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Day 4 testimony [W:162]

tashatexas77048 said:
Newsflash: That wont change.
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Caine said:
**** yo, We always call white people crackers in my community..... its normal and not racist at all.....
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I have never called a white person a cracker, in fact I'm surprised that someone Martin's age would use the term but I have no problem refusing to damn a dead kid for his characterization of his eventual killer.
 
Jerry said:
I can see why there's confusion.....the list being labeled "following" would to me mean that is a list of the people that account is following. But if that's so, then why are there button next to each name on that list labeled "follow"? If the people on that list are already being followed, wouldn't those buttons say "un-follow"? And if non of the names on that list are being followed, why is the column labeled "following"? Seems like a website page design flaw to me. I can't tell which it's supposed to be, I have to rely on what the lawyers proved or didn't prove, and the plaintiff did not prove she was following anyone.

If it were me, I would not have deleted my twitter right after taking the stand, especially while subject to recall.
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If she was in her account looking at her list of who she was following, it would say "following" on all of them. You aren't her. You aren't in her account. You are in your account. Therefore, the "follow" button is for YOU, not her. It's for YOU to choose if you want to follow that person.
 
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SheWolf said:
It hasn't proven anything. All we have seen is a bunch of speculation.
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Without the witness that was closest to the shooting, it's already established that Zimmerman was on the bottom, that he got the crap beat out of him, and that what Zimmerman said about the fight itself seems to be true. Every single witness the state has presented to try and show it didn't happen the way he claims, has been discredited or turned around by the defense. When John takes the stand for the defense, there will be no doubt what so ever that it was Zimmerman on the bottom, and even though nobody can say with certainty who was screaming for help, Martin's father said it wasn't trayvon to police in front of a witness, and the common sense conclusion has to favor Zimmerman based on the beating he suffered.
 
Grim17 said:
Without the witness that was closest to the shooting, it's already established that Zimmerman was on the bottom, that he got the crap beat out of him, and that what Zimmerman said about the fight itself seems to be true. Every single witness the state has presented to try and show it didn't happen the way he claims, has been discredited or turned around by the defense. When John takes the stand for the defense, there will be no doubt what so ever that it was Zimmerman on the bottom, and even though nobody can say with certainty who was screaming for help, Martin's father said it wasn't trayvon to police in front of a witness, and the common sense conclusion has to favor Zimmerman based on the beating he suffered.
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There is supposed to be some witness who will testify that his wife was watching the television while he was on the computer. He had no idea what his wife was watching, but he heard some screams coming from the TV. He indicated that he told his wife that it sounded like George screaming then asked what she was watching, when she responded it was the news. I can't recall who this supposed witness was, and we'll have to see what the cross is, but that sounds pretty powerful.
 
buck said:
There is supposed to be some witness who will testify that his wife was watching the television while he was on the computer. He had no idea what his wife was watching, but he heard some screams coming from the TV. He indicated that he told his wife that it sounded like George screaming then asked what she was watching, when she responded it was the news. I can't recall who this supposed witness was, and we'll have to see what the cross is, but that sounds pretty powerful.
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I got that second paragraph wrong buck, so I deleted it.

As for what you said, I'm not sure
 
Grim17 said:
I got that second paragraph wrong buck, so I deleted it.

As for what you said, I'm not sure
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I believe I heard that on HLNTV, but I am not positive. I would assume that person will be called by the defense. I edited my reply to take into account your change.
 
buck said:
I believe I heard that on HLNTV, but I am not positive. I would assume that person will be called by the defense. I edited my reply to take into account your change.
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If that's true, the state's case is absolute toast.
 
tashatexas77048 said:
I have never called a white person a cracker, in fact I'm surprised that someone Martin's age would use the term but I have no problem refusing to damn a dead kid for his characterization of his eventual killer.
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Im damning "Dee Dee"'s DEFENSE of using the term.... on the witness stand even.....
 
Josie said:
If she was in her account looking at her list of who she was following, it would say "following" on all of them. You aren't her. You aren't in her account. You are in your account. Therefore, the "follow" button is for YOU, not her. It's for YOU to choose if you want to follow that person.
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I'm not in my account. I don't have an account. I'm looking an inactive pic someone else posted. Thanks for the explanation though.
 
The most damaging testimony from Jenna Lauer.

She couldn't identify Zimmerman( who she had known ) from the picture the cops showed her, taken right after the incident. Because of the beating he took.

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Obvioulsy consistent the defense's theory of self-defense.
 
KLATTU said:
The most damaging testimony from Jenna Lauer.

She couldn't identify Zimmerman( who she had known ) from the picture the cops showed her, taken right after the incident. Because of the beating he took.

Obvioulsy consistent the defense's theory of self-defense.
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And obviously not photo shopped.. unless the cop was photo shopping the picture instantly on his phone with all the witnesses standing around. I wonder if Sharon realizes yet how many of her opinions have already been shot down by only the 5th day of testimony.
 
Grim17 said:
At this point, can you really believe that there
is one person on that jury that thinks
Z is guilty and has no resonable doubt?
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They let OJ go after they found a bloody glove on his property behind Cato's house.

After the White Bronco chase with OJ holding a pistol and pictures of Nicole and his Kids telling the police " I deserve to be hurt ".

Anything is possible.
 
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buck said:
There is supposed to be some witness who will testify that his wife was watching the television while he was on the computer. He had no idea what his wife was watching, but he heard some screams coming from the TV. He indicated that he told his wife that it sounded like George screaming then asked what she was watching, when she responded it was the news. I can't recall who this supposed witness was, and we'll have to see what the cross is, but that sounds pretty powerful.
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i'm an old fart, and my memory is weak,so recognize that when reading the following

my recollection is that west was the one who presented this during opening arguments
someone who knew george overheard the screams on the tv news his wife was watching
he purportedly immediately recognized those screams to be those of zimmerman

possibly, we may hear more about this when the defense calls its witnesses
 
justabubba said:
i'm an old fart, and my memory is weak,so recognize that when reading the following

my recollection is that west was the one who presented this during opening arguments
someone who knew george overheard the screams on the tv news his wife was watching
he purportedly immediately recognized those screams to be those of zimmerman

possibly, we may hear more about this when the defense calls its witnesses
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Yes, you are correct. Thank you.
 
tashatexas77048 said:
I have never called a white person a cracker, in fact I'm surprised that someone Martin's age would use the term but I have no problem refusing to damn a dead kid for his characterization of his eventual killer.
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No one is asking you to damn the kid. We're asking you to damn the use of racial slurs. And you refuse.

Plenty of white kids have used the word 'nigger' to characterize their eventual killers, you don't see anyone (herein) using that to justify racial bigotry.

You're using a dead kid for your own purpose, to condone racial slurs and thus promote hatred. That's sad.
 
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ecofarm said:
No one is asking you to damn the kid. We're asking you to damn the use of racial slurs. And you refuse.

Plenty of white kids have used the word 'nigger' to characterize their eventual killers, you don't see anyone (herein) using that to justify racial bigotry.

You're using a dead kid for your own purpose, to condone racial slurs and thus promote hatred. That's sad.
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Further, I would say that tashatexas77048's position is detrimental to Trayvon's memory. I expect, given an opportunity to grow up and learn more about the world, Trayvon would disavow such language and value the importance of treating people as individuals. I believe that, with a bit more life, young Mr. Martin would have disagreed with his statement. But some wallow in it, even when they've the opportunity to grow. I, for one, do not appreciate Martin being painted as an unrepentant and justified bigot. That's crapping on his memory. I'd be ashamed to mischaracterize a dead boy in such a manner just to spew my own hatred.


Ok, I mighta poured that on a bit thick, but I think people can get the point.
 
My question, will the defense call Zimmerman as a witness and then try to impeach him? His stories conflict more than any witness called thus far lol.
 
SheWolf said:
My question, will the defense call Zimmerman as a witness and then try to impeach him? His stories conflict more than any witness called thus far lol.
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Your question......


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... Is stupid.
 
ecofarm said:
No one is asking you to damn the kid. We're asking you to damn the use of racial slurs. And you refuse.

Plenty of white kids have used the word 'nigger' to characterize their eventual killers, you don't see anyone (herein) using that to justify racial bigotry.

You're using a dead kid for your own purpose, to condone racial slurs and thus promote hatred. That's sad.
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You are claiming that every white kid who uses the N word is killed?

Do YOU use the epithet?

My family hasn't used it in three generations. Its considered uncouth.
 
sharon said:
You are claiming that every white kid who uses the N word is killed?
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Yes, sharon, that's what I'm claiming - that every white kid who uses the word 'nigger' is killed.

Do YOU use the epithet?
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Of course not, sharon.
 
here is what was posted:
Plenty of white kids have used the word 'nigger' to characterize their eventual killers
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and here is how you interpreted it:
sharon said:
You are claiming that every white kid who uses the N word is killed?

Do YOU use the epithet?

My family hasn't used it in three generations. Its considered uncouth.
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do you yet understand that your comprehension of what was posted is VERY far from what was actually written?
 
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