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Trial Date Set!!!

June 2013, and O Mara is unsure about being prepared? Right.
 
SMTA said:
June 2013, and O Mara is unsure about being prepared? Right.
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I'm thinking the longer it takes to get to trial, the more fair the trial will be. Not unusual for the defense to put off trial as long as possible. Witnesses die. Preconceived notions fade. Publicity disappears.
 
I'm thinking the longer it takes to get to trial, the more fair the trial will be..Witnesses die...
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Seriously? How do dead witnesses further the pursuit of fairness, justice and truth?
 
The Stand your ground hearing was set by judge for 45 days prior to June 10th trial. That would put it on April 26, 2013. BTW, someone should notify the judge that Spanky thinks she is wrong for calling it such.
 
Good. Frankly I just want this to end. Not like it's remotely the big deal that people make it out to be.
 
buck said:
The Stand your ground hearing was set by judge for 45 days prior to June 10th trial. That would put it on April 26, 2013. BTW, someone should notify the judge that Spanky thinks she is wrong for calling it such.
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Really? Can you show us one instance where the Judge referred to it as such? Because all I see is how the media portrayed it.
 
June 2013 is actually a pretty quick trial date for a murder case. Many murder cases take 2-3 yrs to go to court.
 
Goody, finally drawing toward the end of this ridiculous media circus. Guy kills another guy, happens every day all over the world. There's absolutely no reason why this case should have been inflated into the issue it has been turned into.
 
Surtr said:
Goody, finally drawing toward the end of this ridiculous media circus. Guy kills another guy, happens every day all over the world. There's absolutely no reason why this case should have been inflated into the issue it has been turned into.
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Guy kills another guy? :roll:

He was a kid.
 
Jerry said:
He was old enough to join the military.
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Old enough to join the military doesn't mean you're instantly transformed into a man.

Didn't your drill sargeant tell you right in your face the day you enlisted into the military that you're stlll a boy and that he will turn you from a mama's boy into a man? It may take a year or two to get you into manhood, but remember, Trayvon wasn't even enlisted yet.
 
dolphinocean said:
Old enough to join the military doesn't mean you're instantly transformed into a man.

Didn't your drill sargeant tell you right in your face the day you enlisted into the military that you're stlll a boy and that he will turn you from a mama's boy into a man? It may take a year or two to get you into manhood, but remember, Trayvon wasn't even enlisted yet.
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You could dance all night with that...that fact is M was adult enough to know wrong from right
 
Surtr said:
Goody, finally drawing toward the end of this ridiculous media circus. Guy kills another guy, happens every day all over the world. There's absolutely no reason why this case should have been inflated into the issue it has been turned into.
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Media hype. Originally I believe the media tried to paint this as "white man murders black teenager for wearing a hoodie in the wrong neighborhood." It got people's emotions stirring and became the cluster**** of an issue that we now see today.
 
ric27 said:
You could dance all night with that...that fact is M was adult enough to know wrong from right
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Still trying to spin out "logic" from illogical argument?

Tell me, how does walking down the street to the store and back while talking on the phone with your girlfriend minding your own business rises to the level of being "adult enough to know wrong from right"?

Zimmerman is a fully grown adult. Why didn't you question his integrity for not know wrong from right?

Nevermind, it's a bias thing.
 
Michael Johnson said:
Doesn't matter, he was still a kid. And he was never in the military.
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We was not a kid, he was old enough to join the military. You make it sound like he was a small child. We wasn't.
 
dolphinocean said:
Old enough to join the military doesn't mean you're instantly transformed into a man.

Didn't your drill sargeant tell you right in your face the day you enlisted into the military that you're stlll a boy and that he will turn you from a mama's boy into a man? It may take a year or two to get you into manhood, but remember, Trayvon wasn't even enlisted yet.
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I was 32 when I joined the military, and I didn't see a drill sergeant for another 7 months after enlisting (you don't ship-off the day you sign, they have to reserve you a spot in a training cycle, and the end of your basic has to line up with the beginning of your AIT, so that reservation can take a while).

If you can join the military, you're not a kid.

Slim@No_Limit_Nigga was 17. Mr. Zimmerman was justified in shooting anyone who made a verbal threat and reached for his gun while in a brawl regardless of their age.

But maybe you have a point, because one certainly cannot describe wannabe gangsters like Tryvon as mature in any sense of the word. Even if we agree that Mr. Zimmerman was harassing/illegally-following Tryvon, the mature and adult thing for Tryvon to do is call the police and file a harassment report, maybe even get a restraining order (it wouldn't be the first time I've heard of over-zealous neighborhood watch). But Tryvon decided to pick a fight, which is very childish, something a kid would do, so I guess I grant you the point.
 
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Jerry said:
I was 32 when I joined the military, and I didn't see a drill sergeant for another 7 months after enlisting (you don't ship-off the day you sign, they have to reserve you a spot in a training cycle, and the end of you basic has to line up with the beginning of your AIT, so that reservation can take a while).

If you can join the military, you're not a kid.
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You are still a kid at the boot camp until they thoroughly trained you to be a man. You don't suddenly and magically transformed into a man the minute you are enlisted and step foot on the military ground.

Trayvon wasn't 32. Neither was he enlisted.

You don't ship-off the day you sign, that's because you're still a kid. They have to reserve you a spot in a training cycle because you're still a kid and needs to be trained to be a man first than a soldier.

A two year old is a small child. That doesn't mean that a bigger 9 year old is suddenly not a child because of his relatively bigger size.
 
dolphinocean said:
You are still a kid at the boot camp until they thoroughly trained you to be a man. You don't suddenly and magically transformed into a man the minute you are enlisted and step foot on the military ground.

Trayvon wasn't 32. Neither was he enlisted.

You don't ship-off the day you sign, that's because you're still a kid. They have to reserve you a spot in a training cycle because you're still a kid and needs to be trained to be a man first than a soldier.

A two year old is a small child. That doesn't mean that a bigger 9 year old is suddenly not a child because of his relatively bigger size.
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I edited while you posted.

I'm giving you the point.
One certainly cannot describe wannabe gangsters like Tryvon as mature in any sense of the word. Even if we agree that Mr. Zimmerman was harassing/illegally-following Tryvon, the mature and adult thing for Tryvon to do is call the police and file a harassment report, maybe even get a restraining order (it wouldn't be the first time I've heard of over-zealous neighborhood watch). But Tryvon decided to pick a fight, which is very childish, something a kid would do, so I guess I grant you the point.
 
Jerry said:
I edited while you posted.

I'm giving you the point.
One certainly cannot describe wannabe gangsters like Tryvon as mature in any sense of the word. Even if we agree that Mr. Zimmerman was harassing/illegally-following Tryvon, the mature and adult thing for Tryvon to do is call the police and file a harassment report, maybe even get a restraining order (it wouldn't be the first time I've heard of over-zealous neighborhood watch). But Tryvon decided to pick a fight, which is very childish, something a kid would do, so I guess I grant you the point.
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Wannable gangsters?

Character assassination will not help your argument. Even if Trayvon was a wannable gangster walking to and from the store minding his own business, there is absolutely no justification for Zimmerman to shoot and kill him.

For crying out loud, Trayvon was the slain victim. Your tactic of blaming the victim to defend the villain isn't the "mature and adult thing" to do either.

There is no evidence for you to claim that "Tryvon decided to pick a fight". Why do you rule out the likely possibility that Trayvon was defending himself?
 
dolphinocean said:
Wannable gangsters?
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Tryvon was a wannabe gangster, yes. The music he listened to, his FB photos, where he tweeted from, how he dressed, etc. Yes, Tryvon was a wannabe gangsta.

I say 'wannabe' because I don't know that he ever actually joined a gang. He certainly enjoyed the lifestyle, though.

dolphinocean said:
Character assassination will not help your argument. Even if Trayvon was a wannable gangster walking to and from the store minding his own business, there is absolutely no justification for Zimmerman to shoot and kill him.
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There are a few events that occurred in between Tryvon walking home from the store and Mr. Zimmerman pulling the trigger that you're forgetting to include...but who needs facts, right?

dolphinocean said:
For crying out loud, Trayvon was the slain victim. Your tactic of blaming the victim to defend the villain isn't the "mature and adult thing" to do either.
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When you start a fist fight instead of simply calling the police, when you knock a guy down and threaten his life, when you reach for his gun...you're not a victim. You're an agressor.

dolphinocean said:
There is no evidence for you to claim that "Tryvon decided to pick a fight". Why do you rule out the likely possibility that Trayvon was defending himself?
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We've had threads and threads and threads on all this already. I'm not going to rehash it. I would just copy/paste what has been said on other TM/GZ threads, offering little original content, bearly more than the 10 character limit the forum requires to post.

You called Tryvon a kid, and I gave you the point. You're right, Tryvon was a kid, because he certainly didn't behave like a mature adult.
 
Jerry said:
We was not a kid, he was old enough to join the military.
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Joining the military doesn't make one an adult and it has nothing to do with him being killed by a maniac.

You make it sound like he was a small child. We wasn't.
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Did I say he was a small child?
 
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