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If threads are merged, I believe the other pre-interview attack thread should be merged to this one so it starts neutral.
The hate-title thread by the rabid anti-Zimmerman noob on this topic seemed inappropriate. This topic should at least start out neutral rather than as a pre-broadcast conspiracy hate titled thread. The interview was long, not the typical media 45 seconds interviews. Notably, Hannity travels to Zimmerman's city Florida for the Interview.
A neutral summary of the interview as it happens...
Summary:
1. He said he was coming back from Target for grocery shopping, not out on neighborhood crime watch. Said he has never been home since.
2. Said that in August, 2011, there was a home invasion against a woman with a child in the community. Her wife saw it and scared him.
3. That he carried a gun at all times except to work.
4. Never heard of "stand your ground" before the incident.
5. Said TM looked suspicious because:
it was raining
between houses
looking around
too leisurely for being in the rain
didn't look like someone training in the rain
6. He thought TM reached into his waistband trying to intimidate GZ.
7. He knew TM was checking out GZ by his demeanor and body language.
8. Said his exact word was "punks."
9. Said was "Clear as day in police station" it was "punks."
10. Did not believe TM was running or more precisely "skipping" away out of "fear."
11. When he said "I was following him" he "did not mean pursuing him" and he was not running. Instead he was trying to" keep an eye on" TM to be able to tell police where TM went.
12. From that point, GZ walked across the sidewalk to his street where he thought he would meet a police officer. He did not continue to follow TM.
13. He said he wanted to make sure no one could hear his address and was making sure that no one would surprise me, and wanting to give an accurate location.
14. Wanted to call police back with a current address and number rather than just "the clubhouse."
15. Less than 30 seconds later, 100+ feet from his car, TM was suddenly behind him.
16. TM asked what his problem was. He said he didn't have a problem.
17. GZ had put his cell phone into his jacket pocket. He reached into his pants pocket by mistake to this time call 911.
18. He looked up and TM punched him in the nose. Unsure if knocked down or shoved down. But he went down.
19. Then started "bashing" his head into the concrete sidewalk. "Slamming my head into the concrete."
20. TM continued to punch GM in the head, :more than a dozen times."
21. Felt he would lose consciousness due to his head hit in the concrete, and that is when he - in retrospect - believed his life was in danger.
22. TM was "straddled" over him, as GZ tried to slide over (shimmy) to the grass to protect his head from the concrete.
23. TM was cursing GZ, telling TM to shut up and that TM said he was going to kill him.
24. GZ "shimming" over to the grass, it exposed GZ's gun.
25. TM then tried to smoother him, shouting to "shut up" and it caused excurtiating pain with his nose broken.
26. It was him who was screaming.
27. Believed TM was trying to silence GZ screaming for help.
28. GZ believed police may already be there and would hear him shouting for help.
29. "I realized it was not my gun or his gun, it was the gun."
30. TM said "you're going to die tonight" and was reaching for GZ's gun down his side.
31. It happened to quickly he can not say if he consciously decided he has to use his gun to save his life at a specific moment or just acted.
32. Hannity said a witness saw TM over GZ, but did not see the shooting moment so there was no witness. GZ said he himself is a witness.
33. "I am not a racist. I am not a murderer."
34. GZ didn't think he had hit TM.
35. GZ knew TM died an hour later at the police station. TM "sat up and said something like you got it" and he thought TM meant he had got the gun.
36. GZ felt it was "all God's plan" and he would not second judge it. He can not say anything he would not do anything different.
37. There are "geographic advantages in our neighbhood for burglars."
38. GZ can't say what TM's motive was. The ordeal has been the media conjectures.
39. "I would tell them (his parents) I am sorry..." and spoke of a parents love for their children. He prays for them. Is sorry for their lose. Is open to talking to TM's parents.
40. GZ thinks everyday of the possibility of a life sentence. GZ is "confident in the system" because he has to been.
41. Hannity said the first witness said GZ looked like he had been "butt whipped" but that GZ was calm. GZ said he feared the police would come and see him with a gun and shot him - that he was terrified. He said police showed up in 15 to 30 seconds.
42. Of media attention... The media attention is "surreal" and he doesn't like their "rush to judgment," and he believes that they interprets to negatives.
43. GZ was offered nothing and paid nothing for the interview.
44. GZ said he was talking "daily" to one officer with legitimate concerns for GZ's safety - GZ was out of state and armed - and told his wife to stay away in Florida. His father had 2 weeks prior to incident.
45. His wife had 1 week to finishing nursing (school).
46. GZ feels his life is in jeopardy and has had multiple death threats.
47. GZ said he can not guess what Sharpston's and others motives are. He wishes Sharpston would apologize to him.
48. Of the charge of being racist by that girl... that the FBi cleared him and that the girl never said that he was racist, and it worth comment that she also is the only person said he is a racist.
49. At this point the attorney started speaking for first time - the attorney cut off discussing the charge of molesting that girl.
50. Attorney said SYG is applicable in the case. This is a first according to him. The attorney said it is both SYG and self defense.
51. OMara again interjected, stopped answering about the bond hearings and money, saying because charges are against his wife and may be against him.
52. GZ said people know the media does not report things always accurately and feels many people support him being innocent.
53. It was always the police who asked the race of who he called about, and also white and hispanic kids.
54. GZ and his wife saw that a homeless man caught on video being abused by police, so they drove around to churches putting flyers on peoples cars in the parking lot - the homeless man "a minority" ... (Hannity changed topic)
55. GZ took three lie detector tests voluntarily and passed.
56. Hannity said press portrays it as a white guy shooting an unarmed... GZ said English is his second language and that he is an Hispanic American. He said the media "rushed to judgment."
57. GZ was walking towards his street, as TM went down between houses. He was trying to get an exact address, not just general area.
58. To TM's family and the American public: GZ said: "First readdress, if I had done anything different, he meant post events. He wished there was anything he could have done to not be in a position to take his (TM's) life." He wanted to tell everyone he is "sorry this happened..." and to extent it polarized people he is "truly sorry."
It suddenly ended at that point with no commenting by Hannity.
The hate-title thread by the rabid anti-Zimmerman noob on this topic seemed inappropriate. This topic should at least start out neutral rather than as a pre-broadcast conspiracy hate titled thread. The interview was long, not the typical media 45 seconds interviews. Notably, Hannity travels to Zimmerman's city Florida for the Interview.
A neutral summary of the interview as it happens...
Summary:
1. He said he was coming back from Target for grocery shopping, not out on neighborhood crime watch. Said he has never been home since.
2. Said that in August, 2011, there was a home invasion against a woman with a child in the community. Her wife saw it and scared him.
3. That he carried a gun at all times except to work.
4. Never heard of "stand your ground" before the incident.
5. Said TM looked suspicious because:
it was raining
between houses
looking around
too leisurely for being in the rain
didn't look like someone training in the rain
6. He thought TM reached into his waistband trying to intimidate GZ.
7. He knew TM was checking out GZ by his demeanor and body language.
8. Said his exact word was "punks."
9. Said was "Clear as day in police station" it was "punks."
10. Did not believe TM was running or more precisely "skipping" away out of "fear."
11. When he said "I was following him" he "did not mean pursuing him" and he was not running. Instead he was trying to" keep an eye on" TM to be able to tell police where TM went.
12. From that point, GZ walked across the sidewalk to his street where he thought he would meet a police officer. He did not continue to follow TM.
13. He said he wanted to make sure no one could hear his address and was making sure that no one would surprise me, and wanting to give an accurate location.
14. Wanted to call police back with a current address and number rather than just "the clubhouse."
15. Less than 30 seconds later, 100+ feet from his car, TM was suddenly behind him.
16. TM asked what his problem was. He said he didn't have a problem.
17. GZ had put his cell phone into his jacket pocket. He reached into his pants pocket by mistake to this time call 911.
18. He looked up and TM punched him in the nose. Unsure if knocked down or shoved down. But he went down.
19. Then started "bashing" his head into the concrete sidewalk. "Slamming my head into the concrete."
20. TM continued to punch GM in the head, :more than a dozen times."
21. Felt he would lose consciousness due to his head hit in the concrete, and that is when he - in retrospect - believed his life was in danger.
22. TM was "straddled" over him, as GZ tried to slide over (shimmy) to the grass to protect his head from the concrete.
23. TM was cursing GZ, telling TM to shut up and that TM said he was going to kill him.
24. GZ "shimming" over to the grass, it exposed GZ's gun.
25. TM then tried to smoother him, shouting to "shut up" and it caused excurtiating pain with his nose broken.
26. It was him who was screaming.
27. Believed TM was trying to silence GZ screaming for help.
28. GZ believed police may already be there and would hear him shouting for help.
29. "I realized it was not my gun or his gun, it was the gun."
30. TM said "you're going to die tonight" and was reaching for GZ's gun down his side.
31. It happened to quickly he can not say if he consciously decided he has to use his gun to save his life at a specific moment or just acted.
32. Hannity said a witness saw TM over GZ, but did not see the shooting moment so there was no witness. GZ said he himself is a witness.
33. "I am not a racist. I am not a murderer."
34. GZ didn't think he had hit TM.
35. GZ knew TM died an hour later at the police station. TM "sat up and said something like you got it" and he thought TM meant he had got the gun.
36. GZ felt it was "all God's plan" and he would not second judge it. He can not say anything he would not do anything different.
37. There are "geographic advantages in our neighbhood for burglars."
38. GZ can't say what TM's motive was. The ordeal has been the media conjectures.
39. "I would tell them (his parents) I am sorry..." and spoke of a parents love for their children. He prays for them. Is sorry for their lose. Is open to talking to TM's parents.
40. GZ thinks everyday of the possibility of a life sentence. GZ is "confident in the system" because he has to been.
41. Hannity said the first witness said GZ looked like he had been "butt whipped" but that GZ was calm. GZ said he feared the police would come and see him with a gun and shot him - that he was terrified. He said police showed up in 15 to 30 seconds.
42. Of media attention... The media attention is "surreal" and he doesn't like their "rush to judgment," and he believes that they interprets to negatives.
43. GZ was offered nothing and paid nothing for the interview.
44. GZ said he was talking "daily" to one officer with legitimate concerns for GZ's safety - GZ was out of state and armed - and told his wife to stay away in Florida. His father had 2 weeks prior to incident.
45. His wife had 1 week to finishing nursing (school).
46. GZ feels his life is in jeopardy and has had multiple death threats.
47. GZ said he can not guess what Sharpston's and others motives are. He wishes Sharpston would apologize to him.
48. Of the charge of being racist by that girl... that the FBi cleared him and that the girl never said that he was racist, and it worth comment that she also is the only person said he is a racist.
49. At this point the attorney started speaking for first time - the attorney cut off discussing the charge of molesting that girl.
50. Attorney said SYG is applicable in the case. This is a first according to him. The attorney said it is both SYG and self defense.
51. OMara again interjected, stopped answering about the bond hearings and money, saying because charges are against his wife and may be against him.
52. GZ said people know the media does not report things always accurately and feels many people support him being innocent.
53. It was always the police who asked the race of who he called about, and also white and hispanic kids.
54. GZ and his wife saw that a homeless man caught on video being abused by police, so they drove around to churches putting flyers on peoples cars in the parking lot - the homeless man "a minority" ... (Hannity changed topic)
55. GZ took three lie detector tests voluntarily and passed.
56. Hannity said press portrays it as a white guy shooting an unarmed... GZ said English is his second language and that he is an Hispanic American. He said the media "rushed to judgment."
57. GZ was walking towards his street, as TM went down between houses. He was trying to get an exact address, not just general area.
58. To TM's family and the American public: GZ said: "First readdress, if I had done anything different, he meant post events. He wished there was anything he could have done to not be in a position to take his (TM's) life." He wanted to tell everyone he is "sorry this happened..." and to extent it polarized people he is "truly sorry."
It suddenly ended at that point with no commenting by Hannity.
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