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New evidence: George Zimmerman applied to become a cop but was turned down[W242]

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...rial-cop-application-20130604,0,7772961.story

SANFORD – Prosecutors have filed paperwork, revealing that murder defendant George Zimmerman applied to become a police officer in Prince William County, Md., but was turned down.

His application and rejection letter are among the latest pieces of evidence the state has notified defense attorneys they may use at Zimmerman's trial, which begins Monday.

He was a student at Seminole State College, about to complete a two-year degree in criminal justice, at the time of the shooting.

He also took part in a citizens' academy, a program sponsored by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office that allows people to become more familiar with police work.

On his 2008 application to join that program, he wrote, "I hold law enforcement officers in the highest regard as I hope to one day become one."
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The new evidence list includes information that Zimmerman trained at a Longwood gym that specializes in boxing and kickboxing.

A webpage for the business, Kokopelli's Gym, describes it as "the most complete fight gym in the world."
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1. Wannabe-cop? CHA-CHECK!

2. Trained in boxing & kickboxing? CHA-CHECK!

More evidence Zimmerman's story is pure fabrication.
 
In no way does this negate Z's claim of self defense...

1 M committing an act of unlawful force against Z

2 M attacking Z without adequate provocation.


You have nothing
 
Interesting, but not surprising.
 
Any moment now I expect Leatherman, Sharon, etal to start complaining that the prosecution is just tainting the jury pool with information that will never see the court. What's that? Crickets?
 
sharon said:
If George had fight training, he wasn't the helpless victim he always pretends to be.
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Well, that is not the precise argument I would make if I were prosecuting the case, but it is in the ballpark. Looks to me like they are planning to argue that Zimmerman doesn't even get the self-defense jury instruction to begin with because he was the aggressor.
 
sharon said:
If George had fight training, he wasn't the helpless victim he always pretends to be.
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I was thinking he should get a refund.
Ether that or TM was more advanced than his supporters pretend he was.
I am still not sure what any of this has to do with the events that night.
TM assaulted a stranger, the stranger GZ defended himself.
 
Fisher said:
Well, that is not the precise argument I would make if I were prosecuting the case, but it is in the ballpark. Looks to me like they are planning to argue that Zimmerman doesn't even get the self-defense jury instruction to begin with because he was the aggressor.
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Trayvon didn't train at some fight gym.... I wonder if George had told OMara before this came out?
 
Fisher said:
Well, that is not the precise argument I would make if I were prosecuting the case, but it is in the ballpark. Looks to me like they are planning to argue that Zimmerman doesn't even get the self-defense jury instruction to begin with because he was the aggressor.
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George had fight training and a weapon.. He was not at any disadvantage.
 
Fisher said:
Well, that is not the precise argument I would make if I were prosecuting the case, but it is in the ballpark. Looks to me like they are planning to argue that Zimmerman doesn't even get the self-defense jury instruction to begin with because he was the aggressor.
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Under common law self-defense, you can't bring a gun to a fist fight. The State may argue Z was capable of defending himself but instead he chose to go straight to lethal force.


http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam/news/images/2012/05/zimmerman-hands-0517.JPG
 
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That's not new information nor is it evidence of anything to do with this case.
 
One of the things the fight gym he trained at had were classes in "Submission Grappling"

'Ta pears ole George the bouncer, known by his friends as Tugboat, had a mind to work on his fight skillz after all...

There's NO place in the world quite like Kokopelli's!

Whether you're looking for a safe and comfortable environment for personal fitness training, a premium facility to prepare for your next fight, or the instruction necessary to become an amateur or professional fighter... This is the Place!

Kokopelli's Gym: Orlando Fight Gym
 
This isn't new evidence... And it has nothing to do with the case.
 
clownboy said:
That's not new information nor is it evidence of anything to do with this case.
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Well, it was just released today, and it's part of a new discovery dump, so I think on both those counts, it qualifies.
 
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sharon said:
If George had fight training, he wasn't the helpless victim he always pretends to be.
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That quote is ridiculous. I can have fight training but if I get blindsided I'm going to get hurt. Try again please.
 
sharon said:
George had fight training and a weapon.. He was not at any disadvantage.
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Well, even then, that is probably not what they are triangulating on, though it is a last ditch argument. I think they are planning to try to block the instruction. They won't be successful, but the testimony they illicit for that purpose will likely be used to argue not the disadvantage so much as a reasonable person wouldn't have reacted the way Zimmerman did. If I had to pick a side to represent, I think the prosecution has a clearer path than the defense does. Ultimately the case will probably be decided by the jury on the credibility of Zimmerman. I really don't think he can make a case for self-defense without testifying unless a super eyewitness or cell phone vid of the incident pops up out of the blue somewhere.
 
This one is dedicated to Jack, sharon, stardog and the rest of you out there that think this so called "new evidence" means diddly squat:

 
Old news.

The question should be will the info be allowed in during the court proceedings?

If it is , seems TM background would also be allowed in.

So what is the point of the OP?
 
mike2810 said:
Old news.

The question should be will the info be allowed in during the court proceedings?

If it is , seems TM background would also be allowed in.

So what is the point of the OP?
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The point is the same with them as it always is... to find anything their imagination can run with that will prop up their phony belief that their really is evidence that backs up their crap.
 
Paperview said:
Oh really. Since it was just released today, how in the world did you know about it last year?
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Well, someone found out, and made a thread about it on this website, and then many people kept referring back to it as time went on.

We have been discussing this story for longer than you've been a member of this forum.
 
Paperview said:
Oh really. Since it was just released today, how in the world did you know about it last year?
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I don't think they realize that George was turned down in Md and in Florida.
 
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