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George Zimmerman judge OKs question: Who was the real Trayvon Martin?

hawke812 said:
Cornered? You mean asking for proof when unsubstantiated drivel is being thrown around like candy:lol:
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A word called evidence...read it, know it before posting irrelevant crap

Z's testimony, proof of his injuries, witnesses is that M broke Z's nose...was on top of Z for an extended period, using force *banging his head against the concrete, while Z is yelling for help.

M was a thug....a criminal

That's what the evidence says...
 
OscarB63 said:
where did I say he stole anything? keep flailing, brah
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OscarB63 said:
Whatever, bro. Maybe it is "normal" for teenagers in your culture to be vandals, drug users and thieves, but where I come from teens like that are considered thugs and punks. maybe that's one of the reasons why your 6% of the general population makes up 40 % of the prison population. criminal activity is considered "normal" behavior.

sad really.
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This was someone else?

What do thieves do again?

You say he did not steal anything, but refer to TM as being a thief?
 
hawke812 said:
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This was someone else?

What do thieves do again?
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RIF...reading is fundamental :lamo I didn't realize that Trayvon was a "teenager in your culture". :lamo nowhere in that post did I say Trayvon was a thief or ever stole anything. Check all the other posts, I have been very clear that he was caught with jewelry that he could or would not explain where he got it. Why not piss yourself over the fact that I mentioned "drug user" as well? trayvon wasn't caught using drugs, only with having a bag containing pot residue.

again...keep flailing, brah

You say he did not steal anything, but refer to TM as being a thief?
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dude, you can't even get the simplest of thing correct. I never said he did not steal anything. I never said he did either.

regarding the bag of ladies jewelry he was caught with...where do you think it came from, since Trayvon refused to tell?

1. he stole it

2. someone else stole it and gave it to him to hold

3. he "found it" and just forgot to turn it over to lost and found

4. he actually had a valid reason for having it but was just too much of a defiant punk to tell the administrator

5. some criminal could have forced him to hold it by threatening him and he was ascared to rat them out when he got busted carrying it.

either way you slice it, his actions in that matter show poor judgement/character. At worst, he was a thief. At best, he was an unwilling courier of stolen property.
 
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hawke812 said:
Normal American Teenager.
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maybe by your low standards

You call Trayvon Martin a thug, you call the majority of teenagers (gasp, even white teenagers) thugs.
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the majority of teenagers do not vandalize school property AND bring drugs to school AND post wanna be gangsta pics of themselves AND get caught carrying around suspicious bags-o-loot

Which we know they are not.
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prove it. maybe the majority of teenagers are thugs...even the white ones. I would be willing to bet that you could go to any random city in the US and stop any random 10 teenagers and ask them 10 simple questions that any 5th grader should know and at least 8 of them would miss over half the questions.

the majority of people are just plain stupid. just watch the evening news or any of the "reality shows" or check out people of walmart dot com.
 
hawke812 said:
Normal American Teenager.

You call Trayvon Martin a thug, you call the majority of teenagers (gasp, even white teenagers) thugs.

Which we know they are not.
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:naughty

This is about Trayvon and what he did.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with any other teenager, or what they may do.

Trayvon presented himself as such.
That is what he did, and that is what I hold out he did not that is what he actually was. (Showing again you do not know how to differentiate.)
You haven't shown that he hasn't. Nor could you, as he had held himself out as such.
In many books that does make one such.
Just as all his other actions, as pointed out by others, does.
 
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OscarB63 said:
maybe by your low standards



the majority of teenagers do not vandalize school property AND bring drugs to school AND post wanna be gangsta pics of themselves AND get caught carrying around suspicious bags-o-loot



prove it. maybe the majority of teenagers are thugs...even the white ones. I would be willing to bet that you could go to any random city in the US and stop any random 10 teenagers and ask them 10 simple questions that any 5th grader should know and at least 8 of them would miss over half the questions.

the majority of people are just plain stupid. just watch the evening news or any of the "reality shows" or check out people of walmart dot com.
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1. TM did not bring drugs to school.

2. You have a really poor outlook on America's youth. Seems to me you are taking a personal problem and putting it on Trayvon.
 
hawke812 said:
1. TM did not bring drugs to school.
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maybe or maybe not. he was caught with a bag containing drug residue. so he either

1. brought drugs to school and then smoked or sold them before he got caught hold the bag

2. he was stupid enough to bring his empty bag to school after he had smoked or sold his weed.

either way it looks bad for NO_LIMIT_NIGGA

2. You have a really poor outlook on America's youth.
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just being objective. have you actually taken a look at any of the statistics concerning today's youth? HS graduation rates are down, drug use and criminal activity are up. A couple of states even dropped the requirement of a graduation exam because too many kids were failing it and not being able to graduate.

Seems to me you are taking a personal problem and putting it on Trayvon.
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nope, I'm just looking at Trayvon's behaviors objectively. and I ask myself a couple of questions: would I want my daughter dating a guy who had been kicked out of school 3 times in less than a year? would I leave my son home alone unsupervised if he had just been kicked out of school for the 3rd time in less than a year?

call it whatever you wish, but Trayvon's behavior was not that of the sweet innocent little kid you try to make him out to be.
 
Excon said:
If you believe that, you are lying to yourself.
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give him the benefit of the doubt..he could have just been stupid enough to bring the empty bag to school after he had smoked or sold the drugs ;)
 
OscarB63 said:
maybe or maybe not. he was caught with a bag containing drug residue. so he either

1. brought drugs to school and then smoked or sold them before he got caught hold the bag

2. he was stupid enough to bring his empty bag to school after he had smoked or sold his weed.

either way it looks bad for NO_LIMIT_NIGGA



just being objective. have you actually taken a look at any of the statistics concerning today's youth? HS graduation rates are down, drug use and criminal activity are up. A couple of states even dropped the requirement of a graduation exam because too many kids were failing it and not being able to graduate.



nope, I'm just looking at Trayvon's behaviors objectively. and I ask myself a couple of questions: would I want my daughter dating a guy who had been kicked out of school 3 times in less than a year? would I leave my son home alone unsupervised if he had just been kicked out of school for the 3rd time in less than a year?

call it whatever you wish, but Trayvon's behavior was not that of the sweet innocent little kid you try to make him out to be.
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I specifically refer to his actions as those of a teenager.
 
hawke812 said:
I specifically refer to his actions as those of a teenager.
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and I specifically disagree that it is "normal" "acceptable" behavior for a teenager to engage in the combination of ALL the behaviors Trayvon did. one, maybe two, you could chalk it up to "things normal teenagers do" but not ALL of them combined. It is the pattern of behavior that is unacceptable, not each individual behavior when viewed in a vacuum.
 
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