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Is Zimmerman Getting a Fair Trial?

Did you see post #22, I found the video of tonight.

George Zimmerman has sued NBCUniversal for defamation. The company has strongly denied his allegations.

They been saying/writing this statement at the end of their news reports since George Zimmerman sued them. It is nothing new.
 
They been saying/writing this statement at the end of their news reports since George Zimmerman sued them. It is nothing new.

I watch it most every night???
 
Every headline seems to read that his defense can't do this, can't raise that, and the judge really seems to be on a vendetta since the fund raising fiasco and his court presentation in the bail hearing. I have a hard time understanding why his defense can't use Martin's character issues since they would support him being an aggressive thug capable of exactly what Zimmerman claims he did. It just seems like the fix is in against Zimmerman and I see people who know very little about the case just happy as all get out that is the case?

Do you think his trial is going to be fair?
Trayvon's past means nothing to what zimmerman did to Trayvon on the night of Feb 26, 2012 except to mislead the jurors.


The only thing significant is that very night when Trayvon was just minding his own business and was then wrongly profiled by the overzealous zimmerman who chased and then subsequently gunned Trayvon down in the dark backyard and then claimed self-defence.


The part where zimmerman called the SPD dispatcher to report on Trayvon, up to his ending the call, were all recorded in zimmerman's NEN call. That call was more than four minutes long. Throughout the whole 4 minute call, there was no mention or indication whatsoever of Trayvon being verbally abusive or physically acting in violence.


Even though zimmerman claimed after the fact in his video reenactment of Trayvon coming back from the dark at the cut-through T-junction to circle his truck, which was not even mentioned in his NEN call, that behavior, if believable, is very odd but not aggressive.


BTW, this is yet another one of zimmerman's many contradictory stories where he claimed Trayvon ran to the T-junction and disappeared into the darkness to which he said he lost him. In the NEN call that would be the part where zimmerman was heard getting out of his truck in a hurry to chase after Trayvon and then later he said, "He ran".


So, how did zimmerman manage to be sitting in his truck with Trayvon coming back to circle his truck when we were told he was walking to Retreat View Circle to get an address after the dispatcher told him off and prior to returning to his truck? Weren't we told that after he got an address and was on the way back to his truck that he was punched by Trayvon at the T? So, where and how did the supposedly Trayvon circling his truck fit in?


Now, back to what zimmerman said of Trayvon in his NEN call. By Zimmerman's own words to the dispatcher in his NEN call, he was eyeing Trayvon who was walking and seeking shelter from the rain. Then Trayvon walked away from him with Zimmerman following him behind with his truck before Trayvon took off running away from this "creepy guy". Then this "creepy guy" quickly got out of his vehicle to give chase as we heard in his NEN call.


No self-respecting "thug" in the world, who did nothing wrong that night, would let a stranger stare at him for an extended period of time and then followed behind from a vehicle only to take off running instead of confronting the "creepy guy" in the truck right then and right there on the spot. If Trayvon was a really "thug", Zimmerman would be heard screaming on the phone reporting to the dispatcher of the "thug" erupting with aggression. If being a thug, Trayvon would be pounding on the window of zimmerman's truck and/or throwing the big can of ice tea at him instead of "skipping" away in the dark.


In the thug world that would be a cowardly and disgraceful thing for a "thug" to do where perchance residence looking out from their windows or pedestrians out walking that night might caught a glimpse of a "thug" doing a tuck tail and run.


Are we then to believe zimmerman's words at face value that in the one minute or so of unrecorded encounter of him and Trayvon in the dark where noboody was there to witness what actually happened that very moment that Trayvon suddenly turned into this blood-thirsty monster bending on savagely beating and murdering him into a bloody pulp in cold-blood?

Are we to ignore the more than 4 minutes NEN call recording of that very night that not only showed no aggression on Trayvon's part but did in fact showed that Trayvon was trying to avoid encounter with this "creepy guy" by getting away from the road where zimmerman was driving and running into the back dog-walk in fear of this unknown imminent threat he was facing?

If Trayvon was under the influence of marijuana or other concoction drugs that zimmerman supporters claimed caused him to display aggression, wouldn't the aggression be expressed at the very time when zimmerman was staring at him and following him by wheel and then by truck? How convenient for zimmerman and his supporters that Trayvon would choose to suppress and delay his aggression in the dark after tucking his tail to run?

Or are we expect to accept zimmerman's after the fact of the killing where he has the upmost incentive and motive to lie to save his skin given the myriad inconsistency, contradiction and lies in his various stories?

Bottom line is that zimmerman is on trial and Trayvon is dead by his hand.
 
What? What does Trayvonn Martin's marijuana use in his past have to do with anything during the incident? (i assume that is what your talking about)

It doesn't... George had no relationship with Trayvon prior to profiling him ...
 
Its the SPD and Porky's dads fault that this is even a story. A normal arrest after this killing would have prevented a media firestorm. Beyond that Porky is dumber than a camp fire to put himself into this position anyway. What he expected is that Trayvon would thug up and pull a knife on him or something but Trayvon whimped out as any non-gang banging child would do and he screamed. All of you defending someone involved in such a high level of straight up dumb jackassery really puzzle me.


Damn good post.

I think if anyone spent 30 minutes in a room with either Zimmerman or Martin (when he was alive) would find they are dealing with someone with the intellectual agility of a butter dish.
 
Trayvon's past means nothing to what zimmerman did to Trayvon on the night of Feb 26, 2012 except to mislead the jurors.


The only thing significant is that very night when Trayvon was just minding his own business and was then wrongly profiled by the overzealous zimmerman who chased and then subsequently gunned Trayvon down in the dark backyard and then claimed self-defence.


The part where zimmerman called the SPD dispatcher to report on Trayvon, up to his ending the call, were all recorded in zimmerman's NEN call. That call was more than four minutes long. Throughout the whole 4 minute call, there was no mention or indication whatsoever of Trayvon being verbally abusive or physically acting in violence.


Even though zimmerman claimed after the fact in his video reenactment of Trayvon coming back from the dark at the cut-through T-junction to circle his truck, which was not even mentioned in his NEN call, that behavior, if believable, is very odd but not aggressive.


BTW, this is yet another one of zimmerman's many contradictory stories where he claimed Trayvon ran to the T-junction and disappeared into the darkness to which he said he lost him. In the NEN call that would be the part where zimmerman was heard getting out of his truck in a hurry to chase after Trayvon and then later he said, "He ran".


So, how did zimmerman manage to be sitting in his truck with Trayvon coming back to circle his truck when we were told he was walking to Retreat View Circle to get an address after the dispatcher told him off and prior to returning to his truck? Weren't we told that after he got an address and was on the way back to his truck that he was punched by Trayvon at the T? So, where and how did the supposedly Trayvon circling his truck fit in?


Now, back to what zimmerman said of Trayvon in his NEN call. By Zimmerman's own words to the dispatcher in his NEN call, he was eyeing Trayvon who was walking and seeking shelter from the rain. Then Trayvon walked away from him with Zimmerman following him behind with his truck before Trayvon took off running away from this "creepy guy". Then this "creepy guy" quickly got out of his vehicle to give chase as we heard in his NEN call.


No self-respecting "thug" in the world, who did nothing wrong that night, would let a stranger stare at him for an extended period of time and then followed behind from a vehicle only to take off running instead of confronting the "creepy guy" in the truck right then and right there on the spot. If Trayvon was a really "thug", Zimmerman would be heard screaming on the phone reporting to the dispatcher of the "thug" erupting with aggression. If being a thug, Trayvon would be pounding on the window of zimmerman's truck and/or throwing the big can of ice tea at him instead of "skipping" away in the dark.


In the thug world that would be a cowardly and disgraceful thing for a "thug" to do where perchance residence looking out from their windows or pedestrians out walking that night might caught a glimpse of a "thug" doing a tuck tail and run.


Are we then to believe zimmerman's words at face value that in the one minute or so of unrecorded encounter of him and Trayvon in the dark where noboody was there to witness what actually happened that very moment that Trayvon suddenly turned into this blood-thirsty monster bending on savagely beating and murdering him into a bloody pulp in cold-blood?

Are we to ignore the more than 4 minutes NEN call recording of that very night that not only showed no aggression on Trayvon's part but did in fact showed that Trayvon was trying to avoid encounter with this "creepy guy" by getting away from the road where zimmerman was driving and running into the back dog-walk in fear of this unknown imminent threat he was facing?

If Trayvon was under the influence of marijuana or other concoction drugs that zimmerman supporters claimed caused him to display aggression, wouldn't the aggression be expressed at the very time when zimmerman was staring at him and following him by wheel and then by truck? How convenient for zimmerman and his supporters that Trayvon would choose to suppress and delay his aggression in the dark after tucking his tail to run?

Or are we expect to accept zimmerman's after the fact of the killing where he has the upmost incentive and motive to lie to save his skin given the myriad inconsistency, contradiction and lies in his various stories?

Bottom line is that zimmerman is on trial and Trayvon is dead by his hand.
Wrong!
 
Reread. It was clear as a bell.

I did. All you said was that the judge is showing her "bias" and i asked how and i thought you meant isnt allowing certain things to be used as evidence. How is the judge showing bias?
Also on the subject of obfuscating, both sides are clearly obfuscating. The defense is trying obfuscat the fact that Zimmerman was armed and stalking Martin in an SUV and the procescution is also obsfuscating.
 
I did. All you said was that the judge is showing her "bias" and i asked how and i thought you meant isnt allowing certain things to be used as evidence. How is the judge showing bias?
Unbelievable!
:doh

Not providing a continuation when clearly the Prosecutor has been obfuscating the evidence and therefore not allowing the Defense to prepare for it, is just one example of his not getting a fair trial.


both sides are clearly obfuscating. The defense is trying obfuscat the fact that Zimmerman was armed and stalking Martin in an SUV and the procescution is also obsfuscating.
No both sides are not.
The prosecution is.

And there was no stalking, not by generic definition, or legal definition.
Had there been, he would have been charged with your fantasy.
 
Unbelievable!
:doh

Not providing a continuation when clearly the Prosecutor has been obfuscating the evidence and therefore not allowing the Defense to prepare for it, is just one example of his not getting a fair trial.


No both sides are not.
The prosecution is.

And there was no stalking, not by generic definition, or legal definition.
Had there been, he would have been charged with your fantasy.

If George had been right or smart, Trayvon would not be dead and George would not be on trial.

Do you admire George?
 
Unbelievable!
:doh

Not providing a continuation when clearly the Prosecutor has been obfuscating the evidence and therefore not allowing the Defense to prepare for it, is just one example of his not getting a fair trial.


No both sides are not.
The prosecution is.

And there was no stalking, not by generic definition, or legal definition.
Had there been, he would have been charged with your fantasy.
:doh
For you not see that both sides are obfuscating is beyond me...
 
:doh
For you not see that both sides are obfuscating is beyond me...
Your stalking claim was absurd.
So what is it besides that that you think the Defense has obfuscated from the Prosecution?
iLOL I got to hear this.
 
If George had been right or smart, Trayvon would not be dead and George would not be on trial.
Wrong sharon. Had it not been for laying in wait and attacking, he would still be alive.
 
Wrong sharon. Had it not been for laying in wait and attacking, he would still be alive.

It didn't begin with Trayvon... it began with George acting out his Walter Mitty cop fantasy.

You want to say there was no situation until Trayvon "punched" George...

George is basically pathetic.
 
It didn't begin with Trayvon... it began with George acting out his Walter Mitty cop fantasy.

You want to say there was no situation until Trayvon "punched" George...

George is basically pathetic.
Your personal attacks on Zimmerman, while fascinating, as they say more about you than they do him, are meaningless.

Had not acted out violently that night he would still be alive.
 
Trayvon's past means nothing to what zimmerman did to Trayvon on the night of Feb 26, 2012 except to mislead the jurors.


The only thing significant is that very night when Trayvon was just minding his own business and was then wrongly profiled by the overzealous zimmerman who chased and then subsequently gunned Trayvon down in the dark backyard and then claimed self-defence.


The part where zimmerman called the SPD dispatcher to report on Trayvon, up to his ending the call, were all recorded in zimmerman's NEN call. That call was more than four minutes long. Throughout the whole 4 minute call, there was no mention or indication whatsoever of Trayvon being verbally abusive or physically acting in violence.


Even though zimmerman claimed after the fact in his video reenactment of Trayvon coming back from the dark at the cut-through T-junction to circle his truck, which was not even mentioned in his NEN call, that behavior, if believable, is very odd but not aggressive.


BTW, this is yet another one of zimmerman's many contradictory stories where he claimed Trayvon ran to the T-junction and disappeared into the darkness to which he said he lost him. In the NEN call that would be the part where zimmerman was heard getting out of his truck in a hurry to chase after Trayvon and then later he said, "He ran".


So, how did zimmerman manage to be sitting in his truck with Trayvon coming back to circle his truck when we were told he was walking to Retreat View Circle to get an address after the dispatcher told him off and prior to returning to his truck? Weren't we told that after he got an address and was on the way back to his truck that he was punched by Trayvon at the T? So, where and how did the supposedly Trayvon circling his truck fit in?


Now, back to what zimmerman said of Trayvon in his NEN call. By Zimmerman's own words to the dispatcher in his NEN call, he was eyeing Trayvon who was walking and seeking shelter from the rain. Then Trayvon walked away from him with Zimmerman following him behind with his truck before Trayvon took off running away from this "creepy guy". Then this "creepy guy" quickly got out of his vehicle to give chase as we heard in his NEN call.


No self-respecting "thug" in the world, who did nothing wrong that night, would let a stranger stare at him for an extended period of time and then followed behind from a vehicle only to take off running instead of confronting the "creepy guy" in the truck right then and right there on the spot. If Trayvon was a really "thug", Zimmerman would be heard screaming on the phone reporting to the dispatcher of the "thug" erupting with aggression. If being a thug, Trayvon would be pounding on the window of zimmerman's truck and/or throwing the big can of ice tea at him instead of "skipping" away in the dark.


In the thug world that would be a cowardly and disgraceful thing for a "thug" to do where perchance residence looking out from their windows or pedestrians out walking that night might caught a glimpse of a "thug" doing a tuck tail and run.


Are we then to believe zimmerman's words at face value that in the one minute or so of unrecorded encounter of him and Trayvon in the dark where noboody was there to witness what actually happened that very moment that Trayvon suddenly turned into this blood-thirsty monster bending on savagely beating and murdering him into a bloody pulp in cold-blood?

Are we to ignore the more than 4 minutes NEN call recording of that very night that not only showed no aggression on Trayvon's part but did in fact showed that Trayvon was trying to avoid encounter with this "creepy guy" by getting away from the road where zimmerman was driving and running into the back dog-walk in fear of this unknown imminent threat he was facing?

If Trayvon was under the influence of marijuana or other concoction drugs that zimmerman supporters claimed caused him to display aggression, wouldn't the aggression be expressed at the very time when zimmerman was staring at him and following him by wheel and then by truck? How convenient for zimmerman and his supporters that Trayvon would choose to suppress and delay his aggression in the dark after tucking his tail to run?

Or are we expect to accept zimmerman's after the fact of the killing where he has the upmost incentive and motive to lie to save his skin given the myriad inconsistency, contradiction and lies in his various stories?

Bottom line is that zimmerman is on trial and Trayvon is dead by his hand.

Totally distorted and disoriented

Re read, the evidence
 
Your personal attacks on Zimmerman, while fascinating, as they say more about you than they do him, are meaningless.

Had not acted out violently that night he would still be alive.

Why would a 28 year old man be taking meds for ADHD, IBS, depression, insomnia, pain? Why would a 28 year old be taking tranquilizers?

George had a lot of problems.. Look at him now.......
 
Why would a 28 year old man be taking meds for ADHD, IBS, depression, insomnia, pain? Why would a 28 year old be taking tranquilizers?

George had a lot of problems.. Look at him now.......
How sad.
Your personal attacks on Zimmerman, while fascinating, are meaningless.
 
Can't you face that George is a loser?

How sad.
More personal attacks on Zimmerman, while they are fascinating, are meaningless.
 
Zimmerman will never get a fair trial, the trial will always be in favor of the prosecution. Shows how corrupt the criminal justice system is.
 
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