is it appears the whole gun thing was about getting a gun for a friend whose fathers gf was coming around and they were scared because she's crazy with her guns. He suggested it for protection because "bullets don't have eyes". And that said person got a .38 for a hundred dollars on their own.

Its really hard to figure out who said what and why, due to the redactions. Often more than one conversation is going on at the same time, for example.

Some comments attributed to M in media articles are also clearly INCOMING texts. Or make incorrect inferences when examined in context. Clowning each other about how NOT hard the other is, etc.

Check the texts out for yourself, its pretty interesting.

At this point I actually think the pross should have allowed them. They don't support the aggressive image the defense made them out to be. There were literally thousands of texts revealed, and only a handful about fighting. And the gun ones seem clearly to be about a single attempt to get a gun for a friend for self defense from more than one source. Not a fixation on them or trying to acquire one for himself or for someone to use in a crime. Poor judgement as to how to deal with the crazy armed lady I'll grant. But not particularly damning to M or his character. Actually looks like he's trying to keep the person (rachel?) safe.

Anyway, not guilty. And as I've said, I'm cool with that since the lesser charges all have sentences WAY past anything I felt he deserved. I've been saying that "Dammit Zimmerman, you ****ed that one up!) would have been fine with me for a LONG time. Years and years in prison was always too much, IMO.
 
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