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Today's, 06/07/13, Frye hearing

One thing is certain. Reich's methods meet the "not new or novel technology" test by a century:lamo
 
JackFrost said:
One thing is certain. Reich's methods meet the "not new or novel technology" test by a century:lamo
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Is that what you think? :doh
:lamo

His application, by a guy with hearing problems, seems to be both new and novel.
 
Donald West: “I’m not doing a very good job, I apologize”.

Yeah no ****:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
Judge Nelson will probably let them testify.
 
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Stardog said:
Judge Nelson will probably let them testify. Too bad the defense couldn't find one expert to say it was Z screaming.
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We know of an expert that just indicated it is more likely that it was Z, but there isn't enough to be certain.
 
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buck said:
We know of an expert that just indicated it is more likely that it was Z, but there isn't enough to be certain.
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More likely is better than less likely. But it will be up to the jury to decide.
 
Stardog said:
More likely is better than less likely. But it will be up to the jury to decide.
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And based on what I saw today, it sure doesn't look too good for the state's experts.

The FBI guy seemed very knowledgeable... and has the most likely answer - can't be certain/not enough data.

We'll have to see what happens tomorrow.
 
Same phone at my office. We use it all the time for conference calls, and it does not cut out like you say. Here is a pic of the phone:
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as said before.
if the voice experts testify I bet it will be a split jury at best. Just like this forum
The trump card is the FBI scientist. There is not enough data of good quality to analyse.
If I was on the jury. That pretty much takes the voice analysis out of play.
 
Why would Zimmerman ask for an extended curfew on Friday June 7th?

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NATIONAL DOUGHNUT DAY!!!

We know where he will be at tonight.

:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
JackFrost said:
Yours looks like the Avaya 1692 or 2033, which is clearly not the same one seen in the courtroom. Notice the different speaker grille, and the model of the "legs".

Avaya IP Conference Phones | Trcnetworks
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Here at 6:21+ is a nice closeup of the phone they used.
George Zimmerman Hearing 6/7/13 - Part 7 - YouTube

I actually believe it is the same phone we use. However, had you responded earlier, I could have taken a nice pic of the keypad to show you.. But, regardless and as it is more important that we try to determine if what you claimed was accurate... Let's see which phone the court used and wether two can speak simultaneously, which you claimed they could not:

Vista Phones Polycom AVAYA SoundStation EX Conference Phone: #3 - GENTLE USE Apple iPhones, iPads, iPods, MacBooks, & Polycom/Panasonic Business Phones

This is the phone they used. Exact same, keypad and all.

The description:
Full duplex operation (simultaneous two-way conversation) ideal for small to medium sized conference rooms

So, you are wrong, even if, as you claim, we don't use the same phone. The state's expert was just a beffudled old fool, and blaming the phone will not work as it is full duplex.
 
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buck said:
Here at 6:21+ is a nice closeup of the phone they used.
George Zimmerman Hearing 6/7/13 - Part 7 - YouTube

I actually believe it is the same phone we use. However, had you responded earlier, I could have taken a nice pic of the keypad to show you.. But, regardless and as it is more important that we try to determine if what you claimed was accurate... Let's see which phone the court used and wether two can speak simultaneously, which you claimed they could not:

Vista Phones Polycom AVAYA SoundStation EX Conference Phone: #3 - GENTLE USE Apple iPhones, iPads, iPods, MacBooks, & Polycom/Panasonic Business Phones

This is the phone they used. Exact same, keypad and all.

The description:
Full duplex operation (simultaneous two-way conversation) ideal for small to medium sized conference rooms

So, you are wrong, even if, as you claim, we don't use the same phone. The state's expert was just a beffudled old fool, and blaming the phone will not work as it is full duplex.
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Amazon Review of the Phone

1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Less than expected
By Matt
Phone would be awesome if it had better sound quality. It was easy to set up and use and was very practical. However this item has horrible sound quality from the incoming callers and average outgoing sound from the conference side. That's all there really is to say, mostly becasue that's the most import or only quality this item has.
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Looks like the phone is not perfect:lamo
 
JackFrost said:
Looks like the phone is not perfect:lamo
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That is hilarious. So, out of the 5 reviews, you choose to pick the only one that was not 5 stars:

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Polycom SoundStation EX with Mics

Typical of those on the Trayvon side of the argument. I notice you even chose not to provide a link. I just can't figure out why that would be.

Then, if you do a google search, there is a blog that has since been removed, where this particular phone received 88 reviews with a perfect 10/10 rating.

indahfgf.blogspot.com/2013/.../1-polycom-soundstation-ex-with-mics.ht...‎
Rating: 10/10 - 88 reviews
May 2, 2013 – Cheap Polycom SoundStation EX with Mics For Sale. Polycoms patented acoustic clarity technology full duplex for simultaneous natural ...
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You just can't get much more dishonest then what you attempted.

Just admit it, the state's witness that hears things no one else does, is hard of hearing, and a befuddled (and befuddling) gentleman.
 
buck said:
That is hilarious. So, out of the 5 reviews, you choose to pick the only one that was not 5 stars:

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Polycom SoundStation EX with Mics

Typical of those on the Trayvon side of the argument. I notice you even chose not to provide a link. I just can't figure out why that would be.

Then, if you do a google search, there is a blog that has since been removed, where this particular phone received 88 reviews with a perfect 10/10 rating.

You just can't get much more dishonest then what you attempted.

Just admit it, the state's witness that hears things no one else does, is hard of hearing, and a befuddled (and befuddling) gentleman.
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1. I chose that one because he experienced the same problem I found with the phone. Just because there is only one, does not mean the phone is perfect.
2. Am I required by forum rules or is there a law stating I have to provide a link? Everyone on here has a computer capable of looking for themselves. I
did not feel like highlighting>right click>copy>paste. So what? I gave enough information.
3. The blog was removed for a reason.
4. I am the most honest person here. Nothing I have stated is dishonest.
 
JackFrost said:
1. I chose that one because he experienced the same problem I found with the phone. Just because there is only one, does not mean the phone is perfect.
2. Am I required by forum rules or is there a law stating I have to provide a link? Everyone on here has a computer capable of looking for themselves. I
did not feel like highlighting>right click>copy>paste. So what? I gave enough information.
3. The blog was removed for a reason.
4. I am the most honest person here. Nothing I have stated is dishonest.
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In your own fantasy world it's important to know how spectacular you are
 
JackFrost said:
1. I chose that one because he experienced the same problem I found with the phone. Just because there is only one, does not mean the phone is perfect.
2. Am I required by forum rules or is there a law stating I have to provide a link? Everyone on here has a computer capable of looking for themselves. I did not feel like highlighting>right click>copy>paste. So what? I gave enough information.
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Certainly not required. But anyone that wanted to be fully honest would have provided a link, so that we can all see the other 4 users that gave it perfect ratings and stated how great the quality was.

By not dong so, I believe, you make it apparent that you are more interested in propping up an expert that says things you want to hear, rather then actually looking at what the issue is. The guy is hard of hearing and clearly has some issues, besides false teeth that really do not fit well.

3. The blog was removed for a reason.
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And what was that reason?

4. I am the most honest person here. Nothing I have stated is dishonest.
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It is dishonest to first claim that the sound is half-duplex - which it is not and it is dishonest to take a review site with 4 out of 5 reviews giving the phone perfect scores and only highlight the one poor review and not link to it.
 
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buck said:
Certainly not required. But anyone that wanted to be fully honest would have provided a link, so that we can all see the other 4 users that gave it perfect ratings and stated how great the quality was.

By not dong so, I believe, you make it apparent that you are more interested in propping up an expert that says things you want to hear, rather then actually looking at what the issue is. The guy is hard of hearing and clearly has some issues, besides false teeth that really do not fit well.



And what was that reason?



It is dishonest to first claim that the sound is half-duplex - which it is not and it is dishonest to take a review site with 4 out of 5 reviews giving the phone perfect scores and only highlight the one poor review and not link to it.
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Good job.
 
Court to resume Saturday at 9:30 a.m. EDT.

Proceeding to hear the defense motion to extend GZ's curfew.

Judge will extend GZ's curfew to 10 p.m. and only allow travel outside Seminole County to travel to his attorney's office.

This will probably increase George's security costs.
 
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