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George Zimmerman's defense reports $10K deficit

There would have been no settlement from the HOA if they had NOT endorsed George a NW and knowingly or unknowingly let him carry a gun.
Wrong sharon.
 
Read or listen to witness Wendy Dorival..
She doesn't matter.
It was cheaper to settle than fight.
What do you not understand about that?

It is exactly what dishonest attorneys like Crump count on.
 
There would have been no settlement from the HOA if they had NOT endorsed George a NW and knowingly or unknowingly let him carry a gun.

BS. You can't prove that. IMO, even if the HOA did not "endorse" the NWatch program, the TM family would have gone after the HOA. Why, lawyers always look for the deepest pocket to tap. Can I prove it, no, as I stated its my opinion they would have brought a suit anyway.
 
BS. You can't prove that. IMO, even if the HOA did not "endorse" the NWatch program, the TM family would have gone after the HOA. Why, lawyers always look for the deepest pocket to tap. Can I prove it, no, as I stated its my opinion they would have brought a suit anyway.

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iLOL
One. That is not an official release in regards to the case. [COLOR="#0000ff"][U][COLOR="#000000"][B]It is a flyer for a ****ing meeting.[/B] [/COLOR][/U][/COLOR]
Two. They can not make that determination.
Three. See the following.
He was not on NW duty that night.
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Lets put to rest any claim that he was on NW.
Singleton asked, and he said no.
Even Singleton understood that he wasn't.

@ approximately the 25:28 mark
[INDENT][SIZE=1]Recording #1 -Interview With Investigator Singleton at SPD Immediately Following Shooting of Trayvon Martin – Part 1 (2/26/2012)

[INDENT][url]http://www.axiomamnesia.com/Audio/George-Zimmerman-Feb-27-Audio-Statements/George-Zimmerman-Audio-Statement-Interview-Feb-26-Trayvon-Martin.mp3[/url][/INDENT][/SIZE][/INDENT][/QUOTE]

Your meeting flyer means absolutely nada. It is meaningless.
 
iLOL
One. That is not an official release in regards to the case. It is a flyer for a ****ing meeting.
Two. They can not make that determination.
Three. See the following.
He was not on NW duty that night.


Your meeting flyer means absolutely nada. It is meaningless.

Meaningless in what way?
 


and that addresses my comment how Sharon?. I mearly stated that even if the HOA didn't endorse the NW program, imo the TM family lawyer would go after the HOA just because it has more money and insurance. You failed to show where that was a wrong opinion.

As I have stated, imo the civil lawsuit against the HOA, settled without a court judgement, was nothing more than a way to extract money.
 
and that addresses my comment how Sharon?. I mearly stated that even if the HOA didn't endorse the NW program, imo the TM family lawyer would go after the HOA just because it has more money and insurance. You failed to show where that was a wrong opinion.

As I have stated, imo the civil lawsuit against the HOA, settled without a court judgement, was nothing more than a way to extract money.



I posted the wrong You tube recording..

THIS is the Wendy Dorval testimony
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I posted the wrong You tube recording..

THIS is the Wendy Dorival testimony
.

 
and that addresses my comment how Sharon?. I mearly stated that even if the HOA didn't endorse the NW program, imo the TM family lawyer would go after the HOA just because it has more money and insurance. You failed to show where that was a wrong opinion.

As I have stated, imo the civil lawsuit against the HOA, settled without a court judgement, was nothing more than a way to extract money.

As opposed to a civil suit going through a court judgement...awarding...wait for it...money???
 
As opposed to a civil suit going through a court judgement...awarding...wait for it...money???

thanks for supporting the opinion that the suit was about money and not who was to blame/liable.:lol:
 
hattip to Paperview :2razz:
:doh
iLOL

Is that what you think?
Even after being shown you are wrong?
Strange that you would tip your hat to yourself for being wrong.
Really strange that is.


Meaning it destroys his argument, and therefore shall be dismissed.
Wrong!
Meaning what I provided rendered it meaningless and as such, as dismissed as you are.
He was not on NW.
 
Meaningless in what way?
Really?
What do you not understand about that just being a flyer?
What do you not understand about that not being an official release?

Really? What is it you do not understand?


I have already shown that he was not on NW that evening.

What more do you want?
And official release that we have already been over?

Ok fine.
You folks want to play at being obtuse. No problem.

From the Official release made by the City Manager as answered by Police Chief Lee dated the following month. Which is after the ridiculously submitted flyer for a meeting.

Why did Mr. Zimmerman have a firearm in his possession while acting in the role of a neighborhood watch member?

Mr. Zimmerman holds a concealed weapon permit issued from the State of Florida. He is authorized to carry the weapon in a concealed manner wherever Florida Statute dictates. Neighborhood Watch programs are designed for members of a neighborhood to be “eyes and ears” for police and to watch out for their neighbors. They are not members of the Police Department nor are they vigilantes. Training provided by law enforcement agencies to Neighborhood Watch organizations stresses non-contact surveillance of suspicious situations and notifying police of those situations so that law enforcement can respond and take control of the situation.

Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred. He was in fact on a personal errand in his vehicle when he observed Mr. Martin in the community and called the Sanford Police Department.

Zimmerman Martin Shooting

When asked, it is pointed out that he was in fact on a personal errand.
Do you understand that?

He wasn't acting in the role of a neighborhood watch, but on a personal errand.
The two things are distinctly different.
Don't you know that?


It is actually hilarious that you folks thought that a flyer for a meeting actually meant anything.
Talk about pathetically grasping.
 
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your quote. "wait for it...money???

I know your confused. It is clear by your posts.

People are sued for reckless endangerment all the time.. People are sued for auto accidents, medical malpractice... for mismanagement of funds... for slip and fall.... Yet YOU determined that when someone's unarmed son is killed walking home from the store, they can't sue.?
 
People are sued for reckless endangerment all the time.. People are sued for auto accidents, medical malpractice... for mismanagement of funds... for slip and fall.... Yet YOU determined that when someone's unarmed son is killed walking home from the store, they can't sue.?

never said that Sharon. You have made a wrong assumption. I never said they should not sue. I mearly have stated that imo the HOA was the wrong ones to sue. That suing anyone (HOA or GZ), before the criminal trial is done makes me believe they are looking for money instead of justice. If they truely wanted to use money as a means to change the HOA/or anyones behavior, why not take it to court? Make it as expensive as possible on the ones you think are guilty. imo, the reason many civil suits are settled out of court is because its estimated to be more economical than going through a trail.

The question remains, why didn't TM's family wait till the criminal trial was over?
 
never said that Sharon. You have made a wrong assumption. I never said they should not sue. I mearly have stated that imo the HOA was the wrong ones to sue. That suing anyone (HOA or GZ), before the criminal trial is done makes me believe they are looking for money instead of justice. If they truely wanted to use money as a means to change the HOA/or anyones behavior, why not take it to court? Make it as expensive as possible on the ones you think are guilty. imo, the reason many civil suits are settled out of court is because its estimated to be more economical than going through a trail.

The question remains, why didn't TM's family wait till the criminal trial was over?

Hopefully they will get both money and justice...

The case should have already gone to trial.... I don't think the Martins should put their lives on hold because OMara keeps stalling and trying to push the date forward.

If George had been found not guilty, it wouldn't have much impact on a civil wrongful death suit.. except to perhaps drive the settlment higher.

The HOA..the Mgment company, their lawyers and the insurance carrier weighed the possibilities carefully.

The key to this case is ... what would a reasonable and prudent man have done under the same circumstances?

Trayvon was not doing anything unlawful or threatening to George or George's property.. George simply got carried away and didn't listen to the NW protocols or the NEN dispatch.
 
Hopefully they will get both money and justice...

The case should have already gone to trial.... I don't think the Martins should put their lives on hold because OMara keeps stalling and trying to push the date forward.

If George had been found not guilty, it wouldn't have much impact on a civil wrongful death suit.. except to perhaps drive the settlment higher.

The HOA..the Mgment company, their lawyers and the insurance carrier weighed the possibilities carefully.

The key to this case is ... what would a reasonable and prudent man have done under the same circumstances?

Trayvon was not doing anything unlawful or threatening to George or George's property.. George simply got carried away and didn't listen to the NW protocols or the NEN dispatch.

I will let this go as your opinion.

In the end Sharon it took two people. Both made bad decisions that night.
 
I will let this go as your opinion.

In the end Sharon it took two people. Both made bad decisions that night.

I disagree.. Trayvon didn't know that he had been profiled or that the police were on their way.. He was't following George..He wasn't carrying a weapon. George had all the information.. Trayvon had none.
 
I disagree.. Trayvon didn't know that he had been profiled or that the police were on their way.. He was't following George..He wasn't carrying a weapon. George had all the information.. Trayvon had none.

and yet, TM made a decision to throw a punch. What he did not?
 
and yet, TM made a decision to throw a punch. What he did not?

You don't know what "decisions" Trayvon made. You don't know whether or not George grabbed at him and tried to detain him.
 
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