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Is Zimmerman Guilty W/O The Stand Your Ground Law?[W: 217, 225]

I thought after time these threads would get better but it seems they're getting worse. It's all a bunch of "You're an idiot because you believe this" and "Well, you're an idiot because you believe this". Hell even I, who has more points scored here than in most basketball games, is tired of it. Can we please do better than this?
 
Excon said:
And it doesn't matter.

The concrete was saturated.
Which also doesn't matter because the bleeding didn't start until after he was able to scoot away from the concrete and the slamming stopped.
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Did GZ have a magical scalp? You want us to believe his head was repeatedly slammed on concrete but didn't start bleeding until he got away from the concrete? Lol....head lacerations bleed almost faster than anywhere else on the body with the same infliction.

The "saturated concrete" claim is too funny. There is no limit to the absurd claims GZ supporters make.
 
Excon said:
No! You base it on what you want to believe.



Besides you being wrong about road rash, lol one can clearly see the multiple impact areas.

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Good job editing the post to remove facts.

Good job trying to claim a blood trail is an "impact area." Lol....priceless.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Whats that got to do with it? Its not hard to do a slick finish, should have seen the table tops my dad made when he had a cement figurine buisness. There were times I thought that those table tops looked as smooth as glass, yet he didn't do anything special to make them other than use a slightly different mixture and the abatibe(sp?) he poured the cement onto.
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Link to prove what kind of concrete and finish the sidewalks were made of.

You want us to believe the rain was strong enough to wash the blood off the sidewalk but not strong enough to wash it off the grass, GZ's face, and the flashlight? Are you serious?

Let's go with your ridiculous theory for the moment. If it washed it off the sidewalk why wasn't there any blood on the grass next to the sidewalk? Did GZ have super duper magical blood that flew away on magical mosquito wings?
 
Furiounova said:
Good job editing the post to remove facts.
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Irrelevant!

I quoted what I needed to to make my response.



Furiounova said:
Good job trying to claim a blood trail is an "impact area." Lol....priceless.
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Priceless indeed!
iLOL
Especially since no one claimed a blood trail is an impact area.

I wonder why it seems that only those on Trayvon's side of things, see impact areas as discoloration caused by blood. :screwy
I really wonder why that is? :lamo


And some of those impact areas are visible prior to being cleaned up, so can not be discoloration caused by blood.

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The reddened area's are impacts, or what you would call... "road rash". lol
Priceless indeed! :slapme:



Furiounova said:
Did GZ have a magical scalp? You want us to believe his head was repeatedly slammed on concrete but didn't start bleeding until he got away from the concrete? Lol....head lacerations bleed almost faster than anywhere else on the body with the same infliction.
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I do not know why you do not understand the dynamics involved, but that is on you.
His bleeding did not start as soon as his head it the concrete. That can be seen.

Which is pretty much the norm.



Furiounova said:
The "saturated concrete" claim is too funny. There is no limit to the absurd claims GZ supporters make.
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What is funny is your failing to realize that the concrete wasn't dry.
 
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Excon said:
Irrelevant!

I quoted what I needed to to make my response.




Priceless indeed!
iLOL
Especially since no one claimed a blood trail is an impact area.

I wonder why it seems that only those on Trayvon's side of things, see impact areas as discoloration caused by blood. :screwy
I really wonder why that is? :lamo


And some of those impact areas are visible prior to being cleaned up, so can not be discoloration caused by blood.

igs.jpg

Ziminj3.jpg




The reddened area's are impacts, or what you would call... "road rash". lol
Priceless indeed! :slapme:




I do not know why you do not understand the dynamics involved, but that is on you.
His bleeding did not start as soon as his head it the concrete. That can be seen.

Which is pretty much the norm.



What is funny is your failing to realize that the concrete wasn't dry.
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You do realize that the spot the arrow is pointing to in the middle of the upper picture is EXACTLY the same shape as the blood "drip" in the same area i the lower photo, right?
 
What if...? said:
You do realize that the spot the arrow is pointing to in the middle of the upper picture is EXACTLY the same shape as the blood "drip" in the same area i the lower photo, right?
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iLOL
And you do realize that what is being pointed to is an abrasion, right?
 
Goshin said:
Moderator's Warning:
:doh I ought to go through this thread and infract 90% of you posting here. I might still do it.... holey cow what a trainwreck this thread has become.

No, what I really ought to do is infract about ten of you and THEN flush the thread.

Last warning before the Hammer comes out and I go berserk: BEHAVE. Stop the personal attacks. Stop the baiting and flaming. Discuss the topic and not each other's shortcomings. This Is Not A Drill.
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Thank you for warning us first.

:thanks:
 
505 said:
Oh it's anything other than the sidewalk. Couldn't be the sidewalk. We have a 6'2" thug...
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If you're talking about TM I think the ME put him @ 71 inches & 158 lbs.
So TM was 5'11"

So he was 2 inches taller than GZ.
And GZ was 40 lbs heavier than TM.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
If you're talking about TM I think the ME put him @ 71 inches & 158 lbs.
So TM was 5'11"

So he was 2 inches taller than GZ.
And GZ was 40 lbs heavier than TM.
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Trayvon Martin shooting: What do we know? - Crimesider - CBS News

"There is some inconsistency in reports of Martin and Zimmerman's height and weight. In the original police report, Martin is described as being 6' tall and weighing 160 pounds. But his family told CBS News that he was 6' 2" and between 140-150 pounds. Zimmerman is described in the police report as standing 5' 9" tall, with no weight listed. In a 2005 police report, Zimmerman's ex-fiance describes him as 5' 7" and according to the Miami Herald he weighs about 200 pounds."


Just like everything else in this case, getting consistent info is a challenge and there is a lot of bad reporting out there. So who knows?
 
Aberration said:
Why the assumption GZ is conning anyone?
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Here's the problem IMO.. Everything was wet. .. and there was blood in the grass, on the flashlight and on George's head.. So, why wasn't there blood on the concrete?

It didn't rain selectively everywhere except the sidewalk.
 
505 said:
Just like everything else in this case, getting consistent info is a challenge and there is a lot of bad reporting out there. So who knows?
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My understanding is that TM was very cooperative for the ME when the ME measured and weighed TM.
So I suspect that the ME got it right.
ymmv
The actual ME report has been released. Perhaps since that article came out? idk.
 
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