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George Zimmerman Hearing 4-30-13

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George Zimmerman Hearing-4/30 Pt. 1 - YouTube

Trent put the hearing, with his commentary, up on youtube.

No 'Stand Your Ground' for Zimmerman... yet | HLNtv.com

Or if you want to read it, a live blog.

  • No Sanctions for BDLR putting MOM in his place
  • No Discovery Violations, Sanctions
  • Settlement Details, sans amount, will be unsealed for both sides
  • Don West took the stand, failed miserably on cross

Some more spin by MOM:

“Criminal immunity is going to be granted to George by the jury and that is what we are looking towards. So in that context, talking about immunity when we know we’re going to have a jury trial is irrelevant. It truly is."

Why can't this dude just say they will not invoke an immunity hearing:lol:

During Tuesday's hearing, Zimmerman sat staring straight ahead and did show any emotion. It seemed as if he wasn't even paying attention to the proceeding going around him. When it came time for him to answer questions from the judge he seemed timid, and answered with quick answers in a faint voice.

No smirks like the ones on Hannity. What has changed?
 
A jury doesn't award immunity, only a judge does. Why is he misrepresenting?

This the last major hearing. It was a huge blow to the defense. It also came out on cross-examination of West that school officials testified under oath that Trayvon had committed no crimes and carried no weapons (e.g., burglary tools).

O'Mara just called out the Conservative Treehouse live on HLN. He said he doesn't want anyone to believe them.
 
A jury doesn't award immunity, only a judge does. Why is he misrepresenting?

This the last major hearing. It was a huge blow to the defense. It also came out on cross-examination of West that school officials testified under oath that Trayvon had committed no crimes and carried no weapons (e.g., burglary tools).

O'Mara just called out the Conservative Treehouse live on HLN. He said he doesn't want anyone to believe them.

The judge does indeed decide immunity IF this were a stand your ground hearing, but it's not. If the jury decides in his criminal trial that he acted in self defense he will have immunity. But you have to understand both the defense and the prosecution are very much speaking to the public in these pre-trial comments.

And "burglary tools" are not weapons. The school can have found burglary tools on the guy every day for entire semesters and truthfully tesify they never found weapons.
 
The judge does indeed decide immunity IF this were a stand your ground hearing, but it's not. If the jury decides in his criminal trial that he acted in self defense he will have immunity. But you have to understand both the defense and the prosecution are very much speaking to the public in these pre-trial comments.

And "burglary tools" are not weapons. The school can have found burglary tools on the guy every day for entire semesters and truthfully tesify they never found weapons.

Lawyer speak.

You'll notice O'Mara said immunity from CRIMINAL charges.

Not civil, as he would receive from a successful SYG hearing.
 
A jury doesn't award immunity, only a judge does. Why is he misrepresenting?

This the last major hearing. It was a huge blow to the defense. It also came out on cross-examination of West that school officials testified under oath that Trayvon had committed no crimes and carried no weapons (e.g., burglary tools).

From what I understand and assuming it is true, BDLR was only discussing one of the items in the 7 pages of police records. In other words, there may be more that was not discussed.. The judge shut that line of questions down pretty quickly after West started to talk about those 7 pages.
 
From what I understand and assuming it is true, BDLR was only discussing one of the items in the 7 pages of police records. In other words, there may be more that was not discussed.. The judge shut that line of questions down pretty quickly after West started to talk about those 7 pages.

School officials testified under oath that Trayvon had committed no crimes and carried no weapons (e.g., burglary tools).

Baseless arguments circulated around the internet from the Conservative Treehouse is not evidence. This is all Judge Nelson needed to know.

Trayvon Martin committed no crimes. You can't change that, no matter how hard you want to.
 
Baseless arguments circulated around the internet from the Conservative Treehouse is not evidence. This is all Judge Nelson needed to know.

Trayvon Martin committed no crimes. You can't change that, no matter how hard you want to.

I do not go to CTH, and was there only once after Sharon started saying leatherman's posters wre more educated - which I saw no evidence of.

The 7 pages I am talking about was in an interview Omara did with HLN after the hearing.

But, do whatever you need to justify what ever you need to justify.
 
I do not go to CTH, and was there only once after Sharon started saying leatherman's posters wre more educated - which I saw no evidence of.

The 7 pages I am talking about was in an interview Omara did with HLN after the hearing.

But, do whatever you need to justify what ever you need to justify.

Baseless arguments circulated around the internet from the Conservative Treehouse

You did not need to go to the Conservitive Treehouse to have heard the baseless arguments, as I said they were circulated around the internet.

But, do whatever you need to justify what ever you need to justify.
 
You did not need to go to the Conservitive Treehouse to have heard the baseless arguments, as I said they were circulated around the internet.

But, do whatever you need to justify what ever you need to justify.

Omara calrified it during an interview with HLN... It was not obtained from "around the internet", and it makes sense when listening to that part of West's questioning. He started clarifying about the police records that BDLR asked about, and the judge quickly stopped him when he started talking about other items.
 
The judge does indeed decide immunity IF this were a stand your ground hearing, but it's not. If the jury decides in his criminal trial that he acted in self defense he will have immunity. But you have to understand both the defense and the prosecution are very much speaking to the public in these pre-trial comments.

And "burglary tools" are not weapons. The school can have found burglary tools on the guy every day for entire semesters and truthfully tesify they never found weapons.

I don't believe that is the the proper standard of proof for immunity. Immunity requires "preponderance of the evidence" produced by the defense. If there is an acquittal, that only means the prosecution has not proven THEIR case. It does not follow that because the prosecution failed to prove their case that beyond all reasonable doubt that the defense has PRODUCED a preponderance of evidence in their case. Either way, O'mara is getting desperate and gambling in uncharted territory. I believe any motions he makes for immunity at trial will be denied by Judge Nelson because Zimmerman knowingly and voluntarily waived his opportunity for a hearing.

A screwdriver is as much a weapon as it is a burglary tool. In the end, it's simply a screwdriver. And school officials already testified he committed no crime.
 
George Zimmerman Hearing-4/30 Pt. 1 - YouTube

Trent put the hearing, with his commentary, up on youtube.

No 'Stand Your Ground' for Zimmerman... yet | HLNtv.com

Or if you want to read it, a live blog.

  • No Sanctions for BDLR putting MOM in his place
  • No Discovery Violations, Sanctions
  • Settlement Details, sans amount, will be unsealed for both sides
  • Don West took the stand, failed miserably on cross

Some more spin by MOM:



Why can't this dude just say they will not invoke an immunity hearing:lol:



No smirks like the ones on Hannity. What has changed?

Trayvon's phone shouldn't be such a problem.. I don't have my children's passwords.. and, I would expect George's GPS records to show where he went that Sunday night.

I think OMara and West are just squirming....

George appears to still be gaining weight as of April 30th.
 
Trayvon's phone shouldn't be such a problem..
And yet all the prosecution has done in regards to those records is obstruct.
Handing over a .bin file? That is ridiculous.


I don't have my children's passwords..
As you already know, that was, and still is, irrelevant.


and, I would expect George's GPS records to show where he went that Sunday night.
As Trayvon's should.
I wonder why they haven't turned that data over yet.
But we do know the defense found out through the FDLE that the cell-tower records show Trayvon was further out than just a straight shot to and from the store.


I think OMara and West are just squirming....
Clearly you do not understand what is going on in regards to the evidence.
 
And yet all the prosecution has done in regards to those records is obstruct.
Handing over a .bin file? That is ridiculous.



As you already know, that was, and still is, irrelevant.


As Trayvon's should.
I wonder why they haven't turned that data over yet.
But we do know the defense found out through the FDLE that the cell-tower records show Trayvon was further out than just a straight shot to and from the store.



Clearly you do not understand what is going on in regards to the evidence.
T's cell tower map shows he was out 'singing-in-the-rain' in the dark about an eighth of a mile from a straight line from the store to the complex. I'm guessing he was practicing for his Gene Kelly' role in the upcoming MIT music club's production.
 
T's cell tower map shows he was out 'singing-in-the-rain' in the dark about an eighth of a mile from a straight line from the store to the complex. I'm guessing he was practicing for his Gene Kelly' role in the upcoming MIT music club's production.

He was sheltering from the heavy rain which came up between 7 PM and 7:12 PM.

You need to look at a map.
 
T's cell tower map shows he was out 'singing-in-the-rain' in the dark about an eighth of a mile from a straight line from the store to the complex. I'm guessing he was practicing for his Gene Kelly' role in the upcoming MIT music club's production.
He was sheltering from the heavy rain which came up between 7 PM and 7:12 PM.

You need to look at a map.
sharon, what you said in reply to what you quoted above, has absolutely nothing to do with what he said. Doh!

Secondly, during the hearing O'Mara said that the tower records indicate that Trayvon was NW a distance of the 7/11 store.
That would not indicate sheltering as he could have done that at, or outside of, the 7/11.
 
He was sheltering from the heavy rain which came up between 7 PM and 7:12 PM.

You need to look at a map.
Will do 'M'. So your little twelve year old Black cherub was "sheltering in the rain" for a full two minutes. I'm too busy C&Ping your BS posts here to stick them 'you know where' to worry about whether T was getting his pants wet from the rain or from 'phone-*******' a retarded girl.
 
Will do 'M'. So your little twelve year old Black cherub was "sheltering in the rain" for a full two minutes. I'm too busy C&Ping your BS posts here to stick them 'you know where' to worry about whether T was getting his pants wet from the rain or from 'phone-*******' a retarded girl.

The timeline suggests that he was sheltering from the rain between 6:54 PM and 7:10 PM.

BTW..I don't like threatening PMs..You should see a doctor about your obsession.
 
The timeline suggests that he was sheltering from the rain between 6:54 PM and 7:10 PM.

BTW..I don't like threatening PMs..You should see a doctor about your obsession.

First Excon, now niff? Zimmerman supporters are very abusive and aggressive:(
 
First Excon, now niff? Zimmerman supporters are very abusive and aggressive:(
You need to check yourself.

She and Dolphin made false accusations. One's I clearly stated were false.
And as a matter of fact, it is those false allegations that are characteristic of one who is aggressive and abusive, as we know Traybots are.
 
sharon, what you said in reply to what you quoted above, has absolutely nothing to do with what he said. Doh!

Secondly, during the hearing O'Mara said that the tower records indicate that Trayvon was NW a distance of the 7/11 store.
That would not indicate sheltering as he could have done that at, or outside of, the 7/11.
Figures that she would continue to ignore what was said.
 
You'd think after a year of them losing they would have figured out we aren't giving up.
Of course, a false statement and baiting from you as usual.
So typical.

Still just showing you are here to be disruptive.
 
Of course, a false statement and baiting from you as usual.
So typical.

Still just showing you are here to be disruptive.


Ah, the personal attack king returns as predicted.
 
Ah, the personal attack king returns as predicted.
What are you taking about?
We already know you are here and will return with you false statements.
It is who you are and what you do. And continually shows that you are here to be disruptive.
 
What are you taking about?
We already know you are here and will return with you false statements.
It is who you are and what you do. And continually shows that you are here to be disruptive.

More personal attacks. Watch kids there will be more after this one. I called it.
 
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