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Why is the Zimmerman/Martin case such a big deal?

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Step back and take a deep breath and look at the Zim/Mar case objectively with no preconceived notions_

An Hispanic/Jewish-American shoots and kills an African-American__Not much there beyond the 6-oclock news_

But Main Stream Media chose to portray Zim/Mar as a white on black crime and the victim as a saint__Why?

Blacks killing whites isn't all that unusual and rarely gets beyond the local evening news where the crime occurred_

Blacks kill blacks everyday, yet national news and the black community show very little if any concern or outrage_

Zim/Mar definitely doesn't tip the scales on brutality or emotion such as the murder of a child or invalid might do_

If white on black crime was actually a problem, I could understand the national exposure this case has received_

I would assume this was the case that broke the camels back and folks were simply fed up and demanding action_

But this isn't the case at all, in fact we don't even know if the killer is even at fault and won't till after the trial_

The only thing that actually makes the Zim/Mar case unusual is the rarity of a black being murdered by a white_

If this was the motivation for the national coverage devoted to this case you would think the media would play it up_

But instead the media plays up Zim/Mar as being one more of many examples of the racism of Evil White America_

It seems the Main Stream Media devotes a lot of time and resources to sustain racial tension and division in America_

Does the question Why is the Zimmerman/Martin case such a big deal have new meaning?!__Are we being played?!

The real question should be, why is it so important to the Main Stream Media to keep America racially divided?!?!?

Now that's the $64,000 question_
 
It was Obama that personally ratified that the singular most important fact is that Trayvon Martin was African-American and for that reason all his empathy is for him.

It would seem clear enough that if you are not African-American you should vote against him. Absolutely so because, analogously, we are all just n...gers to him.

My children appear the wrong race to be entitled to equal treatment under the law under this president, so despite my opposition to Republicans on their religious right issues, I MUST oppose Obama to try to avoid my children, my wife or others I know being sent to prison for life or executed because they are the wrong race and therefore may not defend themselves against if attacked by someone of the race of legal supremacy.

GZ's response in self defense was actually far MORE reserved that I trained my wife and my adult daughter to do.

This is a complete reversal of past racism to new racism. In the distant past, it was inherently murder for any African-American to kill any white person even in self defense under attack. Now that has completely reverses to it is murder for any non-African-American to kill any African-American, even in self defense under violent attack.

When I ask what is the greater lost rights - equality for gays, freedom from religion and legalized abortion (what Republicans oppose) OR denial of due process, denial of the right to self defense and wrongful conviction, life sentence or death penalty (Obama and the Democrats) because my children and their mother(s) are the wrong race (I am too though I'm not white and my African-American heritage doesn't show nearly as much as my Indigenous American side does), the latter is worse.

Republicans don't want to execute or imprison my children, wife or myself because we are the wrong race therefore disallowed even defending our lives against God's and the President's favored race - which of course is his own (or at least the race he looks like). Not being of African-American slave ancestry, but of African-Arabic slave traders, maybe his genetics calls him to declare other races so inferior they have to agree to be murdered.

It is the choice between two sets of very great evils, Obama and national Democrats are the far greater evil. They are the ultimate evil. Murderous racial bigotry.

When combined with him taking to himself the "legal" power to order anyone secretly assassinated, Obama become the most evil president of the USA probably since Andrew Jackson's genocide and in defiance of the US Supreme Court to do so. But, the history of the USA and politicians picking favored and penalized races isn't new. Rather, no president has done so since at least pre-WWII.
 
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My children appear the wrong race to be entitled to equal treatment under the law under this president, so despite my opposition to Republicans on their religious right issues, I MUST oppose Obama to try to avoid my children, my wife or others I know being sent to prison for life or executed because they are the wrong race and therefore may not defend themselves against if attacked by someone of the race of legal supremacy...

...This is a complete reversal of past racism to new racism. In the distant past, it was inherently murder for any African-American to kill any white person even in self defense under attack. Now that has completely reverses to it is murder for any non-African-American to kill any African-American, even in self defense under violent attack....

...Republicans don't want to execute or imprison my children, wife or myself because we are the wrong race therefore disallowed even defending our lives against God's and the President's favored race - which of course is his own (or at least the race he looks like). Not being of African-American slave ancestry, but of African-Arabic slave traders, maybe his genetics calls him to declare other races so inferior they have to agree to be murdered....

...It is the choice between two sets of very great evils, Obama and national Democrats are the far greater evil. They are the ultimate evil. Murderous racial bigotry.....

this is one of the most racist & offensive posts I have EVER seen on this forum, and is totally analogous to something that would be written by someone on Stormfront or any other White Supremacist or Neo-Nazi website.

wow. just wow.
 
this is one of the most racist & offensive posts I have EVER seen on this forum, and is totally analogous to something that would be written by someone on Stormfront or any other White Supremacist or Neo-Nazi website.

wow. just wow.

No its not. I'm not white. I'm not African-American. I'm not Latino. In did not grow up in modern USA culture or in a partisan culture. So I get to point out all the political BS and, in a sense, get to tell all of you FU! in your presumptions.

You have declared the incident, the decisions of local government and the motives to be racism in dozens and dozens of messages using your Demi Demo gods. You race-bait and rage racism continually.

So your acting outraged is just pointless nor am I stating anything I have not always stated. I do not believe any president since Andrew Jackson has made as racist statement as did President Obama and the campaigning of Democrats on this case is a study in grotesque racism. I do not have to wink and smile at racism towards my children, not even a little. Political correctness has no relevancy to my past or my life.

I see Obama and the Democrats as the new KKK and new Stormfront, people who seek power and profit and status by exponding bigotry, racial divide and hatred. F..k em.
 
This thread is racially divisive by the authors own metric. All EMR is not heat, and this thread shines no light. Posit the OP author addressing the media frenzy surrounding Simpson and a "rush to judgment" accusation by the defense. What side would the author be on?

The agenda here is "pro white person" and fear that media does not reflect the author's bias. The percentage of the threads by this thread author which are racially charged far, far, far exceed the percentage of the stories by the MSM which are racially charged. So, what is the real agenda here?
 
...The agenda here is "pro white person" and fear that media does not reflect the author's bias. The percentage of the threads by this thread author which are racially charged far, far, far exceed the percentage of the stories by the MSM which are racially charged. So, what is the real agenda here?

I think we all know.
 
...No its not. I'm not white. I'm not African-American. I'm not Latino...

it doesn't matter, as your feigned outrage over supposed racism is EXACTLY what a Neo-Nazi or Klansman would argue, and surely are at this very moment.
 
this is one of the most racist & offensive posts I have EVER seen on this forum, and is totally analogous to something that would be written by someone on Stormfront or any other White Supremacist or Neo-Nazi website.

wow. just wow.

Obama and Holder have demonstrated that racial pandering gets votes, lots of them

Instead seeking to calm the issue, both Obama and Holder engage in blatant racial pandering
 
this is one of the most racist & offensive posts I have EVER seen on this forum, and is totally analogous to something that would be written by someone on Stormfront or any other White Supremacist or Neo-Nazi website.

wow. just wow.
I can't imagine a single racial opinion which might conflict with yours that you wouldn't consider "racist & offensive"_

The truth is, for whatever reason you just don't like white people Thunder__But the most disturbing aspect of your type of racism is that it is socially accepted_

And until all racism is equally condemned, this nation will remain divided and life will continue as usual with the only hope being that things don't get worse_

Your greatest danger is that you will keep pushing until someone finally says "enough" and pushes back_
 
it doesn't matter, as your feigned outrage over supposed racism is EXACTLY what a Neo-Nazi or Klansman would argue, and surely are at this very moment.

Are there really this many racists or is every last one of them online posting 24/7/365? :3oops:
 
I can't imagine a single racial opinion which might conflict with yours that you wouldn't consider "racist & offensive"_

The truth is, for whatever reason you just don't like white people Thunder__But the most disturbing aspect of your type of racism is that it is socially accepted_

And until all racism is equally condemned, this nation will remain divided and life will continue as usual with the only hope being that things don't get worse_

Your greatest danger is that you will keep pushing until someone finally says "enough" and pushes back_

Ohhhh scary. Hey, you will let us know when the black lynch mobs hit the streets like the white hoods did, or like Zimmerman did. Your beliefs are simple bass ackwards reactionary bigotry, add a bit of zealot's pathology.
 
excuse me?????????????

what gives you the right to launch such a bull**** & dishonest attack against me??????????????????

Here is where I have to bite my tongue...
 
Obama and Holder have demonstrated that racial pandering gets votes, lots of them

Instead seeking to calm the issue, both Obama and Holder engage in blatant racial pandering
I disagree__I believe the voters you are referring to are already loyal supporters of Obama and Holder_

The only thing they're doing is singing to the choir__In my opinion, this drives undecided voters away_
 
I voted Republican in every election until Bush the younger's second term. I reregistered as Independent and I will not go back until the Luddite, reactionary racist Christians of the Palin ilk, intelligent design retards, and immigrant haters are flotsamed and jetsamed from the body politic of the elephant party. The minute Republicans get statesmen back, the intelligentsia I can be proud of, I will come slinking back. There is no way I can be a part of a tent which includes racism and the belief academic achievement is a societal ill.
Idependents have been pushed away by the right wing, and they ain't coming back. The ugly underbelly has been identified.
 
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Ohhhh scary. Hey, you will let us know when the black lynch mobs hit the streets like the white hoods did, or like Zimmerman did. Your beliefs are simple bass ackwards reactionary bigotry, add a bit of zealot's pathology.


I don't recall threats of white race riots if the government doesn't meet demands, do you?
 
I disagree__I believe the voters you are referring to are already loyal supporters of Obama and Holder_

The only thing they're doing is singing to the choir__In my opinion, this drives undecided voters away_


The problem Obama faces is that he has delivered essentially nothing to the African-American community and accordingly there is lack luster support for him, where last time there was dramatic increases in African-American turnout specifically for him. That is the goal of the race baiting. Other than African-Americans, no one cares including independents, one way or the other.
 
This wasn't every crime in America. This was about a black family wanting justice and answers about their son.. Parents are like that regardless of their color.

Step back and take a deep breath and look at the Zim/Mar case objectively with no preconceived notions_

An Hispanic/Jewish-American shoots and kills an African-American__Not much there beyond the 6-oclock news_

But Main Stream Media chose to portray Zim/Mar as a white on black crime and the victim as a saint__Why?

Blacks killing whites isn't all that unusual and rarely gets beyond the local evening news where the crime occurred_

Blacks kill blacks everyday, yet national news and the black community show very little if any concern or outrage_

Zim/Mar definitely doesn't tip the scales on brutality or emotion such as the murder of a child or invalid might do_

If white on black crime was actually a problem, I could understand the national exposure this case has received_

I would assume this was the case that broke the camels back and folks were simply fed up and demanding action_

But this isn't the case at all, in fact we don't even know if the killer is even at fault and won't till after the trial_

The only thing that actually makes the Zim/Mar case unusual is the rarity of a black being murdered by a white_

If this was the motivation for the national coverage devoted to this case you would think the media would play it up_

But instead the media plays up Zim/Mar as being one more of many examples of the racism of Evil White America_

It seems the Main Stream Media devotes a lot of time and resources to sustain racial tension and division in America_

Does the question Why is the Zimmerman/Martin case such a big deal have new meaning?!__Are we being played?!

The real question should be, why is it so important to the Main Stream Media to keep America racially divided?!?!?

Now that's the $64,000 question_
 
This wasn't every crime in America. This was about a black family wanting justice and answers about their son.. Parents are like that regardless of their color.


Yes, and no other African-American families or any other families want justice. Odd, huh, how of the 10,000,000 felony crimes (excluding drug crimes) and the thousands and thousands of murders a year, it is ONLY the otherwise-didnt-give-about-their-son parents of Trayvon Martin who cared.

Why does not one in the entire USA but the Martin's care about the lose of life of one of their children? Why do you say that is?
 
I voted Republican in every election until Bush the younger's second term. I reregistered as Independent and I will not go back until the Luddite, reactionary racist Christians of the Palin ilk, intelligent design retards, and immigrant haters are flotsamed and jetsamed from the body politic of the elephant party. The minute Republicans get statesmen back, the intelligentsia I can be proud of, I will come slinking back. There is no way I can be a part of a tent which includes racism and the belief academic achievement is a societal ill.
Idependents have been pushed away by the right wing, and they ain't coming back. The ugly underbelly has been identified.
I suppose if you say so, but you just don't fit the usual republican/conservative mold or anything remotely close_

Maybe you just thought you were a republican because maybe you don't know much about politics or government_

To tell you the truth Tofoo, you seem to be about as far to the right as Barney Frank__Seriously, no pun intended!
 
it doesn't matter, as your feigned outrage over supposed racism is EXACTLY what a Neo-Nazi or Klansman would argue, and surely are at this very moment.


They argue whatever they argue and I'm certain they are. But it is Obama and Democrats, and this prosecution, giving the ammo and not me.

Weeks ago I pointed out that NW here disbanded over this and has been replaced by guys in 4X4 trucks with Confederate flags, AK47s, sniper rifles and pump shotguns - people I have to professionally confront and deal with. I didn't make that reality.

It was Obama and Democrats making this a racial divide. I understand the political motive. Who knows, it may help Obama politically. But is also going to get a lot of people hurt. All races. That is what racial division does and when the President announces racial division it can be severe, obviously.

Declaring that it is essentially criminal for NW to be armed or engage in self defense also is having devastating effect, and is obliterating local Democrat politicians. That's been front page local news - the disappearance of Democratic local candidates.

In fact this is old Klan territory and the President's race-statement has been very much used by such backwoods and multi-generation folks very persuasively.

GZ never even mentioned TM's race until asked. Democrats and the President should not have made this racial. But they did, so it is. And there would be consequences beyond just the hoped increase in African-American turnout.

Democratic politicians and media talking heads threatening race riots certainly didn't help either. What should white people do when threatened with an African-American race riot? Lock and load - and watch for African-Americans trying to stir up violence of course.

I'm not white and my job means I often have to face those good ole white boys, myself alone, in the back woods, ie woodland swamps. I'm am, obviously, particularly fond of Obama for many reasons now. If I were African-American I would have to resign my job or try to get it changed to avoid a possible kill or be-killed situation. It absolutely is not safe for African-Americans "out there" now.

It took decades to end that danger here. Obama and Democrats brought it back in a month. Trying to get votes out it. Very evil thing to do.

Even if GZ was a cold blooded murderer who ran TM down and shot him cornered in the complex, what Obama and the Democrats did was fundamentally evil and wrong and known. It crossed the line on even marginally acceptable race-baiting.
 
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To be honest... it's not really that big in the media. I read Google News every day and I rarely see anything on it. It's popular on this forum because about 10 people really have divisive opinions about it, but there are some interesting aspects to the case as well. It's not a cut and dry murder, nor is it cut and dry self-defense.
 
To be honest... it's not really that big in the media. I read Google News every day and I rarely see anything on it. It's popular on this forum because about 10 people really have divisive opinions about it, but there are some interesting aspects to the case as well. It's not a cut and dry murder, nor is it cut and dry self-defense.

It's not a cut and dry murder, nor is it cut and dry self-defense

There's reasonable doubt... both ways, eh?

Then Z walks
 
What about NW being disbanded? Where? If you mean the Retreat at Twin Lakes, George was the ONLY person involved in NW.

911 operators always ask for a description so skin color, hair color, clothing, age height and weight are all legit .

They argue whatever they argue and I'm certain they are. But it is Obama and Democrats, and this prosecution, giving the ammo and not me.

Weeks ago I pointed out that NW here disbanded over this and has been replaced by guys in 4X4 trucks with Confederate flags, AK47s, sniper rifles and pump shotguns - people I have to professionally confront and deal with. I didn't make that reality.

It was Obama and Democrats making this a racial divide. I understand the political motive. Who knows, it may help Obama politically. But is also going to get a lot of people hurt. All races. That is what racial division does and when the President announces racial division it can be severe, obviously.

Declaring that it is essentially criminal for NW to be armed or engage in self defense also is having devastating effect, and is obliterating local Democrat politicians. That's been front page local news - the disappearance of Democratic local candidates.

In fact this is old Klan territory and the President's race-statement has been very much used by such backwoods and multi-generation folks very persuasively.

GZ never even mentioned TM's race until asked. Democrats and the President should not have made this racial. But they did, so it is. And there would be consequences beyond just the hoped increase in African-American turnout.

Democratic politicians and media talking heads threatening race riots certainly didn't help either. What should white people do when threatened with an African-American race riot? Lock and load - and watch for African-Americans trying to stir up violence of course.

I'm not white and my job means I often have to face those good ole white boys, myself alone, in the back woods, ie woodland swamps. I'm am, obviously, particularly fond of Obama for many reasons now. If I were African-American I would have to resign my job or try to get it changed to avoid a possible kill or be-killed situation. It absolutely is not safe for African-Americans "out there" now.

It took decades to end that danger here. Obama and Democrats brought it back in a month. Trying to get votes out it. Very evil thing to do.

Even if GZ was a cold blooded murderer who ran TM down and shot him cornered in the complex, what Obama and the Democrats did was fundamentally evil and wrong and known. It crossed the line on even marginally acceptable race-baiting.
 
I wish I knew what the big deal was -- excepting that it's an interesting exercise in common, and not-so-common, sense.

Since he's not likely to go to trial until some time next year, I'm thinking we're all going to be pretty sick of it long before we learn the outcome. (Perhaps it'll be resurrected...)
 
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