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Tea Party Nation formally calls for Angela Corey to be disbarred/voted out.

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The "Tea Party Nation" formally has called for the disbarment and/or election removal of Angela Corey. https://www.onekingslane.com/join-b...geting)&utm_content=Content(demographic)|PPCA



Actually they have good reason:

This is the oath of office Angela Corey took, word for word:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support, protect, and defend the Constitution and Government of the United States and of the State of Florida; that I am duly qualified to hold office under the Constitution of the State, and that I will well and faithfully perform the duties of District Attorney on which I am now about to enter, so help me God. (If the official is only affirming may delete "So help me God.)


This is the exact wording of the Constitution of the United States:

United States Constitution's Bill of Rights


No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


There is no infamous Crime than Murder and Zimmerman is charged with the a first degree felony offense of murder. No grand jury has charged George Zimmerman with so much as a parking ticket, let alone no grand jury indictment for murder.

Angela Corey declared she is above the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights, and is a pathological liar who spit on her oath of office and did the exact opposite for her own political and person profit goals. She never even pretended to offer any excuse. Just declared herself a self appointed demigod.

Get rid of Angela Corey.
 
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The "Tea Party Nation" formally has called for the disbarment and/or election removal of Angela Corey. https://www.onekingslane.com/join-b...geting)&utm_content=Content(demographic)|PPCA



Actually they have good reason:

This is the oath of office Angela Corey took, word for word:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support, protect, and defend the Constitution and Government of the United States and of the State of Florida; that I am duly qualified to hold office under the Constitution of the State, and that I will well and faithfully perform the duties of District Attorney on which I am now about to enter, so help me God. (If the official is only affirming may delete "So help me God.)


This is the exact wording of the Constitution of the United States:

United States Constitution's Bill of Rights


No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


There is no infamous Crime than Murder and Zimmerman is charged with the a first degree felony offense of murder.

Get rid of Angela Corey.

Interesting. It's not a capital crime, of course (second-degree murder); but it is most certainly infamous.
 
Interesting. It's not a capital crime, of course (second-degree murder); but it is most certainly infamous.

Each state structures terms differently. For example, in Florida "SECOND degree murder" is a FIRST degree felony. A first degree felony is THE most serious crime EXCEPT a "capital" offense - "capital" means death penalty.
 
Interesting. It's not a capital crime, of course (second-degree murder); but it is most certainly infamous.

It isn't interesting. It is pure ignorance because M2 does not require a GJ and this is a perfect example of stretching for an agenda.

joko still hasn't had the integrity to admit his "80%" thread is completely false and the fact no GZ supporters hold him accountable is sad.
 
Each state structures terms differently. For example, in Florida "SECOND degree murder" is a FIRST degree felony. A first degree felony is THE most serious crime EXCEPT a "capital" offense - "capital" means death penalty.

This is like your BS 80% thread where you are simply spreading misinformation for an agenda. TPN is not exactly known for intellectual prowess so dabbing in Constitutional law is like sending Britney Spears to NASA to help design a Mars colony.
 
why does the OP link keep going to a commercial housewares site?
 
Each state structures terms differently. For example, in Florida "SECOND degree murder" is a FIRST degree felony. A first degree felony is THE most serious crime EXCEPT a "capital" offense - "capital" means death penalty.

You....just proved your own OP claim......false......
 
The fifth amendment applies to the FEDERAL government, not the states... Learn the constitution teabaggers!
 
The fifth amendment applies to the FEDERAL government, not the states... Learn the constitution teabaggers!

"While the Fifth Amendment originally only applied to federal courts, the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted the Fifth Amendment's provisions as now applying to the states through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment."
Fifth Amendment | LII / Legal Information Institute

oops.
 
Did anybody actually click his link?


Eight replies and no one bothered?


LOL
:doh
 
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"While the Fifth Amendment originally only applied to federal courts, the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted the Fifth Amendment's provisions as now applying to the states through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment."
Fifth Amendment | LII / Legal Information Institute

oops.

No, some elements of the fifth have been incorporated to apply to the states because of the due process clause of the 14th amendment, but the grand jury requirement is not one of them:

Hurtado v. California - 110 U.S. 516 (1884) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center
Palko v. Connecticut - 302 U.S. 319 (1937) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center
 
No, some elements of the fifth have been incorporated to apply to the states because of the due process clause of the 14th amendment, but the grand jury requirement is not one of them:

Hurtado v. California - 110 U.S. 516 (1884) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center
Palko v. Connecticut - 302 U.S. 319 (1937) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center

You claimed the 5th applies only to the Federal government. Are you now modifying your claim?

Which states allow indictments on Capital crimes without a GJ?
 
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You claimed the 5th applies only to the Federal government. Are you now modifying your claim?

Well, let me explain it in more detail. The 5th does only apply to the federal government. However, the 14th amendment also uses language about "due process" like the 5th does. The courts interpreted "due process" as meaning the same thing as is spelled out in many of the provisions of the bill of rights. Over the years the courts have gone through most of the core protections in the bill of rights and said this one and that one also apply to states not because that amendment directly applies to the states, but because they think it is part of due process. But only the fundamental ones. Things without which you couldn't be said to have due process. The specifics about grand juries was found NOT to be one of those fundamental requirements in those two cases I cited for you, so it was not incorporated into the 14th.

Which states allow indictments on Capital crimes without a GJ?

Dunno.
 
Well, let me explain it in more detail. The 5th does only apply to the federal government. However, the 14th amendment also uses language about "due process" like the 5th does. The courts interpreted "due process" as meaning the same thing as is spelled out in many of the provisions of the bill of rights. Over the years the courts have gone through most of the core protections in the bill of rights and said this one and that one also apply to states not because that amendment directly applies to the states, but because they think it is part of due process. But only the fundamental ones. Things without which you couldn't be said to have due process. The specifics about grand juries was found NOT to be one of those fundamental requirements in those two cases I cited for you, so it was not incorporated into the 14th.



Dunno.

Well that is changing your claim and that is fine. I asked which states use them because the only way it would be incorporated is if it was challenged. With 1937 being the latest date of an example given, I suspect it hasn't been challenged lately.
 
Well that is changing your claim and that is fine. I asked which states use them because the only way it would be incorporated is if it was challenged. With 1937 being the latest date of an example given, I suspect it hasn't been challenged lately.

How is it changing my claim? The fifth does only apply to the federal government. The whole bill of rights only applies to the federal government. It is just that the courts have borrowed some of the core provisions from the bill of rights into their idea of what "due process" means in the 14th amendment too. People do say "the bill of rights applies to the states" sometimes, but they're just being imprecise for simplicity's sake.
 
I thought the Tea Party was just about spending and taxes.
 
I thought the Tea Party was just about spending and taxes.

To some tea partiers (not all) it's all related. Some of them see all the talk about welfare and taxes and whatnot as a process of defending white "Real Americans" against black people. Black = welfare = socialism and white = taxpayer = "Real American". It's all idiotic of course. Only 1% of blacks are on actual welfare. More whites are. But, whatever, that's how they see it. So, to those types, this is just another venue in which "Real Americans" are fighting against "socialism".
 
To some tea partiers (not all) it's all related. Some of them see all the talk about welfare and taxes and whatnot as a process of defending white "Real Americans" against black people. Black = welfare = socialism and white = taxpayer = "Real American". It's all idiotic of course. Only 1% of blacks are on actual welfare. More whites are. But, whatever, that's how they see it. So, to those types, this is just another venue in which "Real Americans" are fighting against "socialism".


1%??? Where do you get that number from?
 
To some tea partiers (not all) it's all related. Some of them see all the talk about welfare and taxes and whatnot as a process of defending white "Real Americans" against black people. Black = welfare = socialism and white = taxpayer = "Real American". It's all idiotic of course. Only 1% of blacks are on actual welfare. More whites are. But, whatever, that's how they see it. So, to those types, this is just another venue in which "Real Americans" are fighting against "socialism".
I seriously doubt your 1% figure, but whites better be, considering they make up a larger portion of the population.
 
I seriously doubt your 1% figure, but whites better be, considering they make up a larger portion of the population.

I posted the proof one post again. Again:

1.723 million people get actual welfare (TANF)

Of those, 33% are black

So, that's 568k black people getting welfare

There are 39 million black people in the US.

568k / 39 million = 1.4%
 
I posted the proof one post again. Again:

1.723 million people get actual welfare (TANF)

Of those, 33% are black

So, that's 568k black people getting welfare

There are 39 million black people in the US.

568k / 39 million = 1.4%
Thanks. Your post wasn't there when I initiated mine.


So it is greater than 1%.
And White do not make up a greater percentage for this demographic.
Yet it doesn't include food stamps or section 8.



Nor is it a proper comparison.

33.3% for Blacks on TANF, while compared to their being only roughly 13.1% of the population as a whole.


31.2% for Whites on TANF while compared to their being only roughly 78.1% of the population as a whole.

Yeah there is a disproportionately more blacks are on Welfare than whites by percentage of their respective population.


I say roughly because, TANF figures are from 2009, while percent of Population by race is from 2011.

USA QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
 
Yet it doesn't include food stamps or section 8.

Right. This is for welfare only. Not food stamps, section 8 or anything else.

Yeah there is a disproportionately more blacks are on Welfare than whites by percentage of their respective population.

Yep, that's right. A higher percentage of blacks are on welfare, but a higher percentage of the people on welfare are white. So, you get why the black = welfare stance of at least some tea partiers is bs, right?
 
Right. This is for welfare only. Not food stamps, section 8 or anything else.



Yep, that's right. A higher percentage of blacks are on welfare, but a higher percentage of the people on welfare are white. So, you get why the black = welfare stance of at least some tea partiers is bs, right?
That stance really isn't wrong.
We have disproportionate population numbers to start, so the comparison should be to respective population.

That is how to put the numbers into proper perspective.
 
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