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Appellate court rules George Zimmerman attorneys can depose Benjamin Crump

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Appellate court rules George Zimmerman attorneys can depose Benjamin Crump

SANFORD, Fla. - An appellate court ruled on Monday that George Zimmerman's attorneys can depose Benjamin Crump, the family attorney of Trayvon Martin.

The court said the defense can ask about "circumstances surrounding the interview of Witness 8," the young woman Martin was speaking to on the phone just before Zimmerman shot and killed him.

In its unanimous opinion, the three-judge panel from the Fifth District Court of Appeal said, "the deposition contemplated by our opinion should be relatively short and straightforward."​
Appellate court rules George Zimmerman attorneys can depose Benjamin Crump | News - Home​

Wonderful news.
 
Excon said:
Appellate court rules George Zimmerman attorneys can depose Benjamin Crump

SANFORD, Fla. - An appellate court ruled on Monday that George Zimmerman's attorneys can depose Benjamin Crump, the family attorney of Trayvon Martin.

The court said the defense can ask about "circumstances surrounding the interview of Witness 8," the young woman Martin was speaking to on the phone just before Zimmerman shot and killed him.

In its unanimous opinion, the three-judge panel from the Fifth District Court of Appeal said, "the deposition contemplated by our opinion should be relatively short and straightforward."​
Appellate court rules George Zimmerman attorneys can depose Benjamin Crump | News - Home​

Wonderful news.
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Read the actual document.. Its VERY limited.
 
There is a G-d. I knew they would overturn Nelson and this is just the beginning. Hang on 5th Appellate Judges, more hot potatoes are coming your way from Bernie and Nelson. And a unanimous opinion. At least with Lester, it was 2 to 1. Does this mean that they don't consider Crump an opposing counsel?
OMG, I can't wait to read what olde Fred is going to write about this. Hallelujah!!
 
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sharon said:
Read the actual document.. Its VERY limited.
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Do you not understand that it also shows the Judges lack of knowledge in how the law is applied, either that, or a bias?
 
ABC10 said:
There is a G-d. I knew they would overturn Nelson and this is just the beginning. Hang on 5th Appellate Judges, more hot potatoes are coming your way from Bernie and Nelson. And a unanimous opinion. At least with Lester, it was 2 to 1. Does this mean that they don't consider Crump an opposing counsel?
OMG, I can't wait to read what olde Fred is going to write about this. Hallelujah!!
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He's already written. He disagrees with it and, as he is a "professor", he would obviously know better then three judges on the appeals court. I still believe that Fred really doesn't believe half the things he writes about.. He's just found an opportunity to make some money and is writing what he believes his followers want to hear.
 
Excon said:
Do you not understand that it also shows the Judges lack of knowledge in how the law is applied, either that, or a bias?
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Are you a judge or an attorney?
 
sharon said:
Are you a judge or an attorney?
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Are you saying you do not understand what I said?
Because it doesn't take a Judge or Attorney to understand what was said sharon.
 
sharon said:
Read the actual document.. Its VERY limited.
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The court also made sure to explicitly state that O'Mara was barred from asking about his main reason for the depo. Why Crump contacted W8 and how he did so.
 
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Stardog said:
The court also made sure to explicitly state that O'Mara was barred from asking about his main reason for the depo. Why Crump contacted W8 and how he did so.
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where did you see that exclusion so stated?

and regarding the appeals court decision against the prosecution: Bazinga!
 
Here the link to the ruling

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0613/dca5_opinion.pdf

"The ruling allow to inquire as the the substance of Crump’s interview with Witnesss 8 and the circumstances surrounding the interview."

Interesting how some TM supporters have spun that part.

"Should witness 8 testify at trial, Zimmerman is entitled to discover whether such testimony is consistant with prior statements...
and whether such testimony any way has been influenced by the manner in which the interview in question was conducted.

Seems this part negates Stardogs post.

the limit placed is to inquire the circumstance surrounding the inteview and the contents of such inteview..

Seem to me a good ruling that meets the defenses needs.
 
If they can inquire about the stuff in the interview and the surrounding circumstances, how is it limited?
 
sharon said:
Are you a judge or an attorney?
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How could that matter? If only attorneys and judges can give opinions here, we might as well shut the place down.
 
ecofarm said:
If they can inquire about the stuff in the interview and the surrounding circumstances, how is it limited?
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imo, it limits the defense from asking about the HOA lawsuit.
 
ecofarm said:
If they can inquire about the stuff in the interview and the surrounding circumstances, how is it limited?
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They are limited .
I believe what is being pointed out, which O'Mara should already have gotten to the bottom of, is the following:
In concluding that the trial court erred in denying Zimmerman an opportunity to depose Crump, we caution that any deposition of Crump is to be limited to inquiry of circumstances surrounding the interview of Witness 8 and the contents of such interview. Defense counsel may not inquire into Crump’s mental impressions regarding Witness 8, nor may counsel inquire as to the reasons why Crump conducted the interview in the manner in which he did. Additionally, we believe the work product privilege precludes defense counsel from making inquiry as to the reason(s) Crump attempted to locate Witness 8 and the methods employed to do so.​

But he should be able to inquire of Crump about his direct and deliberate lies in his affidavit.
 
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It is interesting the lack of responses on the TM side on this.

Good ruling by the court.
 
mike2810 said:
It is interesting the lack of responses on the TM side on this.

Good ruling by the court.
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It was really ridiculous for the court to hold Crump out as opposing counsel.
 
mike2810 said:
It is interesting the lack of responses on the TM side on this.

Good ruling by the court.
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It is not that big of a deal. Crump already said everything in the affidavit. The court ruled the defense can not ask for more.
 
JackFrost said:
It is not that big of a deal. Crump already said everything in the affidavit. The court ruled the defense can not ask for more.
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The depo is gonna take like 2 min.

O: This is your affidavit of the interview?
C: Yes.
O: And this is an accurate and complete statement of what happened at the interview???
C: Yes.
O: Are you suuuuurrrre????
C: yes.
O: *sigh* No more questions.
 
JackFrost said:
It is not that big of a deal. Crump already said everything in the affidavit. The court ruled the defense can not ask for more.
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:doh
Yeah, it is a pretty big deal for a Judge to get reversed pre-trial.
Yeah it is a pretty big deal now that O'Mara can ask Crump about his lies in the affidavit.
 
Excon said:
:doh
Yeah, it is a pretty big deal for a Judge to get reversed pre-trial.
Yeah it is a pretty big deal now that O'Mara can ask Crump about his lies in the affidavit.
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Can't ask him about his alleged lies. The court was very specific in what the defense can ask.
 
JackFrost said:
Can't ask him about his alleged lies. The court was very specific in what the defense can ask.
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:doh
Wrong Jack.
These lies of his can be questioned.
 
I am sure looking forward to the hearing. And, of course, see Nelson's demeanor after being overturned. I don't think she is clever enough to not show her prosecution bias but we shall see.
 
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