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Why did Zimm get out of his car?

spanky said:
"Speaking of that, when did Zimmerman claim he was following Martin to keep an eye on him? I don't believe he ever said that."

The Hannity interview.

Let me ask you this. At that point, we can hear the unbuckling of the seatbelt, hear you opening the car door, and this dispatch asked you at that point, and this became a very key moment that everyone in the media focused on, and the dispatcher asked you, "are you following him?" And you said yes. Explain that.

ZIMMERMAN: I meant that I was going in the same direction as him, to keep an eye on him so that I could tell the police where he was going. I didn't mean that I was actually pursuing him.

Read more: Exclusive: George Zimmerman breaks silence on 'Hannity'
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Hmm, tells investigators one thing, tells Hannity another:lol:

Zimmerman sure has his story straight.

https://www.txantimedia.com/?p=999
 
hawke812 said:
Hmm, tells investigators one thing, tells Hannity another:lol:

Zimmerman sure has his story straight.

https://www.txantimedia.com/?p=999
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I don't think anyone is going to believe Zimm got out of the car for any other reason then to follow TM. But during the following it becomes clear on the 911 tape the dispatcher is asking for current location or at least a location for Zimm to meet police. The pross will make hay of it but I don't think the jury will be that concerned over this discrepancy so at trial I think this one will go to Zimm.
 
The reason he got out of the car is known. It was so police arrived he could tell them where Martin was or ran off to.
 
joko104 said:
The reason he got out of the car is known. It was so police arrived he could tell them where Martin was or ran off to.
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There's got be more to it than that joko. At each juncture of this incident I try to put myself in the position of Z or T. Now I know that isn't easy, I'm not a NW captain nor am I a black kid having grown up in the environment of inner city Miami. But that's what the jurors are going to try to do as well.

I'm Z, on my way to the store to pick up some bread and milk. I see suspicious kid and there have been incidents in the community so I call it in. The kid circles my car and lifts the bottom of his hoodie and sticks his hand in his waistband. We all know what the means. The kid runs.

It's almost dark, it's rainy and I got groceries to get. I'm a chubby 30 something, I'm not going to run that kid down and even if I do he might be armed. By the time the cops get there he'll probably be a mile away.

So WTF do I get out of the car?

Would you?
 
hawke812 said:
Zimmerman: "I was looking for an address."

/thread

:lamo:lamo:lamo

Where did Zimmerman claim he got out to keep an eye on Martin?
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I think the first time was on the phone to the police at the time. That would seem a good indicator.
 
joko104 said:
I think the first time was on the phone to the police at the time. That would seem a good indicator.
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Indeed he did

:spin:And then he said he was not to investigators verbally and in his statement:spin:

:spin:And than he said something different on the Hannity interview:spin:

Wow I am so dizzy from all the :spin:
 
So anyway. Zimmerman case. Crazy, man.

You know whats even more crazy? How this ordinary, pointless case got so much media attraction that it became a sensation.

One thing about tribunals, people, is that they need a jury to function. Ofc, the defendant can wave the jury if he feels like it... but that is so rare it doesn't matter.

Do you know why law cases are not SUPPOSED to be sensational? Why they are not supposed to be made world news and posted in countless bloody talkshows and news coverages and everything? Because people listen to those things. And then, when a jury needs to be formed it will become VERY hard to find people who haven't heard of the travyon martin case. Because if you take people who have heard of the case they will be biased and the verdict that may result may be a false verdict.

So to all people engaging actively in this process of commenting on this otherwise, very banal and common event, you are actively engaged in disturbing the proper course of the law and contaminating the judicial process by sabotaging the most important component: The jury. I will be amazed if they manage to find a jury.

The trial date has been set for june 10th of next year. I hope there will be even more and more coverage and baseless opinion and non-sense going on... because then, the whole case will be a circus. The sad thing is that this circus will be played with human lives and more importantly, with the integrity of the judicial institution.
 
Rainman05 said:
So anyway. Zimmerman case. Crazy, man.

You know whats even more crazy? How this ordinary, pointless case got so much media attraction that it became a sensation.

One thing about tribunals, people, is that they need a jury to function. Ofc, the defendant can wave the jury if he feels like it... but that is so rare it doesn't matter.

Do you know why law cases are not SUPPOSED to be sensational? Why they are not supposed to be made world news and posted in countless bloody talkshows and news coverages and everything? Because people listen to those things. And then, when a jury needs to be formed it will become VERY hard to find people who haven't heard of the travyon martin case. Because if you take people who have heard of the case they will be biased and the verdict that may result may be a false verdict.

So to all people engaging actively in this process of commenting on this otherwise, very banal and common event, you are actively engaged in disturbing the proper course of the law and contaminating the judicial process by sabotaging the most important component: The jury. I will be amazed if they manage to find a jury.

The trial date has been set for june 10th of next year. I hope there will be even more and more coverage and baseless opinion and non-sense going on... because then, the whole case will be a circus. The sad thing is that this circus will be played with human lives and more importantly, with the integrity of the judicial institution.
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Welcome to the age of the internet. Information is at our fingertips.

No one forced you or anyone else to click on the Zimmerman/Martin case, or watch CNN/FOX/ETC.

Go kick some rocks:violin
 
hawke812 said:
Welcome to the age of the internet. Information is at our fingertips.

No one forced you or anyone else to click on the Zimmerman/Martin case, or watch CNN/FOX/ETC.

Go kick some rocks:violin
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Cute.

You know, I would agree with you but I didn't find out about zimmerman/martin from the CNN, FOX or other mainstream media... but from the alternative media. Rather, sites like this. And because I'm not comfortable being a complete ignorant fu*k I decided to document myself. My findings resulted in the whole thing being just another case of the ~10k race-related murders that happen each year in the USA. Interesting statistics if you check them out.

That being said, I don't care who is guilty. its' not my job. It doesn't concern me, you or most of the people talking about this stupid case. It concerns the prosecutor in charge of this case, the judge, the juries and the defendant.... as well as the afflicted sides. Sensationalizing this story only did it harm.

From the political standpoint where a President went on and made a statement putting himself clearly on one side... to the pressures put on the police departments to the black panther morons asking for a public killing... and all ending in perverting the course of justice.
 
hawke812 said:
Indeed he did

And then he said he was not to investigators verbally and in his statement:spin:

:spin:And than he said something different on the Hannity interview:spin:

Wow I am so dizzy from all the :spin:
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The obvious likely truth is what he said immediately at the time as he did it.

I agree your head is spinning lost in all the details. Oh how complicated this all is!:lol:
 
Rainman05 said:
Cute.

You know, I would agree with you but I didn't find out about zimmerman/martin from the CNN, FOX or other mainstream media... but from the alternative media. Rather, sites like this. And because I'm not comfortable being a complete ignorant fu*k I decided to document myself. My findings resulted in the whole thing being just another case of the ~10k race-related murders that happen each year in the USA. Interesting statistics if you check them out.

That being said, I don't care who is guilty. its' not my job. It doesn't concern me, you or most of the people talking about this stupid case. It concerns the prosecutor in charge of this case, the judge, the juries and the defendant.... as well as the afflicted sides. Sensationalizing this story only did it harm.

From the political standpoint where a President went on and made a statement putting himself clearly on one side... to the pressures put on the police departments to the black panther morons asking for a public killing... and all ending in perverting the course of justice.
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You still here:lol:

No one asked for a killing:lol:

Makes you mad uppity Obama spoke about the case:lol:
 
hawke812 said:
You still here:lol:

No one asked for a killing:lol:

Makes you mad uppity Obama spoke about the case:lol:
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You are correct.

Stupid me. I though the western civilization model embraced law and the clear limination of powers and attributes within a state. Clearly, some are above the law.
 
spanky said:
It will be central to both the pross and defense.
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I seriously doubt it.

What will be central to the defense is getting across to the Jurors (if there is a trial) the reasonable fear he experienced.
And the fact that he tried to get away from Trayvon.

That is what will be central to the defense, no matter what the Persecutor does.



And Tessaesque's point was on the money. There is no reason for you to start all these threads.
Nothing has been lost amongst all of the arguing about them. You just have to be not of the lazy sort to dig them out.

All you are doing is providing another avenue for them to be argued and lost to another newcomer who is too lazy to look them up.
That is all.
 
hawke812 said:
You have to convince Zimmerman of that as well, since he denied trying to "keep an eye" on Martin. Speaking of that, when did Zimmerman claim he was following Martin to keep an eye on him? I don't believe he ever said that. He claimed he got out to look for an address, where he passed right by his friend's (Taffee?) house.

Yeah, a jury will buy an explanation Zimmerman never admitted to. You guys are on to something:lol:

Zimmerman: "I wasn't following him, I was going in the same direction as him...looking for a street address."

Serino: <Laughing> "That is following".

Inv. Chris Serino's Zimmerman Interview Transcripts

Raw Video: George Zimmerman reenacts incident for Sanford Police - YouTube

Nope, nothing of him following to keep an eye. Just him looking for an address. Lame excuse. This dude needs to lie better:lol:
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You really have a bad habit of confusing comments he makes regarding specific time points, with other comments made at other time points.
 
-"Re: Why did Zimm get out of his car?"

Because he was scared.

Scared of a black kid whom he obsessively followed. Well, that's what we were made to believe.
 
Z's statement to 911 and police said TM approached him with his hand in his waistband which would have to be under the hoodie. Everybody in the hood knows what this means, it means you got a gun or at least you want someone to think so.

Why would Z get out his car and follow TM if he thought he might be an armed gangsta?
 
spanky said:
Z's statement to 911 and police said TM approached him with his hand in his waistband which would have to be under the hoodie. Everybody in the hood knows what this means, it means you got a gun or at least you want someone to think so.

Why would Z get out his car and follow TM if he thought he might be an armed gangsta?
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Why question God's Plan? He works in mysterious ways.
 
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