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George Zimmerman verdict

George Zimmerman verdict prediction

  • guilty

    Votes: 17 40.5%

  • innocent

    Votes: 11 26.2%

  • hung jury or mistrial

    Votes: 14 33.3%
  • Total voters
    42
  • Poll closed .
Caine said:
Which didn't answer my question.........

I didn't ask if it was possible to avoid the situation..... It is obvious that he should have waited for the police. Yet failing to wait for the police does not make one a murderer.

That is like telling a guy who kills another guy in a bar fight in self defense that he is responsible for being at the bar.... he didn't have to be at that bar!!!!!
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Two men in a bar is not even remotely comparable to a man with a gun knowingly following an innocent teenager.
 
dolphinocean said:
Being at the bar is completely different to being armed and chasing and following someone merely walking on the street.
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TM wasn't merly walking down the street. There's a history in that area and TM was casing homes for another burglery with drugs in his systom.

Not that overweight drop-out wana-be cop Zimmerman is a model citizen, but he's no murderer and TM was up to no good.
 
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Tettsuo said:
Two men in a bar is not even remotely comparable to a man with a gun knowingly following an innocent teenager.
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There were no innocent teens involved in the Z/M shooting.
 
Jerry said:
TM wasn't merly walking down the street. There's a history in that area and TM was casing homes for another burglery with drugs in his systom.

Not that overweight drop-out wana-be cop Zimmerman is a model citizen, but he's no murderer and TM was up to no good.
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Really? How do you get that?
 
Jerry said:
There were no innocent teens involved in the Z/M shooting.
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Yeah, there was. Martin committed no crime for Zimmerman to be compelled to follow him on. With a load gun, Zimmerman tracked down an innocent teenager.
 
Jerry said:
TM wasn't merly walking down the street. There's a history in that area and TM was casing homes for another burglery with drugs in his systom.

Not that overweight drop-out wana-be cop Zimmerman is a model citizen, but he's no murderer and TM was up to no good.
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You're really making up things aren't you?
 
Tettsuo said:
Can you show us where you read that Martin was casing houses and had drugs in his system? Links are preferred.
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Well he had THC in his system. But I Don't evenknow how Z couldmake the casing claim since he only observed him for about 4 seconds or so before calling NEN.
 
BTW - Z cops to a manslaughter plea 3-4 weeks into the trial, sentenced to 10-15, out in 5 on good behavior.
 
spanky said:
Really? How do you get that?
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for starters... the walk from the 7-11 back to Brandy Green's was 0.8 miles. Being an athletic teenager, it should have taken Trayvon no more than 12 minutes to make that walk (I'm 50 with busted knees and I can make that walk in under 10). Trayvon left the 7-11 at 6:24. Zimmerman didn't report seeing him until 7:09. That's 45 minutes after Trayvon left the store. even considering a "liesurely" pace, trayvon should have been "home" within 15 minutes of leaving the 7-11. IF his intent had been merely to make a trip to the store to get skittles for Chad Green.

So WTF was Trayvon doing for the extra 30+ minutes? wandering around aimlessly?
 
Jerry said:
TM wasn't merly walking down the street. There's a history in that area and TM was casing homes for another burglery with drugs in his systom.

Not that overweight drop-out wana-be cop Zimmerman is a model citizen, but he's no murderer and TM was up to no good.
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There is absolutely no proof of your accusation of Trayvon casing homes and up to no good except from the killer's very mouth. If we go by your standard to convict Trayvon then zimmerman should be convicted and found guilty a hundred times over.
 
OscarB63 said:
for starters... the walk from the 7-11 back to Brandy Green's was 0.8 miles. Being an athletic teenager, it should have taken Trayvon no more than 12 minutes to make that walk (I'm 50 with busted knees and I can make that walk in under 10). Trayvon left the 7-11 at 6:24. Zimmerman didn't report seeing him until 7:09. That's 45 minutes after Trayvon left the store. even considering a "liesurely" pace, trayvon should have been "home" within 15 minutes of leaving the 7-11. IF his intent had been merely to make a trip to the store to get skittles for Chad Green.

So WTF was Trayvon doing for the extra 30+ minutes? wandering around aimlessly?
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Taking cover, waiting for the rain to clear up.
 
Tettsuo said:
Yeah, there was. Martin committed no crime for Zimmerman to be compelled to follow him on. With a load gun, Zimmerman tracked down an innocent teenager.
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Just as an off-topic question, but if somone is going to carry a gun at all, why would it not be loaded?

You're placing emphasis on the fact that a gun was loaded and I'm wondering why anyone would think a gun being loaded is unusual. Don't you keep gas in your car and a charge on your phone? Same exact thing.
 
OscarB63 said:
for starters... the walk from the 7-11 back to Brandy Green's was 0.8 miles. Being an athletic teenager, it should have taken Trayvon no more than 12 minutes to make that walk (I'm 50 with busted knees and I can make that walk in under 10). Trayvon left the 7-11 at 6:24. Zimmerman didn't report seeing him until 7:09. That's 45 minutes after Trayvon left the store. even considering a "liesurely" pace, trayvon should have been "home" within 15 minutes of leaving the 7-11. IF his intent had been merely to make a trip to the store to get skittles for Chad Green.

So WTF was Trayvon doing for the extra 30+ minutes? wandering around aimlessly?
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Dawdling teenage boys talking to teenage girls on the phone is something that rarely happens.


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OscarB63 said:
for starters... the walk from the 7-11 back to Brandy Green's was 0.8 miles. Being an athletic teenager, it should have taken Trayvon no more than 12 minutes to make that walk (I'm 50 with busted knees and I can make that walk in under 10). Trayvon left the 7-11 at 6:24. Zimmerman didn't report seeing him until 7:09. That's 45 minutes after Trayvon left the store. even considering a "liesurely" pace, trayvon should have been "home" within 15 minutes of leaving the 7-11. IF his intent had been merely to make a trip to the store to get skittles for Chad Green.

So WTF was Trayvon doing for the extra 30+ minutes? wandering around aimlessly?
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OMG!!!!!!A dawdling teenager, call 911!!!!!!!

Seriously, a teenager can only take exactly the time he needs based on build and athletic prowess to get home or else they are casing houses????
 
dolphinocean said:
There is absolutely no proof of your accusation of Trayvon casing homes and up to no good except from the killer's very mouth.
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Yeah because there's no way to prove the history of burgleries or the weather or the drugs in TM's systom or etc etc without Z's word.

TM was a gangbanger wanabe punk and the world is a better place with him in the ground. I only regret that a more upstanding citizen wasn't the one to take him out so that we could sidestep a lot of the showboating but TM's death remains a public service non the less.
 
Tettsuo said:
Can you show us where you read that Martin was casing houses and had drugs in his system? Links are preferred.
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Yeah like this whole ****ing subforum. If you want links don't be lazy and do a google serch. That's all I would for you anyway.
 
OscarB63 said:
for starters... the walk from the 7-11 back to Brandy Green's was 0.8 miles. Being an athletic teenager, it should have taken Trayvon no more than 12 minutes to make that walk (I'm 50 with busted knees and I can make that walk in under 10). Trayvon left the 7-11 at 6:24. Zimmerman didn't report seeing him until 7:09. That's 45 minutes after Trayvon left the store. even considering a "liesurely" pace, trayvon should have been "home" within 15 minutes of leaving the 7-11. IF his intent had been merely to make a trip to the store to get skittles for Chad Green.

So WTF was Trayvon doing for the extra 30+ minutes? wandering around aimlessly?
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Casing homes for the next of an ongoing series of burgleries.
 
MaggieD said:
I voted "guilty." I don't think they'll convict him of 2nd Degree Murder. If that's the way it's tried, and that's all they can find him guilty of? I think he'll be found Not Guilty. But if they can find him guilty of something lesser, then I think they probably will.
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FL law regarding self defense of an aggressor means he probably walks. The guy with the gun wins the fights he starts when there are no witnesses.

I'm just not sure all the jurors will believe Zs testimony, so we could see a hung jury/mistrial.
 
Jerry said:
Yeah because there's no way to prove the history of burgleries or the weather or the drugs in TM's systom or etc etc without Z's word.

TM was a gangbanger wanabe punk and the world is a better place with him in the ground. I only regret that a more upstanding citizen wasn't the one to take him out so that we could sidestep a lot of the showboating but TM's death remains a public service non the less.
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Like I said, base on your level of conviction of Tryvon without a trial then we might as well hang zimmerman for his past misdeed. Even if you're an excon with a long list of criminal history and drug use, nobody can just chase you and shoot you to death for merely walking down the street unarmed and minding your own business and then claim sel-defence based on some baseless past history unrelated to the shooting event.
 
Jerry said:
Casing homes for the next of an ongoing series of burgleries.
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Making wild accusation against a victim of crime without evidence. That's about the totality of the MO of most zimmerman supporters to defend zimmerman.
 
Jerry said:
M was a gangbanger wanabe punk and the world is a better place with him in the ground. I only regret that a more upstanding citizen wasn't the one to take him out so that we could sidestep a lot of the showboating but TM's death remains a public service non the less.
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Wow. There is no evidence he was a gangbanger and no evidence he was a wannabe punk. The terms contradict each other anyhow. How you would come to that conclusion is a complete mystery. Public service. Jesus.
 
Guilty of criminally negligent homicide, as far as I can see. If the only option the jury is given is Murder 2 or acquittal, then justice will not be served whatever the outcome.
 
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