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Zimmerman claims judge is biased, wants him replaced

i look at houses when I walk to DD at night.

You're walking to DD slowly in the rain while looking in and at houses? Yes,I find that a bit odd. Do you see a lot of other people out walking slowly in the rain while you are taking your little excursions?
 
Zimmerman claims judge is biased, wants him replaced
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excellent move by o'mara

His failure to do so was strongly suggesting incompetence or indifference of the defense attorney.

The judge has shown himself to be grossly bias against Zimmerman, made outrageous personal attacks and political statements against Zimmerman, and openly declared his condemnations of Zimmerman were made upon improper extra judicial speculations and outside of any evidence.
 
Fine, let him have a new judge. Who cares.
 
Now THAT'S racist. Shame on you.



I don't know....I'm not sure he doesn't have a point. The judge did comment that the State had a strong case against GZ. I'm not at all sure he should have done that. It is not his job to evaluate and comment on the strength of the evidence. At least I don't think it is -- either before or during the trial.

It was a grossly improper statement, particularly since Zimmerman has an absolute right to pick between an IMPARTIAL judge OR a jury. It is NOT automatically a jury trial AND the trial judge can set sentencing. So even before 1 minute the Judge says the prosecutor has a "strong" case, OBVIOUSLY he has pre-trial opinion against Zimmerman that he has formally announced.

Overall, it has been SO extreme the judge may be deliberately trying to get himself removed.
 
Why? was it revealed it wasn't GZ who reported only blacks after moving there in 2009?

The topic of this thread is should the judge of the GZ case recuse himself from the case?

1. Every message you've posted on this thread is so totally off-topic it appears you are determined to try to derail it.
2. It is fact that in the 8+ years of GZ calling the police - less than 1 time ever 2 months, he did NOT only call about African-Americans
3. Whether he did or not is absolutely irrelevant to the issue of guilt for murder or manslaughter.

Finally, the PROSECUTOR just released materials - material the prosecutor had no obligation to release, that the FBI, the police, every relative, every friend and every person who knew Zimmerman lead the FBI to formally declare that George Zimmerman isn't a racist - of course making those FBI agents and witnesses all defense witnesses.

So YOU LOSE! on your derailingly raging the falsity that GZ only called the police on African-Americans claiming GZ is a racist.

The officers who swore to "profiling" under oath efffective withdrew it saying they had no evidence and thought the other one said that to the affidavit drafted actually by the prosecutor. And, amazingly, the prosecutor even released evidence and a police witness that they were pressed into making a complaint they didn't want to make and didn't think there was a case.

But back ON topic, the judge sucks and needed to be removed. He's painting himself into a political corner, and realizing his playing his typical hardnosed death-penalty judge role he always plays is exactly WRONG in this case. I suspect he's "figuring that out" as Republican officials increasingly threaten him with political destruction. Off record of course.

(Am I getting pretty good a predicting the evolution of this case or what? It just MIGHT have to do with this is happening in my backyard and political, LEO and prosecution insiders are in my life - a couple even in my house and 1 in my bed.)


The judge gotta go and it was only hours before that release I had posted here of the precise Republican political pressure being put on him and those around him for him to change his direction on the case or get off of it - or write off his political future as a Republican elected judge.

This is FLORIDA, the swamp land selling state where cocaine sales are calculated into state and many urban budgets. NOTHING happens on any scale of importance in Florida that is entirely above board - EVER. Its all wheeling and dealing. Always has been. And, ultimately, Florida officials don't give a damn what Washington DC yankee Feds think about anything.
 
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Judge Lester is a good judge and an all around good guy.... Read up on Meet Judge Lester.
 
The topic of this thread is should the judge of the GZ case recuse himself from the case?

1. Every message you've posted on this thread is so totally off-topic it appears you are determined to try to derail it.
2. It is fact that in the 8+ years of GZ calling the police - less than 1 time ever 2 months, he did NOT only call about African-Americans
3. Whether he did or not is absolutely irrelevant to the issue of guilt for murder or manslaughter.

Finally, the PROSECUTOR just released materials - material the prosecutor had no obligation to release, that the FBI, the police, every relative, every friend and every person who knew Zimmerman lead the FBI to formally declare that George Zimmerman isn't a racist - of course making those FBI agents and witnesses all defense witnesses.

So YOU LOSE! on your derailingly raging the falsity that GZ only called the police on African-Americans claiming GZ is a racist.

The officers who swore to "profiling" under oath efffective withdrew it saying they had no evidence and thought the other one said that to the affidavit drafted actually by the prosecutor. And, amazingly, the prosecutor even released evidence and a police witness that they were pressed into making a complaint they didn't want to make and didn't think there was a case.

But back ON topic, the judge sucks and needed to be removed. He's painting himself into a political corner, and realizing his playing his typical hardnosed death-penalty judge role he always plays is exactly WRONG in this case. I suspect he's "figuring that out" as Republican officials increasingly threaten him with political destruction. Off record of course.

(Am I getting pretty good a predicting the evolution of this case or what? It just MIGHT have to do with this is happening in my backyard and political, LEO and prosecution insiders are in my life - a couple even in my house and 1 in my bed.)


The judge gotta go and it was only hours before that release I had posted here of the precise Republican political pressure being put on him and those around him for him to change his direction on the case or get off of it - or write off his political future as a Republican elected judge.

This is FLORIDA, the swamp land selling state where cocaine sales are calculated into state and many urban budgets. NOTHING happens on any scale of importance in Florida that is entirely above board - EVER. Its all wheeling and dealing. Always has been. And, ultimately, Florida officials don't give a damn what Washington DC yankee Feds think about anything.

Every post I have made has been off topic? Really? Here is my first post:

"Rotfl!!! Lester's performance has been exceptional and this is nothing but a smokescreen because Omara knows he has no chance of convincing Lester GZ can be a credible witness. Omara has made the most disparaging remarks about his own client by admitting he lied, giving an ignorant excuse, and saying be can be trusted "most" of the time.

This move is not a surprise and he will never win on this at all.

Part of Lester's required job was to assess the strength of the evidence against GZ.

This is so dam funny!!! Lester gave him bail twice when he didn't have to even after GZ lied but Lester is biased against him......Omara is sinking fast and is looking for a way out of this case."

You made a completely false claim and it is hilarious another GZ liked it. You guys don't care about facts and just say whatever with no regard for honesty.
 
Now THAT'S racist. Shame on you.



I don't know....I'm not sure he doesn't have a point. The judge did comment that the State had a strong case against GZ. I'm not at all sure he should have done that. It is not his job to evaluate and comment on the strength of the evidence. At least I don't think it is -- either before or during the trial.

The judge is required by law to assess the strength of the evidence against a defendant for bail considerations. That is why Lester asked at the first bond hearing the distance between GZ and TM when the gun was fired.

Now that you know the judge followed the law, do you have another reason to show he is biased against GZ?
 
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The judge is required by law to assess the strength of the evidence against a defendant for bail considerations. That is why Lester asked at the first bond hearing the distance between GZ and TM when the gun was fired.

It won't matter if Judge Lester is replaced.. The next judge in line is a woman and she won't like GZ either.
 
Did he see a white individual walking slowly in the rain looking in/at houses? Maybe you know something we don't.

I know it's ridiculous to think that in a three year period he never saw a white guy walking at 7pm while it was raining. Keep your crap fantasies about him looking in houses since the only source is a proven liar to the court.

You never did find the courage to address the fact GZ knew exactly what street he was on and that he didn't need to exit his vehicle to give directions to his location.
 
Thanks for posting those!

The call links are just quick and easy to access.

I think the reason that OMara is trying to get Judge Lester to step down is because he needs some bold showmanship to get donations moving again.. and a lot of GZ fans were screaming for OMara to be dismissed because he took a week vacation with his family in Colorado.


On April 11, when Zimmerman was charged by a special prosecutor, he drove a rental car to turn himself in Jacksonville, Florida.

Law enforcement agents who retrieved Zimmerman's belongings from the car found a handgun inside and three magazines of ammunition, according to a report.

No evidence Trayvon Martin's killer is racist: FBI interviews | Reuters
 
Did he see a white individual walking slowly in the rain looking in/at houses? Maybe you know something we don't.

Buck.... listen to the phone calls it couldn't be any easier.

George had a thing for the Goons.. and they were probably responsible for all 7 burglaries.. George didn't have to look for strangers.. Burgess lived on his street.
 
It won't matter if Judge Lester is replaced.. The next judge in line is a woman and she won't like GZ either.

I don't think judges have a problem with keep personal feelings out of it and it isn't that Lester likes him or not. Omara knows Lester cannot trust GZ and the only currency he has to win a SYG motion is if the judge believes GZ.

Omara is the only one who has demonstrated a lack of professionalism from asking if GZ can take the stand but not be crossed.
 
I don't think judges have a problem with keep personal feelings out of it and it isn't that Lester likes him or not. Omara knows Lester cannot trust GZ and the only currency he has to win a SYG motion is if the judge believes GZ.

Omara is the only one who has demonstrated a lack of professionalism from asking if GZ can take the stand but not be crossed.

I agree.. point it that Lester really is a fine judge and if he doesn't trust George, no on else will either.
 
I agree.. point it that Lester really is a fine judge and if he doesn't trust George, no on else will either.

Omara also knows he cannot successfully convince this judge as Lester called BS on the reasons Omara gave to try and justify GZ lying to the court.
 
I know it's ridiculous to think that in a three year period he never saw a white guy walking at 7pm while it was raining. Keep your crap fantasies about him looking in houses since the only source is a proven liar to the court.

I've never seen people out walking slowly in the rain with no purpose. Most people that get caught in the rain are smart enough to try to get out of the rain. Shrug. I guess our expereinces are different.

You never did find the courage to address the fact GZ knew exactly what street he was on and that he didn't need to exit his vehicle to give directions to his location.


I have no idea what you are even talking about. PM me a link to that post and i'll address it.
 
I've never seen people out walking slowly in the rain with no purpose. Most people that get caught in the rain are smart enough to try to get out of the rain. Shrug. I guess our expereinces are different.




I have no idea what you are even talking about. PM me a link to that post and i'll address it.

How long have you been patroling your neighborhood? Your personal experience means squat in the face of common sense. First, we dont know if he was walking slowly or not. Second, it is beyond absurd to claim he never saw a white guy walking at 7pm just after it started raining in a place that is majority white.
 
How long have you been patroling your neighborhood? Your personal experience means squat in the face of common sense. First, we dont know if he was walking slowly or not.

We actually do, because had he not been walking slowly he would have been home long before Z passed him in his vehicle. We also have Z's words which describe him as walkig slowly. If you can disprove them, please do.

Second, it is beyond absurd to claim he never saw a white guy walking at 7pm just after it started raining in a place that is majority white.

You simply declaring something doesn't make it true. People typically do not walk slowly in the rain with no purpose. This will be almost everyone's experience, including withness 11 who stated it was weird anyone was even out there due to the rain.

You have managed to turn this conversation dumb too, though. Fur claims everyone is out there walking slowly in the rain. It's just so common, that Z must have seen it millions of times. Give me a break.
 
The judge gotta go and it was only hours before that release I had posted here of the precise Republican political pressure being put on him and those around him for him to change his direction on the case or get off of it - or write off his political future as a Republican elected judge.
But, but I thought it was the nasty Democrats politicising this trial for partisan ends?!
 
We actually do, because had he not been walking slowly he would have been home long before Z passed him in his vehicle. We also have Z's words which describe him as walkig slowly. If you can disprove them, please do.



You simply declaring something doesn't make it true. People typically do not walk slowly in the rain with no purpose. This will be almost everyone's experience, including withness 11 who stated it was weird anyone was even out there due to the rain.

You have managed to turn this conversation dumb too, though. Fur claims everyone is out there walking slowly in the rain. It's just so common, that Z must have seen it millions of times. Give me a break.

Do thieves walk slowly in the rain?
 
Do thieves walk slowly in the rain?

LOLOLOL

Walking and talking in the rain doesn't get innocent people killed, but chasing them with a gun does.
 
Do thieves walk slowly in the rain?

When they are looking in and at houses? I suspect so. If they don't, I do believe they are much more likely to be walking slowy in the rain then someone that is just trying to get home and out of the rain. However, that really isjust my opinion.
 
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